Plasmas - Blu-ray Forum

ThriceBB · 01-21-2009, 12:12 AM

is it true that you have to replace something on plasmas? that they only have so many hours of playback??

what is the big drawback of plasmas if any?!

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 12:24 AM

Replace something on plasmas? no.

usually you replace bulbs on a rear projection tv. But for plasma and lcd, you do not have many problems.

ThriceBB · 01-21-2009, 12:27 AM

oh ok...

well for some reason i thought plasmas burned out after so many hours which is why i always bought lcd. im starting to lean towards plasma now though. are there any major drawbacks to plasma?

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 12:29 AM

plasmas should last anywhere between ~20,000 - ~60,000 hours.

That's many many years of everyday use.

LCD is slightly better, but they both will last a VERY LONG time.

My_Two_Cents · 01-21-2009, 12:37 AM

Where do people come up with this stuff?

To elaborate on what Crack said, today's plasmas will last 60K hours or more (some new Panys are claiming 100K hours) before the picture deteriorates to HALF the original brightness. Do the math. You'll upgrade/replace the set long before you come close to that number.

ThriceBB · 01-21-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Where do people come up with this stuff?

well, someone told me that. they must have been confused with rear projection. this was a long time ago too, probably back when plasmas were the "new" thing. i thought it seemed weird. that is why i asked it on here looking for some "expert" advice.

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Where do people come up with this stuff?

now is that really a nice way to greet someone?

...not everyone knows everything. We ALL learn bit by bit, piece by piece. So its of utmost importance to share what you know with others who don't know any better without patronizing them. That's the only way people can learn.

Strannix136 · 01-21-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceBB

oh ok...

well for some reason i thought plasmas burned out after so many hours which is why i always bought lcd. im starting to lean towards plasma now though. are there any major drawbacks to plasma?

The only drawback to my Pioneer plasma is that after a year and a half, I still can't stop falling in love with it again and again, day after day...

brett_day · 01-21-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

plasmas should last anywhere between ~20,000 - ~60,000 hours.

That's many many years of everyday use.

LCD is slightly better, but they both will last a VERY LONG time.

panny 1080p plasma's are rated at 100,000 hours before reaching half brightness

leave your tv on 24/7 that would equal 11 years before reaching half brightness!

the 720p plasma boast 60,000!

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/16...1080p-plasmas/

My_Two_Cents · 01-21-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

now is that really a nice way to greet someone?

...not everyone knows everything. We ALL learn bit by bit, piece by piece. So its of utmost importance to share what you know with others who don't know any better without patronizing them. That's the only way people can learn.

It may not appear so, but I was not bashing the OP (C'mon, Crack, you know when I do that, and I've been trying to be good these days

). It was a frustrated question, but I knew the OP had to have heard this from somewhere and didn't make it up or anything. His explanation below makes a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by ThriceBB

well, someone told me that. they must have been confused with rear projection. this was a long time ago too, probably back when plasmas were the "new" thing. i thought it seemed weird. that is why i asked it on here looking for some "expert" advice.

OP, if it seemed I was ripping on you for anything, I apologize for the 'tone'. This is a great place to learn all sorts of good stuff about BD, HT, displays, etc. Ask away! Just don't EVER try justifying Monster Cable prices!

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 01:23 AM

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panny 1080p plasma's are rated at 100,000 hours

I think you will find hours of lifespan to be hyper inflated similarly along the lines of : contrast ratio's, watts per channel, RMS etc.

certainly any company can claim anything.

Realistically? ...they're trying to sell you something.

Strannix136 · 01-21-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

This is a great place to learn all sorts of good stuff about BD, HT, displays, etc. Ask away! Just don't EVER try justifying Monster Cable prices!

And never, NEVER, mention BOSE.

brett_day · 01-21-2009, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

I think you will find hours of lifespan to be hyper inflated similarly along the lines of : contrast ratio's, watts per channel, RMS etc.

certainly any company can claim anything.

Realistically? ...they're trying to sell you something.

sure they are, it's all about boosting the specs of their sets compared to the competition, but honestly why would they lie? i am sure that it is true in a controlled enviroment with all the picture settings turned way down, surely it would be possible

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

surely it would be possible

possible, sure.

But for each individual owner? probably not.

Especially those guys who like that one setting in the menu...whats it called again? oh yeah, Torch mode.

brett_day · 01-21-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

possible, sure.

But for each individual owner? probably not.

Especially those guys who like that one setting in the menu...whats it called again? oh yeah, Torch mode.

touche!

My_Two_Cents · 01-21-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

possible, sure.

But for each individual owner? probably not.

Especially those guys who like that one setting in the menu...whats it called again? oh yeah, Torch mode.

Regardless, if you used your set for 8 hours/day:

100,000 hours = 34.2 years
60,000 hours = 20.5 years
40,000 hours = 13.7 years
20,000 hours = 6.8 years

crackinhedz · 01-21-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

100,000 hours = 34.2 years

...I can leave my Panny to my grandchildren in the will.

My_Two_Cents · 01-21-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

...I can leave my Panny to my grandchildren in the will.

By then, we'll be beaming 10800ppp signals directly into our brains!

graf1k · 01-22-2009, 08:30 PM

Figured I'd ask here rather than make a new thread.

So I've been in the market for a new HDTV and originally went with the 46XBR6 and was satisfied with everything but the size so I sent it back. I had planned on going with the 52XBR6 and calling it a day but I've noticed that the Pioneer 5020FD Kuro came down in price to where it's actually less than the 52XBR6 (on Amazon, where I will order from regardless) and so I went and finally saw the Kuro in action and was pretty blown away by the picture. I would have loved to play around with trying different content on each TV but apparently the reps at BB can't be bothered with all that. Anyway, I'm considering it quite heavily but I am a little outside of my comfort zone with plasmas as thus far I've only owned LCDs and generally been quite happy with them. So is there any way in which LCDs have Plasmas beat? Handling of motion, response time, longevity, build quality, playback of SD signals, anything? This is going to be it for me for probably another 2 years and I want to get it right.

Thanks.

kpkelley · 01-22-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by graf1k

So is there any way in which LCDs have Plasmas beat?

Some LCD's cost more

That Kuro is arguably the best tv on the market, nothing to fear.

01-21-2009, 12:12 AM	#1
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01-21-2009, 12:24 AM	#2
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	Replace something on plasmas? no. usually you replace bulbs on a rear projection tv. But for plasma and lcd, you do not have many problems.

01-21-2009, 12:27 AM	#3
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	oh ok... well for some reason i thought plasmas burned out after so many hours which is why i always bought lcd. im starting to lean towards plasma now though. are there any major drawbacks to plasma?

01-21-2009, 12:29 AM	#4
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	plasmas should last anywhere between ~20,000 - ~60,000 hours. That's many many years of everyday use. LCD is slightly better, but they both will last a VERY LONG time.

01-21-2009, 12:37 AM	#5
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	Where do people come up with this stuff? To elaborate on what Crack said, today's plasmas will last 60K hours or more (some new Panys are claiming 100K hours) before the picture deteriorates to HALF the original brightness. Do the math. You'll upgrade/replace the set long before you come close to that number.

01-22-2009, 08:30 PM	#19
graf1k Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:🆇🆇🆇🆇 Trading Score:198	Figured I'd ask here rather than make a new thread. So I've been in the market for a new HDTV and originally went with the 46XBR6 and was satisfied with everything but the size so I sent it back. I had planned on going with the 52XBR6 and calling it a day but I've noticed that the Pioneer 5020FD Kuro came down in price to where it's actually less than the 52XBR6 (on Amazon, where I will order from regardless) and so I went and finally saw the Kuro in action and was pretty blown away by the picture. I would have loved to play around with trying different content on each TV but apparently the reps at BB can't be bothered with all that. Anyway, I'm considering it quite heavily but I am a little outside of my comfort zone with plasmas as thus far I've only owned LCDs and generally been quite happy with them. So is there any way in which LCDs have Plasmas beat? Handling of motion, response time, longevity, build quality, playback of SD signals, anything? This is going to be it for me for probably another 2 years and I want to get it right. Thanks.

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