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Old 03-20-2009, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default The Official Premier Acoustic Speakers Thread

Please discuss your Premier Acoustics speakers in this thread. You can include pictures, reviews, or any other comments regarding your speakers.

Manufacturer’s Website: http://www.premieracoustic.com/



Does anyone on this forum have these speakers? I just ordered the PA-8's for a great price and everything I've read on AV reviews sound good. I was considering the polk tsi300's but these PA's were half the price and looked nicer with better stats. After buying the pio 111fd I'm upgrading my home theater system.

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Old 03-20-2009, 05:46 PM   #2
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havent heard anything bad about them. they're talked about on AVS more than they are here though. They might have some better info. Ive personally never listened to any Premier Acoustic speakers. The specs on the ones you got do look alittle better, but i give the edge to the polks in the costemic dept.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:11 PM   #3
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I have a set of the PA-6b and a PA-6c in my set up and can say I am very happy! For the money the premier acoustic and Bic lines of speakers are great values! Music and movie both sound excellent I have a medium size room and am considering getting a set of the Premier Acoustic monitor 4.2 to add in as my surround back speakers! giving me the 6c and b for front stage a Bic H-100 sub and Bic ht- 63 surround! excellent clarity, wonderful sound from all components! you will be happy with PA-8!!!!
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:25 PM   #4
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I have the PA-120 sub. It's a fantastic subwoofer in my opinion- I've yet to have it disappoint me. If their speaker line is similar, you can expect nice sound at a great value.
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I've been reading up on the PA-8F speakers but didn't see good things about Premier Acoustics on Audioholics.com. I'm not sure if I should get some or not.
On AVS and on here there have been good reports and reviews on them.
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Default Premier Acoustic ?

Came across this brand and wanted some input from the members.

Here's what I'm thinking :

Fronts left and Right : Premier Acoustic PA-4.2 Monitors
Center : Premier Acoustic PA-6C Center Channel Speaker
Surrounds : Premier Acoustic PA-4.0 Monitors
Sub: Premier Acoustic PA-120

7.1 system

Thanks for the feedback in advance !
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:52 PM   #7
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Hey I have pa6 C and B for center and fronts paired with BIC h 100 sub and Bic ht 63 surrounds and absolutely love the pa speakers! Excellent for quality and price. I'm thinking of the 4.2 for my rear surrounds in the near future! the only advice I can suggest is make sure the voicing of the 4.2 and pa6c you want for your front sound field will match up well, I decided to go for the pa 6bs for my fronts cause I knew they matched the 6c perfectly!
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:24 AM   #8
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I have the PA-6F system and figured this thread needed some lovin.

As far as looks go, I think these things are simply beautiful. As you can see in my gallery I got the cherry finish. Looks better in my apartment, I think.

As for performance, my current receiver is only 90wpc, so I'm not getting near the sound out of them as I could. Yet. I'm looking into a new receiver soon. And maybe a power amp.

But even with just the speaker upgrade I've noticed improvement in my sound. Especially in the rears. My old rears were puny compared to these.

So once I get some new power I'll let everyone know how they sound.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:32 AM   #9
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Default PA-8F vs Energy C-300 Towers

I currently have all Energy C-series speakers: C 300s fronts, C-C100 center and 4 C-R100 bipole surrounds.

Instead buying one of the expensive Energy 12" subwoofers, I bought dual PA 120 subs to give me a 7.2 HT system. The PA 120s perform exceptionally well at producing clean, tight, deep detailed bass. I am very pleased with them.

So that got me thinking about selling my C-300s and C-C100 speakers and replace them with a pair of PA-8F Towers as fronts, and a PA-8C center. I will keep the Energy C-R100 bipole speakers. Those are definitely keepers.

Any thoughts or comments on why I should or shouldn't make the switch from Energy C-series to Premier Acoustic?
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:32 AM   #10
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I currently have all Energy C-series speakers: C 300s fronts, C-C100 center and 4 C-R100 bipole surrounds.

Instead buying one of the expensive Energy 12" subwoofers, I bought dual PA 120 subs to give me a 7.2 HT system. The PA 120s perform exceptionally well at producing clean, tight, deep detailed bass. I am very pleased with them.

So that got me thinking about selling my C-300s and C-C100 speakers and replace them with a pair of PA-8F Towers as fronts, and a PA-8C center. I will keep the Energy C-R100 bipole speakers. Those are definitely keepers.

Any thoughts or comments on why I should or shouldn't make the switch from Energy C-series to Premier Acoustic?
Rwo,

WOW, I cannot believe what I am reading. I would make sure that you can return the PA speakers if you are not happy with them. I would personally think that if you were gonna upgrade that you may be thinking about the PSB Image line, either the older recently discontinued line or even the new highly touted Image line. For about $700-900 You could also consider the Monitor Audio RS6s, they are a little brighter then the Energys, but they are very dynamic with all frequencies.
http://www.saturdayaudio.com/picture...er_rs_sale.htm
http://www.saturdayaudio.com/picture...07-29-2009.htm

Of course you are open to do what you want, but I don't think the PAs will be better then the Energys, and the RS6 is one of the best speakers I have ever heard. And the PSBs are a little different then our Energys, and you may find their sound new and fun too.

You may even look at the eD(elemental Designs) tower speakers.

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Old 01-30-2010, 07:24 PM   #11
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Hey Callas! Just exploring my options and fishing around for some ideas and alternatives.

Don't worry, I like my Energy Tower Speakers. I'm definitely not going to blind buy a pair of PA 8F Towers.

However, those PA 8F towers have dual 8" woofers and they have that quality look about them. Very attractive speakers. The piston area of those two 8" woofers nearly equals that of a single 12" woofer. I was hoping that someone on the forum who bought those would chime in. I haven't heard anything good nor bad about them, and I can't understand why people are so silent. If they were that bad, I'm sure there would be some negative comments here or somewhere on the web. They are affordable. They're heavy like the PA 120 subs. Those subs are built like a tank, internally well braced, and they even have polyfill already added. The PA 8Fs weight around 50 lbs each. So extrapolating from the performance I get from the PA 120s, I figure those would be equally good performers. But that's just a guess. I'm not going to buy them without some kind of feedback on what I can expect performance wise. Of course it's different with Energy Speakers. If I had the money, I'd buy the RC-70s blindly knowing that Energy products are good.

I wish could spend $800 on the PSB towers. Those are nice too. If I could get those, I would also be able to the Energy RC-70s. Unfortunately, I have other hobbies and interests that share the budget for my HT system and so the funds are spread out rather thin. The PA line is reasonably enough priced for me to upgrade without having to borrow from one interest to pay for another.

BTW, congrats on you new eD sub! Those awesome subs. Great hearing from you again buddy!
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I too would like to hear more about the PA 8F or 6F tower speakers or their matching center and surround speakers. I especially would like to hear about the 8" center that they package in the 5.1 setup.

My parents want me to recommend a system and I think I may recommend the PA 6F system with a second PA-120 and the 8" center instead of 6. They'd be using the system for movies exclusively, and as always going cost-effective here...

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Old 11-01-2010, 02:16 AM   #13
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On Friday, my new PA-8C arrived from overstock.com.

It's a huge center speaker. It's mean and heavy and buillt like a tank. It's rock solid cabinet construction just like my PA 120 subs. The cabinet matches the PA 120 subwoofer's cherry finish and piano black top and bottom.

I got it to replace my Energy C-C100 which unfortunately was not up to the task of providing adequate sound in a large 30 x 20 room with cathedral ceilings. One of it's woofer blew thus making no sound at all. If you push the cone in manually by hand, you can feel and hear the voice coil scraping on the magnet pole. If you buy Energy speakers, I'd recommend buying their highest end products which are for me just way out of my price range.

That's why I went with the PA-8C. It's solidly built just like my subwoofer. The dual 8" woofers has the same piston area as one of my PA 120 subwoofers. The PA-8C sounds so much better than the C-C100. It's better built too. The C-C100 cost me about $275 four years ago. The PA-8C, $235.

I am still breaking it in. I have set it to large in my AVR's bass management during break in. The dialogue is already much tighter, louder, clearly more understandable, than the dialogue I got from the C-C100. My HT shares the same room with the dining room and kitchen. Even when I am making a snack in the kitchen while a movie is playing, I can hear all the dialogue just loud and clear. That never happened with the C-C100. I had to be in the HT area before I could clearly understand the dialogue. This baby just seems to be a dialogue projector. I don't know how else to put it. And I have positioned it horizontally under my 52" LCD screen. If vertically placed on the floor, it's nearly as tall as my C-300 towers. I will probably set it to small after break-in especially since it's teamed up with the C-300 towers which cannot keep up with the PA-8C set to large. Once I buy a pair of PA-8F towers, not sure when depending on how long it takes me to sell my C-300 towers, I will have a timbre match fronts again. However, I really haven't heard any unusual sound effects by not timbre matching so far.

The PA-8C bass is another story. It integrates quite naturally with my dual PA 120 subs. It holds its own too. It's not boomy bass like the C-C100's. I had to plug both ports in the C-C100 to reduce the boominess. The PA-8C bass, otoh, is tight and very musical too.

The PA-8C is a tad brighter in the highs than the Energy C-series speakers. I kind of expected that with the silk dome tweeter which seem to be more oriented toward the highs. The highs are however not overbearing but are clear, natural, and distinct. The highs are dispersed quite well throughout the room.

Here's another thing, I ran YPAO, of course, after adding the center. To my surprise the parametric EQ only corrected the room response for two frequencies: at 200 HZ -1.5 and at 600 Hz +2.0 db. The C-C100 was PEQed at over a dozen frequencies the worse being at 63 Hz where it cut the level -10 db and again -8 db at 100 Hz even with the port plugs in place! At the other end of the sound spectrum, the C-C100s range in the 5000 HZ to 10000 Hz would be corrected for the lack of highs by applying 8000 Hz PEQ +6.0 db. The PA-8C is sitting in the exact same location as the C-C100! I really do like the slightly crisper highs in the center channel though. My wife instantly noticed the difference and she said that was money well spent. Wow, now getting a high WAF is the icing on the cake!

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well congrats Rwo,

I too am selling my Energys, but I am buying Dynaudios. Good luck moving forward. My room is considerably smaller so I don't have the same issues as you.
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well congrats Rwo,

I too am selling my Energys, but I am buying Dynaudios. Good luck moving forward. My room is considerably smaller so I don't have the same issues as you.
Callas, my friend, you are a scholar and a gentlemen! I extent my early Congrats! to you on your getting Dynaudios. I know you'll be happy with them.

Actually, I don't know if its moving forward or not, or if its being plain nuts following my gut instinct or my stubborn Native temperament of making the most out of less. Like John McCain, a white warrior whom I greatly admire and have the utmost respect for, I'm a maverick with a little bit of Crazy Horse in me too. I'll literally walk backward if it gets me there or gets me what I want! And you know the old cliche, no risk no gain! Sadly the people didn't elect him president of the United States of America in 2008 perhaps thinking of him as one would think of a no name speaker like the PA-8C center speaker. It gets the job done just as McCain would have done.

The opera isn't over until the fat lady sings! You'll never know until you've heard it. Well the PA-8C is one fat lady who can really sing. It might be the bane of audiophile forums. But, remember, I'm a maverick. For me it does what it is expected to do. What more could I ask for? A $20,000 audiophile center speaker would certainly get me served a writ of divorce.

Practicality spiced with simplicity and economy is my way of doing things.
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On Friday, my new PA-8C arrived from overstock.com.

It's a huge center speaker. It's mean and heavy and buillt like a tank. It's rock solid cabinet construction just like my PA 120 subs. The cabinet matches the PA 120 subwoofer's cherry finish and piano black top and bottom.

I got it to replace my Energy C-C100 which unfortunately was not up to the task of providing adequate sound in a large 30 x 20 room with cathedral ceilings. One of it's woofer blew thus making no sound at all. If you push the cone in manually by hand, you can feel and hear the voice coil scraping on the magnet pole. If you buy Energy speakers, I'd recommend buying their highest end products which are for me just way out of my price range.

That's why I went with the PA-8C. It's solidly built just like my subwoofer. The dual 8" woofers has the same piston area as one of my PA 120 subwoofers. The PA-8C sounds so much better than the C-C100. It's better built too. The C-C100 cost me about $275 four years ago. The PA-8C, $235.

I am still breaking it in. I have set it to large in my AVR's bass management during break in. The dialogue is already much tighter, louder, clearly more understandable, than the dialogue I got from the C-C100. My HT shares the same room with the dining room and kitchen. Even when I am making a snack in the kitchen while a movie is playing, I can hear all the dialogue just loud and clear. That never happened with the C-C100. I had to be in the HT area before I could clearly understand the dialogue. This baby just seems to be a dialogue projector. I don't know how else to put it. And I have positioned it horizontally under my 52" LCD screen. If vertically placed on the floor, it's nearly as tall as my C-300 towers. I will probably set it to small after break-in especially since it's teamed up with the C-300 towers which cannot keep up with the PA-8C set to large. Once I buy a pair of PA-8F towers, not sure when depending on how long it takes me to sell my C-300 towers, I will have a timbre match fronts again. However, I really haven't heard any unusual sound effects by not timbre matching so far.

The PA-8C bass is another story. It integrates quite naturally with my dual PA 120 subs. It holds its own too. It's not boomy bass like the C-C100's. I had to plug both ports in the C-C100 to reduce the boominess. The PA-8C bass, otoh, is tight and very musical too.

The PA-8C is a tad brighter in the highs than the Energy C-series speakers. I kind of expected that with the silk dome tweeter which seem to be more oriented toward the highs. The highs are however not overbearing but are clear, natural, and distinct. The highs are dispersed quite well throughout the room.

Here's another thing, I ran YPAO, of course, after adding the center. To my surprise the parametric EQ only corrected the room response for two frequencies: at 200 HZ -1.5 and at 600 Hz +2.0 db. The C-C100 was PEQed at over a dozen frequencies the worse being at 63 Hz where it cut the level -10 db and again -8 db at 100 Hz even with the port plugs in place! At the other end of the sound spectrum, the C-C100s range in the 5000 HZ to 10000 Hz would be corrected for the lack of highs by applying 8000 Hz PEQ +6.0 db. The PA-8C is sitting in the exact same location as the C-C100! I really do like the slightly crisper highs in the center channel though. My wife instantly noticed the difference and she said that was money well spent. Wow, now getting a high WAF is the icing on the cake!
EDIT 2010-11-01: I received a tip from someone who suggested to me that one of the woofers in my C-C100 was probably long since damaged thus making it sound so bad. With one woofer out, the other would be filling in for a non active cone, and that alone could have caused the boominess. I have to admit that could very well be the case. The boomier sound would have muffled the dialogue too. He said it's under warranty and should have sent it back to Energy Speakers to get the woofer replaced. Still, I think I made a sound investment in the PA-8C. I got it. I love it. Things happen for a reason. It's time for a change. I am going to get rid of the Energys (I am not parting with my bipoles though!).
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This thread seems to have died some time ago, but I hope there are more users that can provide some help.

I purchased a set of PA-6S bi-pole surrounds from acousticsounddesign and they arrived today. I opened the box to find the copper cones which are the older versions and not the "Titanium" versions shown on PA and ASD's websites.

Does anyone know the differences between the copper and silver cone versions?
Were the driver designs changed (different drivers)?

I know some of the copper cone versions of their front towers did not get the greatest reviews while the titanium silver ones got better reviews. Should I be worried that these copper versions won't perform as well as the titanium ones? Did I get screwed or no need to worry?

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This thread seems to have died some time ago, but I hope there are more users that can provide some help.

I purchased a set of PA-6S bi-pole surrounds from acousticsounddesign and they arrived today. I opened the box to find the copper cones which are the older versions and not the "Titanium" versions shown on PA and ASD's websites.

Does anyone know the differences between the copper and silver cone versions? Were the driver designs changed (different drivers)?

I know some of the copper cone versions of their front towers did not get the greatest reviews while the titanium silver ones got better reviews. Should I be worried that these copper versions won't perform as well as the titanium ones? Did I get screwed or no need to worry?

Thanks.
HERE is their Contact Info - I'd shoot them an email or call them. They have pretty excellent customer service.
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I contacted Acousticsounddesign. They said they would send me the Titanium drivers if I want. So far I said yes and waiting for their reply. Looks promising for a good outcome.
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Hello PA Owners,

If I may please have a few words of wisdom. I am really torn between getting the PA-6C or the PA-8C Center speaker. I am upgrading from an old HTIB, so this will be my first real HT. I will be getting the PA-6F system basically, I just don't know whether I should upgrade the center speaker. Especially for movies like Transformers, I want that deep bass voice to be there. I'm tired of having to turn the volume up and down with my HTIB. My room is small and L-Shaped. The long portion of the L being the Living room, the stub part being our Dining area. Dining Area is about 8x8 or so, maybe 10x10. The living room portion is about 16x13 give or take. We have a TV stand so the TV bulks from the wall about 1 1/2 ft. Viewing distance from main seating position is about 10ft.

What do you guys think? Worth getting the PA-8C, or is room to small, and PA-6C will sound fine.
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