European player sales till March

[Deciazulado]

http://www.cinemotion.biz/informacion.php?iinfo=148

             Blu-ray HD DVD 

France        671 1473
Germany       538 2897
Italy         354  193
Spain         184  133
Switzerland   141  523
UK            777 2213
Total        2665 7432

Until March. so no PS3 BD launch sales numbers. but of course

Btw how much are those now? 200k? in the UK? 1m in Europe?

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Those numbers, with PS3 sales added, are soooo sad for HD DVD.

[WriteSimply]

Well according to the HD-DVD code, the PS3 is not a BD player. So that means the attach rate for BD is through the roof!

Great news for HD-DVD! It's UCS for them!


fuad

[Helicon]

The numbers are small, but HD-DVD player sales are still 179% higher then Blu-ray. I hope that changes, eventhough we have the PS3.

Not saying that, PS3 does not help movie sales!! But I don't think PS3 owners buy alot of movies, with approx 200.000 PS3 sold in the UK, the movie sales ratio should be something like 98-2 in favor of blu-ray, if they bougth as many movies, as HD-DVD owners.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Helicon

The numbers are small, but HD-DVD player sales are still 179% higher then Blu-ray. I hope that changes, eventhough we have the PS3.

Not saying that, PS3 does not help movie sales!! But I don't think PS3 owners buy alot of movies, with approx 200.000 PS3 sold in the UK, the movie sales ratio should be something like 98-2 in favor of blu-ray, if they bougth as many movies, as HD-DVD owners.

You don't think PS3 owners buy a lot of movies? I am a PS3 owner. Look at my sig line. I think I buy a decent amount of movies. I think you will find that PS3 owners buying movies is quite common.

[Stundra]

Maybe one reason for the disastrous BD-player sales figures is that there is still no player available which supports all BD-features (BD-J, Internetaccess, PIP, HDMI 1.3a) and people are reluctant. It is very strange that although movie sales figures show an increasing overweight of BD, in some countries HD DVD-Player sales still go up..

[Helicon]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

Blu-ray Collection: 167 titles; I think I buy a decent amount of movies.

let's just call it a decent amount I own 11

This goes for UK: What I meant was, that if there are 200.000 potential blu-ray player owners and maybe 4.000 HD-DVD owners, then either are the HD-DVD owners buying alot of movies, or PS3 owners are only buying a small amount or none. If the movie ratio is 70/30.

In US, there has been sold what? 3-4 mio. PS3's, and a total blu-ray movie sale of maybe 1,5 mio. disks. Thats not even close to one movie per PS3 owner. Then think of all the PS3 owners, who's bought 10-20 movies, then its even further away from one movie per PS3 owner. Thats without counting all the stand alone players.

The positive thing is, the big potential customerbase for blu-ray movies.



Besides studying I have a job, at a Hi-Fi chain (scandinaviens largest). Our product manager has told us, that Samsung is not planing on releasing the BD-P1200 in Europe... Anybody knows more about that?

I hope you understand my english