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Old 03-22-2009, 03:38 AM   #1
Clueless In Seattle Clueless In Seattle is offline
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I have a Sony BDP - S350 Blue Ray with the following settings activated:

Audio Output priority - Coaxial/Optical
Audio HDMI - Auto
BD Audio Settings - Mix
Audio ATT - Off
Dolby Digital - Dolby Digital
DTS - DTS
Audio DRC - Wide
Downmix - Dolby Surround

Most of the movies i have work great, however just recently i have ran into 3 that do not. Transporter 3, Mirrors, and Twilight have all given me either no sound, or very low crappy sound. Wierd thing is, it sounds great during the previews and menus and such, then when the movie starts nothing.

However another strange thing is the other languages sound just like normal, but when i switch to english.....nothing. I cant figure this out for the life of me, anyone know what is happening, this is getting very frustrating.

Thanks.
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:42 AM   #2
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It's never just one thing. How is this player connected? Directly to the HDTV or receiver? What kind of receiver? What kind of connection?


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Old 03-22-2009, 03:53 AM   #3
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Make sure you only have one audio output coming from the sony to the receiver. Does your receiver accept HDMI (audio) and accept at least 5.1 PCM. the reason the previews sound good is probably because they are recorded in just dolby digital, not TrueHD, DTS MA or PCM. You need to set your blu-ray settings for DTS and Dolby to the newer formats if possible.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:31 AM   #4
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It's never just one thing. How is this player connected? Directly to the HDTV or receiver? What kind of receiver? What kind of connection?


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My setup is HDMI from the tuner to TV, then HDMI cable from Blue Ray to TV, and Optical Cable from Blue ray to Tuner. My surround sound system is Panasonic SC-PT960.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:37 AM   #5
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your 350 should be set to bitstream if your using optical. what receiver do you have?
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:19 AM   #6
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My setup is HDMI from the tuner to TV, then HDMI cable from Blue Ray to TV, and Optical Cable from Blue ray to Tuner. My surround sound system is Panasonic SC-PT960.
So you've set your setup to Optical input then, correct?

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I have a Sony BDP - S350 Blue Ray with the following settings activated:

Audio HDMI - Auto
This setting leads me to believe that you're having problem with sound coming from your TV instead of your SC-PT960. Is that right?

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Most of the movies i have work great, however just recently i have ran into 3 that do not. Transporter 3, Mirrors, and Twilight have all given me either no sound, or very low crappy sound.
All three movies are in DTS HDMA with no alternative English language track. So if your HDTV does not support DTS (basic), you get no sound.

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Wierd thing is, it sounds great during the previews and menus and such, then when the movie starts nothing.
Most of the time, those previews are in Dolby Digital.

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However another strange thing is the other languages sound just like normal, but when i switch to english.....nothing. I cant figure this out for the life of me, anyone know what is happening, this is getting very frustrating.
See above. Most HDTVs have Dolby Digital decoding because DD is mandatory audio for ATSC HD broadcast.


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Old 03-28-2009, 08:29 PM   #7
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your 350 should be set to bitstream if your using optical. what receiver do you have?
Receiver is a Panasonic SC-PT960.
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:35 PM   #8
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So you've set your setup to Optical input then, correct?

This setting leads me to believe that you're having problem with sound coming from your TV instead of your SC-PT960. Is that right?

All three movies are in DTS HDMA with no alternative English language track. So if your HDTV does not support DTS (basic), you get no sound.

Most of the time, those previews are in Dolby Digital.

See above. Most HDTVs have Dolby Digital decoding because DD is mandatory audio for ATSC HD broadcast.


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Had to ressurect this post, as i went away for a week. Yes it is set to optical input, and Yes i have sound coming out of the TV but none from the tuner. Not sure if my TV supports DTS or not, i bought it last year so it is still fairly new. So if it does not support DTS am i screwed then and just can never buy movies that use this format?

I am pretty clueless when it comes to this stuff so please excuse my ignorance.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:24 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Clueless In Seattle View Post
I have a Sony BDP - S350 Blue Ray with the following settings activated:

Audio Output priority - Coaxial/Optical
Audio HDMI - Auto
BD Audio Settings - Mix
Audio ATT - Off
Dolby Digital - Dolby Digital
DTS - DTS
Audio DRC - Wide
Downmix - Dolby Surround

Most of the movies i have work great, however just recently i have ran into 3 that do not. Transporter 3, Mirrors, and Twilight have all given me either no sound, or very low crappy sound. Wierd thing is, it sounds great during the previews and menus and such, then when the movie starts nothing.

However another strange thing is the other languages sound just like normal, but when i switch to english.....nothing. I cant figure this out for the life of me, anyone know what is happening, this is getting very frustrating.

Thanks.

I have the transporter 3 and have no problems, haven't tried mirrors yet but, i and many others on this site have had problems with twilight. the movie twilight has video and audio issues. sorry that i haven't tried mirrors or i'd let you know if it was a problem child too! if all your other movies play fine with the exception of these 3 then more than likley, it's either the physical discs or it's the encoding on the discs. do all your other movies play correctly?
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:29 PM   #10
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When you say "tuner", what do you mean? Is that your Panasonic SC-PT960?

You say you are connected with HDMI from your BD player to your TV and with optical from your BD player to your receiver. When watching a disc, do you select the video on your TV by choosing a particular HDMI input and do you select your audio separately on your receiver by choosing a specific optical input? That would be the usual approach with the connections you describe.

I think your problem is DTS. On p9 of the manual for the SC-PT960 is says only DD and PCM can be played with the optical connection. It appears the DTS decoder is limited to discs played on the system's own DVD player.

There are a fair number of BD movies that don't have Dolby soundtracks (foreign languages, yes, but not English DD tracks). With those discs, you will have to change the player's optical output for DTS to downmixed PCM. The player will send stereo PCM, which your receiver can handle. Then, you can apply ProLogic in your receiver to create surround sound. It won't be as good as discrete 5.1. But, that's the best you can do with that receiver.

So, your player settings should be:

Audio Outut Priority = Coaxial/Optical
DTS = Downmixed PCM
Dolby Digital = Dolby Digital
Downmix = Dolby Surround

The player will bitstream DD 5.1 to your receiver. It will decode DTS tracks into stereo PCM and send that to your receiver. The Dolby Surround downmix setting will help your receiver's ProLogic decoder create more realistic surround (the kind that was used on VHS in the old days).

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Old 03-28-2009, 10:04 PM   #11
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When you say "tuner", what do you mean? Is that your Panasonic SC-PT960?

You say you are connected with HDMI from your BD player to your TV and with optical from your BD player to your receiver. When watching a disc, do you select the video on your TV by choosing a particular HDMI input and do you select your audio separately on your receiver by choosing a specific optical input? That would be the usual approach with the connections you describe.

I think your problem is DTS. On p9 of the manual for the SC-PT960 is says only DD and PCM can be played with the optical connection. It appears the DTS decoder is limited to discs played on the system's own DVD player.

There are a fair number of BD movies that don't have Dolby soundtracks (foreign languages, yes, but not English DD tracks). With those discs, you will have to change the player's optical output for DTS to downmixed PCM. The player will send stereo PCM, which your receiver can handle. Then, you can apply ProLogic in your receiver to create surround sound. It won't be as good as discrete 5.1. But, that's the best you can do with that receiver.

So, your player settings should be:

Audio Outut Priority = Coaxial/Optical
DTS = Downmixed PCM
Dolby Digital = Dolby Digital
Downmix = Dolby Surround

The player will bitstream DD 5.1 to your receiver. It will decode DTS tracks into stereo PCM and send that to your receiver. The Dolby Surround downmix setting will help your receiver's ProLogic decoder create more realistic surround (the kind that was used on VHS in the old days).
It does appear to be DTS-HD Audio blue rays that do not work. Just purchased Quantum of Solace and all 3 Fast and furious movies, all in DTS and none work. Rechecked the other movies that do notr work, and same thing all DTS, so it appears this must be my problem. I will try changing the setting to what you suggested, and see if i can get audio that way.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:18 PM   #12
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if you just bought the panasonic you might want to try to take it back lol
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