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Old 11-19-2008, 06:47 AM   #1
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Manny of the games i bought at great expense are inferior to the PS2 earlier versions ,not only in terms of story line and game play but even in terms of graphics and small maps .

So tell us what games (u think ) are REALLY next gen ?

unfortunately these are few .

NEXT GEN.

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1- UNCHARTED .
2- ASSASSINS CREED .
3- MGS4 .
4- COD4 .
5- HEAVENLY SWORD.
6- GT .
7- RESISTANCE .
8- LAIR .


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Old 11-19-2008, 08:18 AM   #2
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KILLZONE 2
UNCHARTED
GT5P
MGS4
RESISTANCE 2
LAIR
HEAVENLY SWORD
ASSASSINS CREED

In that order, from a technical standpoint. Actually, Lair COULD go above MGS4 (only from a TECHNICAL STANDPOINT). Lair has the most objects on screen...followed by Resistance 2 and Heavenly Sword. Lair has the highest polygon character models.

Killzone 2 has the best lighting model followed by Uncharted (honorable mention for the ray-tracing in GT5P garage @Full 1080p). Killzone 2 and Uncharted tie in textures, but Killzone 2 is texturing more area. Killzone 2 has the best animations closely followed by Uncharted.

MGS4 has the best character modeling. Getting sleepy...cutting this short here.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:28 AM   #3
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:37 AM   #4
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As far as I'm concerned only those that are true 1080p. 720 equivalent resolution has been achievable on PC games for years and years, so I can't classify anything 720p as next gen.

Of the games I personally have, I'd only classify MGS4
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:41 AM   #5
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Manny of the games i bought at great expense are inferior to the PS2 earlier versions ,not only in terms of story line and game play but even in terms of graphics and small maps .

So tell us what games (u think ) are REALLY next gen ?

unfortunately these are few .

NEXT GEN.

----------
1- UNCHARTED .
2- ASSASSINS CREED .
3- MGS4 .
4- COD4 .
5- HEAVENLY SWORD.
6- GT .
7- RESISTANCE .
8- LAIR .


feel free to REVISE whenever needed
what games are inferior in your opinion?

to me next gen just means games that are on the next generation of consoles. so that means games developed for the wii, xbox 360, and the ps3.

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Old 11-19-2008, 08:53 AM   #6
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Killzone 2 is possibly the TRUE/BEST next gen game ever, haha
Uncharted
MGS4
LittleBigPlanet
R2
Heavenly Sword

EDIT: I would also like to add Infamous, haha that game looks amazing.

thats all I can really think of, these are the only games that I see that really amaze me and keep me playing my PS3, everything else comes close to being next gen but doesn't really get there.

and no matter what anyone says I still don't believe the Wii is a next gen system, its still last gen.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:59 AM   #7
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wii is the definition of next gen. the wii remote is probably the most innovative thing that has happened to the video game industry.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:34 AM   #8
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what games are inferior in your opinion?

to me next gen just means games that are on the next generation of consoles. so that means games developed for the wii, xbox 360, and the ps3.
to give u an example, i would say that silent hill homecoming ( i love the series of silent hill )needs to load from room to room and when u get out to the town u get a lot less area than u get when you play silent hill 2 .and if you remember at the beginning of silent hill 2 when u are in the bathroom (if u look in the mirror) the graphics of the main character is amazing ,i can still remember how good looking his jacket was .add that to how good looking his female co star looks ( forgot the names )..well, u get my drift

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Old 11-19-2008, 09:45 AM   #9
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KILLZONE 2
Even the beta is more next gen than most games considerd next gen
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:04 AM   #10
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cod4/5, gears 2, mgs4, gta4, bioshock, fallout3.....that's a good start
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:12 AM   #11
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to give u an example, i would say that silent hill homecoming ( i love the series of silent hill )needs to load from room to room and when u get out to the town u get a lot less area than u get when you play silent hill 2 .and if you remember at the beginning of silent hill 2 when u are in the bathroom (if u look in the mirror) the graphics of the main character is amazing ,i can still remember how good looking his jacket was .add that to how good looking his female co star looks ( forgot the names )..well, u get my drift

Yeah, you got that so right. SH2 had a wow factor, at the end of the intro cut scene. It took a bit of time to realise that you had control when looking in the mirror. It was so well done. It definitely felt like the next gen compared with SH1.

I keep thinking of mirror intro every time in SH Homecoming when I look in a mirror and they give a pathetic blurred mess as they are too lazy to properly render the character's reflection. It doesn't wow me. And the clunky environments where you are bumping into stuff and it is moving and bouncing around and getting in the freaking way. It is a great game, but it doesn't feel like next gen. It doesn't even feel like it is superior to SH2.

And yeah, the environment feels so much smaller. Even smaller than SH Origins on the PSP.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:41 PM   #12
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wii is the definition of next gen. the wii remote is probably the most innovative thing that has happened to the video game industry.
Yeah on paper it certainly is, but when you experience how inaccurate the handling can be and what massive amounts of crap games are being rolled out for the wii, I wouldn't say this really is next-gen.

Games like LittleBigPlanet would better fit into this category, thanks to the user created levels. That's a revolution, at least on consoles.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the Wii concept with the new controller but it just doesn't work as well as it should. Maybe the new add-on will increase precision enough for it to become an outstanding controller. Time will tell.

And for me improved graphics are also a very important part of the next-gen...so Wii is already disqualified in my eyes, with the exception of Super Mario Galaxy (aka U R MR GAY).

So my list would be as follows:

- LittleBigPlanet
- Mirror's Edge
- New TEAM ICO game will fit in here as well, that's a fact
- Motorstorm
- Call of Duty 4
- Bioshock
- Gears of War
- Uncharted
- Ratchet

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Old 11-19-2008, 01:50 PM   #13
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As far as I'm concerned only those that are true 1080p. 720 equivalent resolution has been achievable on PC games for years and years, so I can't classify anything 720p as next gen.

Of the games I personally have, I'd only classify MGS4
Metal Gear Solid 4 is not "true 1080p".
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:52 PM   #14
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Okay im going to do something dangerous im going to list games by what they added that did not exist before, and perhaps no longer exists.

Heavenly Sword - After touch
Conflict Denied ops - Advanced Bullet and denting marks
MGS 4 - cinematic and game play innovation
Uncharted - unpixelated and smooth shadows, shirt tucked in and not tucked in.
Haze - Online, Split screen CO op, drop in drop out.
Merc2 - Online co op drop in and drop out with vehicular combat.
Bladestorm - Large epic free form battles with squad tactics.
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Considering gameplay, graphics, and presentation, Mirror's Edge would be the only game I consider Next Gen. All other games continue the same tradition of first person or third person gameplay. Mirror's Edge is actually trying to redefine it. It's a great experiment in gaming.
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I think some of you guys need to go back and play a PS2 game. 95% of the stuff released now is "next-gen".

I was playing MGS 3 (one of the TOP games of Last Gen) the other day, graphics were horrible, gameplay was not that good (if this was released today, it would get SLAMMED), controls sucked. I thought, wow! when i played this first i thought it was the shiznit, but in retrospect, its not that good.

and i love how 2 years into this gens life cycle (you could consider it 3 years), we still call THIS gen, next gen. Maybe when we see some NEXT gen footage we'll stop that.
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:10 PM   #17
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As far as I'm concerned only those that are true 1080p. 720 equivalent resolution has been achievable on PC games for years and years, so I can't classify anything 720p as next gen.

Of the games I personally have, I'd only classify MGS4
It will surprise you to know then, that MGS4 has a native resolution of 768p which is nowhere near 1080p.
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I think some of you guys need to go back and play a PS2 game. 95% of the stuff released now is "next-gen".

I was playing MGS 3 (one of the TOP games of Last Gen) the other day, graphics were horrible, gameplay was not that good (if this was released today, it would get SLAMMED), controls sucked. I thought, wow! when i played this first i thought it was the shiznit, but in retrospect, its not that good.

and i love how 2 years into this gens life cycle (you could consider it 3 years), we still call THIS gen, next gen. Maybe when we see some NEXT gen footage we'll stop that.
I have a strong feeling that next gen, PS4, Xbox 3, are going to get graphics on the level of Crysis. We should get near that towards the end of the PS3s lifetime, close to when PS4 releases.
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I have a strong feeling that next gen, PS4, Xbox 3, are going to get graphics on the level of Crysis. We should get near that towards the end of the PS3s lifetime, close to when PS4 releases.
Personally I would like to see more games use material unique bullet holes decals, and those really interesting 3d decals that conflict did, instead of a the general bullet hole decal which makes me sigh when I see them..

Yes in some games I have spent hours examining the decals for bullet holes and examine if material specific bullet holes were used, very few games do that...
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Manny of the games i bought at great expense are inferior to the PS2 earlier versions ,not only in terms of story line and game play but even in terms of graphics and small maps .

So tell us what games (u think ) are REALLY next gen ?

unfortunately these are few .

NEXT GEN.

----------
1- UNCHARTED .
2- ASSASSINS CREED .
3- MGS4 .
4- COD4 .
5- HEAVENLY SWORD.
6- GT .
7- RESISTANCE .
8- LAIR .


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If your really talking about "Next Gen Game" I would say IMO none of them... unfortunately.
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