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Old 04-10-2007, 12:41 PM   #1
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Cool 200GB games in the future

yep, that's right, i think now that they have finally managed to make a 200GB blu-ray disk, we may see it used on maybe the next PlayStation or the one after.

If i had to take a guess on what sort of specs the next PlayStation has, it would be the next generation of CELL procsessors, a single very powerful GPU or dual GPUs, 2-4 GB of RAM running at 3.2ghz min, 100 GB HDD and be able to play 200GB blu-ray disk games.

That would certainly be some great specs and really get us that one step closer to photo realistic gameplay and absolutely un matched physics processing.

I've heard that PC gaming will always remain king of the hill even if it does slip down a bit, it will always regain it's top spot but in my mind i feel game consoles are where games are best displayed and gives developers a chance to work on one universal hardware spec and really squeese everything the hardware has to offer.

I think although PC games can look great, i always find the simplicity on gaming on a console prefferable and headache free.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:12 PM   #2
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TDK and Sony claim to have 200GB disc's in the lab. Hitachi let their 100GB disc out (on a tight leash) at the CES, so it's more than just words, unlike another format and 51GB. http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...070111/126348/
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:42 PM   #3
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I'm wondering if the gaming world will support this. With most game makers jumping ship and building games for both PS3 and Xbox 360 - that means to me that they won't be making larger games since you can only build them on DVD for Xbox 360 (unless you go multi-disc for Xbox).
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:44 PM   #4
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It's going to be many years before we ever see something like this.

Even the most uber high end PC games are still coming just fine off of 1-2 DVDs, at most.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:50 PM   #5
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I forsee the PS4 having quad core processor's (somehwhere in the range of 4Ghz), 64bit OS, minimum of 4GB RAM, can't even fathom the GPU, and close to a TB of HDD!
Dreaming? Depends on when a PS4 would come out! Two years, definately not, but if it takes more than 5 years for a new PS, then I would definately say these specs are possible.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:10 PM   #6
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I highly doubt it will be called a PS4.

I think Sony will invent an all-new name for that particular machine.

(just a guess, based on my marketing experience).

We had the Sega Genesis... how about the Sony Revelation?

Funnier still, would be an XBox Exodus (as in a mass exodus from Microsoft).
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:27 PM   #7
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I forsee the PS4 having quad core processor's (somehwhere in the range of 4Ghz), 64bit OS, minimum of 4GB RAM, can't even fathom the GPU, and close to a TB of HDD!
Dreaming? Depends on when a PS4 would come out! Two years, definately not, but if it takes more than 5 years for a new PS, then I would definately say these specs are possible.
The PS3 now has the equivalent of something like 9 cores (from the way it splits up processing tasks). The cell processor is a different architecture than a regular dual- or quad-core processor.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:47 PM   #8
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The PS3 now has the equivalent of something like 9 cores (from the way it splits up processing tasks). The cell processor is a different architecture than a regular dual- or quad-core processor.
The ps3's Cell processor is made up of 7 processors. Its basically a Quad core and a Tipple Core processor.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:32 AM   #9
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Cool, I couldn't quite remember the actual number.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:42 AM   #10
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The ps3's Cell processor is made up of 7 processors. Its basically a Quad core and a Tipple Core processor.
Sorry to tell ya but that ain't entirely true, i'm not sure exactly how it works but i'm damn certain it isn't a quad core and a triple core processor. It is actually a bit complicated for me personally to explain what exactly the CELL architechture is but i know it is most certainly not like you described it, if it was the way you described it, it would not have a commercial competitor for at least 5 years.

I'd apprecciate it if anybody with knowledge of the CELL processor gave some info on how it works, how powerful it is compared to lets say a intel core 2 duo or quad core CPU
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TDK and Sony claim to have 200GB disc's in the lab. Hitachi let their 100GB disc out (on a tight leash) at the CES, so it's more than just words, unlike another format and 51GB. http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...070111/126348/
Exactly. Personally, I think we might see 100GB BDs used with things like the entire MGS series on one disc as a collector's edition. I'm thinking maybe in year 5 or 6 of the PS3s lifespan, if they decide to revamp the console (and update the drives) like the PS2 slim. Just thinking out loud.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:13 AM   #12
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TDK and Sony claim to have 200GB disc's in the lab. Hitachi let their 100GB disc out (on a tight leash) at the CES, so it's more than just words, unlike another format and 51GB. http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...070111/126348/
Thanks for that link. It archives the accomplishment of LG-Hitachi at CES, and shows that info card where they propose a 4Kx2K next-next-gen format for the 100/200GB form of BD.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:33 AM   #13
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According to sony, they release a new playstation console every six years so we'll be seeing playstation 4 out by 2012, probably introduced by 2009 or 2010. As for the specs, sony would have to top the cell CPU, a chip with more then 8 cores and something better then the RSX chip. Sony will need more then 2048 MB of RAM. This is 256 MB of RAM for 8 cores in the cell CPU. How do you top a six axis controller? Would I bet any amount of money that plans for the playstation 4 are already in the works? I mean with just talk and not building some kind of prototype console.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:05 AM   #14
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They need to focus on releasing some kick ass games utilizing the advance hardware that it already has. I don't want my $499 to go down the toilet.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:17 AM   #15
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What do you think they're trying to do? Even if they didn't release any games, my PS3 wouldn't be a waste at all. It's an excellent Blu-ray player. If I didn't watch HD movies, it could still be a kick ass Linux machine. So many uses...so little time.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:23 AM   #16
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I like HD movies but I would,ve never spent $500 bucks on any type of movie playback device. Thank god SONY bundle in the blu-ray movie capability, otherwise I've would've waited until stand-alone players were like $80. And I don't need a linux machine, already got a Dell laptop. I just want jaw-dropping, hi-def 1080P games exploiting the the crap out of the CELL processor.

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I'd apprecciate it if anybody with knowledge of the CELL processor gave some info on how it works, how powerful it is compared to lets say a intel core 2 duo or quad core CPU

I found this on the web http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell2_v2.html.
It's a breakdown of the CELL processor.

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Old 04-11-2007, 06:56 AM   #18
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I've read the link before about the cell. I think that the best in ps3 games is still to come with burnout 5 and GTA IV on the way. We need games that use the psp somehow because if sony can link the psp and ps3 in terms of gameplay, I think that both would take gameplay in new directions.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:34 AM   #19
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I've read the link before about the cell. I think that the best in ps3 games is still to come with burnout 5 and GTA IV on the way. We need games that use the psp somehow because if sony can link the psp and ps3 in terms of gameplay, I think that both would take gameplay in new directions.
I agree. They were suppose to have that functionality in F1. The PSP was suppose to have the option to become the rear view mirror. Maybe this can be added later. I know it would force me to buy a PSP.
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i hope to see solid state hard drive on the next gen gaming console soo we have a good stable machine
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