Best Blu-ray PQ Codecs? - Blu-ray Forum

mugupo · 04-22-2009, 05:50 PM

VC-1, AVC, or MPEG2?

Rik1138 · 04-22-2009, 06:02 PM

Each one has it's advantages and disadvantages based on the content being encoded and the bitrate you have to play with. Depending on the situation (and the encoding software being used), you can make any of the codecs look better than the other two with the same source.

What people are most likely to do to answer this poll is to think of a movie they think looks good, and assume it's because of the codec...

Rik

Clark Kent · 04-22-2009, 06:02 PM

From my observations it appears the most transparent codec used is AVC at high bitrates (typically 30 MBPS and above).

Monkey · 04-22-2009, 07:58 PM

Hard to say because I had a HD DVD player and they mostly had VC-1 encodes. HD DVD's recieved poor scores in regards to PQ and AQ on average compared to Blu-Ray during the format war. Of course HD DVD's had significantly less bandwidth and space to work with as well.

Canada · 04-22-2009, 08:21 PM

Both VC 1 and AVC are advanced video codecs and there for take up less space than MPEG 2 would to achive the same result.

As long as the VC-1 and AVC transfers are handled correctly they should be able to produce the same quality picture.

Monkey · 04-22-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada

Both VC 1 and AVC are advanced video codecs and there for take up less space than MPEG 2 would to achive the same result.

As long as the VC-1 and AVC transfers are handled correctly they should be able to produce the same quality picture.

But MPEG2 can look just as fanstastic from my experience. Kingdom of Heaven (Mpeg2) for example looks better than most if not all of my HD DVD's

davcole · 04-23-2009, 01:02 PM

I would side on the Advanced codecs. While MPEG2 isn't bad, it does have a different, less detailed look to it over the discs i've seen along with having those mpeg2 anomolies.

I too saw KINGDOM OF HEAVEN and I wasn't that impressed with it especially in comparison to other AVC or even VC1 films i've seen.

Comparing the two codecs, i'd have to say that AVC seems to capture grain structure a bit better. I've also not noticed the amount of banding on AVC that I see at times on VC1.

View Poll Results: Vote for best Bl-ray Picture Codec
VC-1	10	23.81%
AVC	29	69.05%
MPEG2	3	7.14%
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04-22-2009, 05:50 PM	#1
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04-22-2009, 06:02 PM	#2
Rik1138 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:L.A., CA 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:313 DVD collection:128 Digital collection:20 iTunes collection:1528 Trading Score:11	Each one has it's advantages and disadvantages based on the content being encoded and the bitrate you have to play with. Depending on the situation (and the encoding software being used), you can make any of the codecs look better than the other two with the same source. What people are most likely to do to answer this poll is to think of a movie they think looks good, and assume it's because of the codec... Rik

04-22-2009, 06:02 PM	#3
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	From my observations it appears the most transparent codec used is AVC at high bitrates (typically 30 MBPS and above).

04-22-2009, 07:58 PM	#4
Monkey Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:31	Hard to say because I had a HD DVD player and they mostly had VC-1 encodes. HD DVD's recieved poor scores in regards to PQ and AQ on average compared to Blu-Ray during the format war. Of course HD DVD's had significantly less bandwidth and space to work with as well.

04-22-2009, 08:21 PM	#5
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Both VC 1 and AVC are advanced video codecs and there for take up less space than MPEG 2 would to achive the same result. As long as the VC-1 and AVC transfers are handled correctly they should be able to produce the same quality picture.

04-23-2009, 01:02 PM	#7
davcole Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Cincinnati, Oh 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 146 Trading Score:9	I would side on the Advanced codecs. While MPEG2 isn't bad, it does have a different, less detailed look to it over the discs i've seen along with having those mpeg2 anomolies. I too saw KINGDOM OF HEAVEN and I wasn't that impressed with it especially in comparison to other AVC or even VC1 films i've seen. Comparing the two codecs, i'd have to say that AVC seems to capture grain structure a bit better. I've also not noticed the amount of banding on AVC that I see at times on VC1.

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