I am looking for a new subwoofer - Blu-ray Forum

Canada · 12-12-2008, 08:52 PM

I have a set of Sony speakers that came with 8' subwoofer that does not hit all that deep. I am looking for a new sub that will play a lot deeper. It has to be good for a music (since I smaller speakers that can't reproduce any bass) even though I listen to a whole lot more movies though it.

I as looking at a Velodyne 12 DSP I heared a 12 or a 15 playing the Matrix and I thought it had DTS ( it was just the DVD) sound on the disk. It was by far the best bass reproduction that I had heared out side of the movie theaters.

Can you give me hints as to what I should look for when buying a bass.

Driver_King · 12-12-2008, 09:31 PM

A2-300.

Intamin · 12-12-2008, 11:35 PM

What is your price range and room size? That would be nice info to know before giving a recommendation, but if you want a quality sub that won't break the bank, then Driver's suggestion should suffice.

tbizzle · 12-12-2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver_King

A2-300.

+1, it's all I ever hear being recommended for a nice system, labeled as "the best bang for buck" sub. I'm upgrading to one

JJ · 12-13-2008, 05:33 AM

You're not going to find any better for $350 than the eD a2-300, that's for sure - if you can stretch $600, $700 - there are many other alternatives...

Epik Valor
AV123 MFW15
Martin Logan Dynamo
SVS PC Series
HSU VTF-2/3 Series

Opips2 · 12-13-2008, 06:06 AM

please read, this eD subwoofer is fit in your room.

Dorm room/ Small area/ Bedroom

A2-250
A3-250

Apartment/ Medium area

A2-300
A3-300
A3-300/ upgrade subwoofer

Living room/ Entertainment room/ Large room

A5-350
A7S-450
A7-350

Designated Home Theater Room/Guy Who Doesn't Know When To Stop/ HUGE AREA

A7-450
A7-900
P7-650

Footloose301 · 12-13-2008, 02:59 PM

MFW-15

You wont be disappointed.

blu_world · 12-13-2008, 10:13 PM

hey canada,we can give you lot of choices,but i'd say hear them first before you buy them,i was at the store just going away hearing each and every speaker that there was and im glad i did because what really matters is getting the best you can for yourself..

try not let price limit's hit ya

,its all worth in the long shot.

aramis109 · 12-13-2008, 10:52 PM

Ya know, I'm honestly looking at the Cadence subwoofer for next year. It's not that the eD is bad in any way... it's just Humongosaurus Rex. I'm not huge on the aesthetics of it.

There are a ton of subs out there in that price range. Check out Big Daddy's sub sticky thread.

whippersnapper · 12-15-2008, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opips2

please read, this eD subwoofer is fit in your room.

Dorm room/ Small area/ Bedroom

A2-250
A3-250

Apartment/ Medium area

A2-300
A3-300
A3-300/ upgrade subwoofer

Living room/ Entertainment room/ Large room

A5-350
A7S-450
A7-350

Designated Home Theater Room/Guy Who Doesn't Know When To Stop/ HUGE AREA

A7-450
A7-900
P7-650

What would you consider the square footage or room dimensions for:

"large room"
"medium area"

?

DavidAg02 · 12-15-2008, 05:58 PM

HSU STF-2

Does great with both movies and music for $350.

Carlsberg19 · 01-09-2009, 05:27 PM

I am thinking about getting the A3-250 its only 25 dollars more than the A2-300 and is a 350 watt driver, is their a particular reason alot of you guys are opting for the A2-300 than the A3-250 ?

aramis109 · 01-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Well, it's a 10" driver vs. a 12" and it has a 24" long footprint. You could maybe use it as a coffee table....

jeo393 · 01-09-2009, 05:44 PM

SVS SUB!!!
Proud owner of the 20-39PC+... still happy to this day! Excellent investment, and these guys stand behind their product (3yr warranty!). Extremely well build products. This is the kind of bass you feel in your belly, and it's not cheap and "boomy". Cant speak for the others, since I have not been exposed to them, but this one gets 6 out of 5 stars from me!

Carlsberg19 · 01-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramis109

Well, it's a 10" driver vs. a 12" and it has a 24" long footprint. You could maybe use it as a coffee table....

What do you mean by this

Audiophile_At_Birth · 01-09-2009, 06:01 PM

The 12in. is capable of producing better low freq.

coolmilo · 01-09-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada

I as looking at a Velodyne 12 DSP I heared a 12 or a 15 playing the Matrix and I thought it had DTS ( it was just the DVD) sound on the disk. It was by far the best bass reproduction that I had heared out side of the movie theaters.

Oh Canada...

I have the Velodyne DD 12 (is that the same as Velodyne 12 DSP???) and to be honest the bass was good but not deep. Last weekend my friend and I took some measurements with bass measurement software and made some adjustments to the configuration of my sub. The result is amazing. I have thundering deep bass now. A good test is to play some of the scenes from "War of the Worlds" with only the sub turned on to test the performance of the subwoofer. My subwoofer is at the point now where it shakes my entire house without distortion (but it's on the edge). We were able to get deeper base than my friend’s 15" James subwoofer (and his distorts when hit with hard LFE). I recommend the Velodyne or check out JL Audio.

Carlsberg19 · 01-09-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiophile_At_Birth

The 12in. is capable of producing better low freq.

Ok but the question is, does the benefit of a better LFE outweigh the benefit of a 350 watt driver.

Pirate King · 01-09-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeo393

SVS SUB!!!
Proud owner of the 20-39PC+... still happy to this day! Excellent investment, and these guys stand behind their product (3yr warranty!). Extremely well build products. This is the kind of bass you feel in your belly, and it's not cheap and "boomy". Cant speak for the others, since I have not been exposed to them, but this one gets 6 out of 5 stars from me!

+1 I have the SVS PB13 Ultra You will not find a better sub. But... it is $$$$. And I might add that it is money well spent.

coolmilo · 01-09-2009, 06:48 PM

Below is a brief description of the sections that were adjusted in my sub that made a huge difference. I would recommend that before purchasing a sub to make sure there are similar adjustments available so that owners can tweak their subs as desired. My feeling is Velodyne is too conservative with their default settings.

--------------------------------------------------------

The subsonic filter can be set to roll off below a certain frequency to prevent a subwoofer from trying to reproduce extremely low frequencies that could cause it to distort.

The contour setting is like an additional band of EQ that can be used to boost or attenuate a certain frequency. This could be used to add "excitement" to a movie soundtrack at 40Hz, for example.

The settings for low-pass crossover frequency (adjustable from 15 to 199Hz), polarity, and phase are similar to those found on most subwoofers. However, the SMS-1 has one additional, critical setting that lets the user adjust the slope of the low-pass crossover. This can be set from 6 to 48dB/octave in 6dB steps that allow the user to better match the rolloff of the subwoofer to that of the main speakers.

--------------------------------------------------------

Are there any experts about this stuff on Blu-ray.com???

12-12-2008, 08:52 PM	#1
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	I am looking for a new subwoofer I have a set of Sony speakers that came with 8' subwoofer that does not hit all that deep. I am looking for a new sub that will play a lot deeper. It has to be good for a music (since I smaller speakers that can't reproduce any bass) even though I listen to a whole lot more movies though it. I as looking at a Velodyne 12 DSP I heared a 12 or a 15 playing the Matrix and I thought it had DTS ( it was just the DVD) sound on the disk. It was by far the best bass reproduction that I had heared out side of the movie theaters. Can you give me hints as to what I should look for when buying a bass.

12-12-2008, 11:35 PM	#3
Intamin Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Houston Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:318	What is your price range and room size? That would be nice info to know before giving a recommendation, but if you want a quality sub that won't break the bank, then Driver's suggestion should suffice. Last edited by Intamin; 12-12-2008 at 11:39 PM.

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12-13-2008, 06:06 AM	#6
Opips2 Special Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Edmonton, AB Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:175 Blu-ray reviews:10 Trading Score:1	please read, this eD subwoofer is fit in your room. Dorm room/ Small area/ Bedroom A2-250 A3-250 Apartment/ Medium area A2-300 A3-300 A3-300/ upgrade subwoofer Living room/ Entertainment room/ Large room A5-350 A7S-450 A7-350 Designated Home Theater Room/Guy Who Doesn't Know When To Stop/ HUGE AREA A7-450 A7-900 P7-650

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12-13-2008, 10:13 PM	#8
blu_world Special Member Member since:Nov 2006 Home Theater Gallery:27 Blu-ray reviews:1	hey canada,we can give you lot of choices,but i'd say hear them first before you buy them,i was at the store just going away hearing each and every speaker that there was and im glad i did because what really matters is getting the best you can for yourself.. try not let price limit's hit ya ,its all worth in the long shot.

12-13-2008, 10:52 PM	#9
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Ya know, I'm honestly looking at the Cadence subwoofer for next year. It's not that the eD is bad in any way... it's just Humongosaurus Rex. I'm not huge on the aesthetics of it. There are a ton of subs out there in that price range. Check out Big Daddy's sub sticky thread.

12-15-2008, 05:58 PM	#11
DavidAg02 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Houston, TX Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:46	HSU STF-2 Does great with both movies and music for $350.

01-09-2009, 05:27 PM	#12
Carlsberg19 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Donegal, Ireland Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:58 Blu-ray reviews:7	I am thinking about getting the A3-250 its only 25 dollars more than the A2-300 and is a 350 watt driver, is their a particular reason alot of you guys are opting for the A2-300 than the A3-250 ?

01-09-2009, 05:43 PM	#13
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Well, it's a 10" driver vs. a 12" and it has a 24" long footprint. You could maybe use it as a coffee table....

01-09-2009, 05:44 PM	#14
jeo393 Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Plant City, FL Blu-ray collection:77 Blu-ray reviews:1	SVS SUB!!! Proud owner of the 20-39PC+... still happy to this day! Excellent investment, and these guys stand behind their product (3yr warranty!). Extremely well build products. This is the kind of bass you feel in your belly, and it's not cheap and "boomy". Cant speak for the others, since I have not been exposed to them, but this one gets 6 out of 5 stars from me!

01-09-2009, 06:01 PM	#16
Audiophile_At_Birth Special Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:El Paso, TX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:235 Blu-ray reviews:1	The 12in. is capable of producing better low freq.

01-09-2009, 06:48 PM	#20
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	Below is a brief description of the sections that were adjusted in my sub that made a huge difference. I would recommend that before purchasing a sub to make sure there are similar adjustments available so that owners can tweak their subs as desired. My feeling is Velodyne is too conservative with their default settings. -------------------------------------------------------- The subsonic filter can be set to roll off below a certain frequency to prevent a subwoofer from trying to reproduce extremely low frequencies that could cause it to distort. The contour setting is like an additional band of EQ that can be used to boost or attenuate a certain frequency. This could be used to add "excitement" to a movie soundtrack at 40Hz, for example. The settings for low-pass crossover frequency (adjustable from 15 to 199Hz), polarity, and phase are similar to those found on most subwoofers. However, the SMS-1 has one additional, critical setting that lets the user adjust the slope of the low-pass crossover. This can be set from 6 to 48dB/octave in 6dB steps that allow the user to better match the rolloff of the subwoofer to that of the main speakers. -------------------------------------------------------- Are there any experts about this stuff on Blu-ray.com???

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