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Old 05-06-2009, 04:30 PM   #1
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I just purchased the sc-05 yesterday and im a little overwhelmed by all the audio options to choose from. what setting should i be watching blu rays in for lossless audio. i know its linear pcm, but they have thx and plx2 plus thx and pro logic 2x movie. it goes on forever, i just want to know which one im supposed to be using. will this reciever automatically choose whats best? any help would be great!!!
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i did notice there is an "auto surround" button which selects whats best for the particular movie. exaqmple for i am legend it simply displays "PCM" and nothing else. is this right? i am curious about this whole THX thing. does it apply to thx only movies and wouldnt beneficial in a movie like i am legend. again thank you for your help and time.
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I just purchased the vsx-03 yesterday and the guy at BB said if you put it on auto surround that the reciever would pick the right format, kind of idiot proof thank god I get my 03 on the 10th, and right now I'm just using a center and two floor standers so I will be unable to get trueHD sound for now but I'm sure it'll sound nice just the same.
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I just purchased the vsx-03 yesterday and the guy at BB said if you put it on auto surround that the reciever would pick the right format, kind of idiot proof thank god I get my 03 on the 10th, and right now I'm just using a center and two floor standers so I will be unable to get trueHD sound for now but I'm sure it'll sound nice just the same.
i just hit the "display" button on the ps3 and it only states the movie is in "dolby digital 5.1" not true hd. i do not currently have a subwoofer do you think this is why it wont consider the source true hd lossless audio yet?
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i just hit the "display" button on the ps3 and it only states the movie is in "dolby digital 5.1" not true hd. i do not currently have a subwoofer do you think this is why it wont consider the source true hd lossless audio yet?
You need to set your PS3 to LPCM out instead of bitstream. The PS3 won't bitstream TrueHD or Master Audio to the receiver. As far which listening mode: THX modes boast the bass. Other DSPs are your choice. I'd select, Direct (if you have it, or something similar) as it doesn't add extra processing to the sound since the PS3 has already done the decoding.
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You need to set your PS3 to LPCM out instead of bitstream. The PS3 won't bitstream TrueHD or Master Audio to the receiver. As far which listening mode: THX modes boast the bass. Other DSPs are your choice. I'd select, Direct (if you have it, or something similar) as it doesn't add extra processing to the sound since the PS3 has already done the decoding.
it is set to linear pcm and the receiver is displaying it as such. i think it wont deliver me lossless audio cause i do not have a sub hooked up right now. thats my guess anyways.
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it is set to linear pcm and the receiver is displaying it as such. i think it wont deliver me lossless audio cause i do not have a sub hooked up right now. thats my guess anyways.
That should not matter, unless Pioneers have changed...? Did you pick the Lossless track from the movie after pressing 'select' on the PS3 remote?
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That should not matter, unless Pioneers have changed...? Did you pick the Lossless track from the movie after pressing 'select' on the PS3 remote?
ok i just realized that i have to manually choose true hd in the menu of the movie. thanks for the heads up.
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Is it a Warner Brothers movie? Their default audio is dolby digital...press the display button and make sure you have the hd audio selected. If not...select the hd audio. I'm seriously considering the sc-05 for my next receiver.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:39 PM   #10
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And I think it's time to change your sig!
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yes its about time!!! i also bought a new center and towers. gett ing a sub today!!
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yes its about time!!! i also bought a new center and towers. gett ing a sub today!!
Which sub are you looking to get? AND PICS WHEN YOU CAN!!
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Which sub are you looking to get? AND PICS WHEN YOU CAN!!
id like to stay under $300 any suggestions? perhaps the polk psw 110 or psw 111
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id like to stay under $300 any suggestions? perhaps the polk psw 110 or psw 111
Depends on what you're looking for. I'm pretty biased to the eD A2-300 I have because, well it is a pretty amazing sub for the price. And because like you, I once auditioned all the Polk, Klipsch, and other subs I could, and the eD sub out performs them hands down. The eD sub is $350, no sales tax unless you live in Iowa. Time table to get your sub is getting shorter and shorter, because now they're getting close to have stocked inventory rather than custom built to order. You could go that route. The only reason why I suggest that now is because they are raising the price on the A2-300 to $400 in May.

EDIT: There is also free shipping from Elemental Designs.

With that being said, I would stay away from Polk subs. Not that their bad subs by any means, but they have a very high frequency roll off. The roll off for my sub is 18hz. The PSW111 is clear up at 38hz. Don't expect polk subs to dig very deep at all. If I had to give you a suggestion on polk subs, I would try to find a PSW505. For the money, I would suggest the PSW110 to you. But in any regards, there are a lot better subs for the price.

I would look at the different sub threads on this site. Look at the BIC H-100 I believe it is. Look into the Acoustic Audio subs thread, and of course the big players, SVS, eD and HSU subs.
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Do you know what the A.L.C audio format is on the receiver? When I was trying to listen to the different surrounds, it seemed to sound the clearest with that setting. But am I still getting HD audio, or is my receiver altering the sound? Is there a better setup I should be using? Thanks.
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ALC was designed to be used with portable music players. It stands for Auto Level Control (stereo mode). Basically it makes sure that the volume level from one track to the next stays is output at a similar level.

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In the Auto Level control stereo mode (A.L.C), this receiver equalizes playback sound levels if each sound level varies with the music source in a portable audio player.

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Ok. Thanks for clearing that up. Do you have any suggestions on which setting seems to sound best?
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:53 PM   #18
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I own the sc-05 and tried all diffrent setting but the best thing to do is leave it in Auto sorround, this way you know the receiver will choose dtshd or truehd etc to match the disk audio formatt. Just remember when you put in a movie make sure you select the audio set up on the disc so the receiver will match your pick.
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Thanks for the info. After listening again to the different settings, the auto surround seem to sound the best and like you said it will select the correct audio decoding.
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Dang, am I late for this conversation. But I will reiterate that, yes, "Auto-Surround" is your best bet unless you want to mess with Direct. But leave the other options alone for movie watching. I only use Processing for say, television, or for playing old school games through plain ol' RCA white/reds.
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