LCD Stuttering Question - Blu-ray Forum

Sgt Barone · 04-03-2009, 01:12 AM

I have a 32" Olivia LCD, and when playing HD, when there is a scene in a movie when the camera pans across an area, the image stutters and there isn't a smooth transition. is there something i could do to fix this? thanks for your imput!

tntkain · 04-03-2009, 01:18 AM

I think the only way to fix that is to buy a better tv

blooded predator · 04-03-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt Barone

I have a 32" Olivia LCD, and when playing HD, when there is a scene in a movie when the camera pans across an area, the image stutters and there isn't a smooth transition. is there something i could do to fix this? thanks for your imput!

i think what you are describing is called film judder

Fors* · 04-03-2009, 12:40 PM

I agree, it is film judder and you would need a new LCD TV with better specs to help eliminate this, or you could go with plasma, as their response times are simply better.

Gimpenstein · 04-03-2009, 12:47 PM

Isn't this something to do with the "Hertz"? I'm pretty sure if you get a new TV with 100hz or more it would improve your viewing experience.

richieb1971 · 04-03-2009, 01:11 PM

Its telecine judder. From horizontal panning (left right or right left). The movie is 24hz at the source causing this. If you put your TV to 100hz or in many cases 120hz, the image is just repeated 4 or 5 times to suit the frequency.

If you have a universal disc, the U starts to do it as it pans across from right to left on the main logo at the start of the movie.

If at some point movies are made at 48hz, it will go some way to rectify the problem. However, at this stage it seems an unlikely thing to do, since storage would be twice as much for the same material.

The other way of course, is to tell the director to stop panning so fast on a horizontal plane.

Sgt Barone · 04-03-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by richieb1971

Its telecine judder. From horizontal panning (left right or right left). The movie is 24hz at the source causing this. If you put your TV to 100hz or in many cases 120hz, the image is just repeated 4 or 5 times to suit the frequency.

If you have a universal disc, the U starts to do it as it pans across from right to left on the main logo at the start of the movie.

If at some point movies are made at 48hz, it will go some way to rectify the problem. However, at this stage it seems an unlikely thing to do, since storage would be twice as much for the same material.

The other way of course, is to tell the director to stop panning so fast on a horizontal plane.

so is there a setting that i can adjust on my TV and/or Blu-ray player to help fix this?

Bluubyu · 04-04-2009, 02:22 AM

Does your tv have auto motion or anything like that?

callas01 · 04-04-2009, 06:15 AM

As stated, it sounds like judder, I would make sure that you have the 24p fps on your blu-ray player turned off, then it should send out the picture at 30p or 60p fps, Problem lies in your TV, some TV's (perhaps Olivea) cannot properly handle the 2:3 pulldown that is required to process the 24p fps, to solve the TV issue you would have to buy a different one, any of the major MFG's tend to handle the 2:3 pulldown very well, such as Samsung, Sharp, LG, Panasonic. Sonys all have a native 24p fps. Or you can get a 120hz tv.

Sgt Barone · 04-04-2009, 11:37 AM

Ok, i just went out and bought a $50 HDMI cord at Gamestop, fired it up, and all the judder's gone! Guess a digital signal's better! thanks guys!

weiland555 · 04-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgt Barone

Ok, i just went out and bought a $50 HDMI cord at Gamestop, fired it up, and all the judder's gone! Guess a digital signal's better! thanks guys!

For real? You found an HDMI cord that removed film judder? Is that even possible?

Fors* · 04-07-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by weiland555

For real? You found an HDMI cord that removed film judder? Is that even possible?

+1.3 ???

weiland555 · 04-07-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

+1.3 ???

I thought ver. 1.3 was just for HD audio? Is there really a difference in these cables?

Fors* · 04-07-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by weiland555

I thought ver. 1.3 was just for HD audio? Is there really a difference in these cables?

It was my poor attempt at humor ( +1 as compared to +1.3 for HDMI cables?)

weiland555 · 04-07-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

It was my poor attempt at humor ( +1 as compared to +1.3 for HDMI cables?)

Ahh...

...gotya...a bit slow on the uptake, I am.

04-03-2009, 01:12 AM	#1
Sgt Barone Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Cleveland, OH Blu-ray collection:32	LCD Stuttering Question I have a 32" Olivia LCD, and when playing HD, when there is a scene in a movie when the camera pans across an area, the image stutters and there isn't a smooth transition. is there something i could do to fix this? thanks for your imput!

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04-03-2009, 01:18 AM	#2
tntkain Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:103 Blu-ray reviews: 2	I think the only way to fix that is to buy a better tv

04-03-2009, 12:40 PM	#4
Fors* Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Pottstown, PA Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:11	I agree, it is film judder and you would need a new LCD TV with better specs to help eliminate this, or you could go with plasma, as their response times are simply better.

04-03-2009, 12:47 PM	#5
Gimpenstein Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Essex, UK Blu-ray collection:97	Isn't this something to do with the "Hertz"? I'm pretty sure if you get a new TV with 100hz or more it would improve your viewing experience.

04-03-2009, 01:11 PM	#6
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	Its telecine judder. From horizontal panning (left right or right left). The movie is 24hz at the source causing this. If you put your TV to 100hz or in many cases 120hz, the image is just repeated 4 or 5 times to suit the frequency. If you have a universal disc, the U starts to do it as it pans across from right to left on the main logo at the start of the movie. If at some point movies are made at 48hz, it will go some way to rectify the problem. However, at this stage it seems an unlikely thing to do, since storage would be twice as much for the same material. The other way of course, is to tell the director to stop panning so fast on a horizontal plane.

04-04-2009, 02:22 AM	#8
Bluubyu Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Scottsdale, Arizona Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:208	Does your tv have auto motion or anything like that?

04-04-2009, 06:15 AM	#9
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	As stated, it sounds like judder, I would make sure that you have the 24p fps on your blu-ray player turned off, then it should send out the picture at 30p or 60p fps, Problem lies in your TV, some TV's (perhaps Olivea) cannot properly handle the 2:3 pulldown that is required to process the 24p fps, to solve the TV issue you would have to buy a different one, any of the major MFG's tend to handle the 2:3 pulldown very well, such as Samsung, Sharp, LG, Panasonic. Sonys all have a native 24p fps. Or you can get a 120hz tv.

04-04-2009, 11:37 AM	#10
Sgt Barone Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Cleveland, OH Blu-ray collection:32	Ok, i just went out and bought a $50 HDMI cord at Gamestop, fired it up, and all the judder's gone! Guess a digital signal's better! thanks guys!

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