Non-Pixar Cartoons on BD. Yay or Nay??? - Blu-ray Forum

jaydee808 · 08-23-2009, 03:35 AM

I'm looking to pickup Aladdin and Lion King and know it's not out on BD yet. My question is are cartoons PQ and AQ on BD a lot superior to DVD?

If it is, I'll probably wait for BD even though it may be a while.

Thanks

Kirsty_Mc · 08-23-2009, 03:38 AM

Should be if the cartoon was done on 35mm and the drawing justifies it.

BozQ · 08-23-2009, 03:44 AM

Cel animation can look gorgeous if the transfer is done right.
Just look at The Simpsons Movie.

DeadDog · 08-23-2009, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BozQ

Cel animation can look gorgeous if the transfer is done right.
Just look at The Simpsons Movie.

Yep, also look at Sleeping Beauty, beautiful transfer.

STARSCREAM · 08-23-2009, 03:45 AM

YES. Will blow dvd out.

Jodi · 08-23-2009, 03:51 AM

Absolutely! Especially if the film gets good TLC in the process.

Jodi

sfmarine · 08-23-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadDog

Yep, also look at Sleeping Beauty, beautiful transfer.

Sleeping Beauty is stunning!

DetroitSportsFan · 08-23-2009, 04:06 AM

Pinocchio also looks great.

KilloWertz · 08-23-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Pinocchio also looks great.

You beat me to that one.

Anyways, yes, most animated movies look awesome on BD regardless of what type of animation they are.

UFAlien · 08-23-2009, 06:09 AM

Unless the transfer is a piece of excrement like Gulliver's Travels.

Afrobean · 08-23-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UFAlien

Unless the transfer is a piece of excrement like Gulliver's Travels.

Second.

Also notice that the Dragon Ball Z movies (which are cel animation) are of a poor technical quality as well. Nowhere near as bad as the public domain release of Gulliver's Travels I bet, but, well... they were made from theatrical prints with cue marks plainly visible throughout.

Yeah, if you want cel animation, you better stick to Disney for now. The Simpsons Movie and the Futurama movies look great, but they're animated digitally. I'm not 100% but I'd guess the little bits of modern anime we have are also digital.

Oh! Akira. Akira looks nice and is old enough to be cel animation.

MOONPHASE · 08-23-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

Second.

Also notice that the Dragon Ball Z movies (which are cel animation) are of a poor technical quality as well. Nowhere near as bad as the public domain release of Gulliver's Travels I bet, but, well... they were made from theatrical prints with cue marks plainly visible throughout.

Yeah, if you want cel animation, you better stick to Disney for now. The Simpsons Movie and the Futurama movies look great, but they're animated digitally. I'm not 100% but I'd guess the little bits of modern anime we have are also digital.

Oh! Akira. Akira looks nice and is old enough to be cel animation.

Akira and DBZ are almost the same age

Al_The_Strange · 08-23-2009, 08:45 AM

At the very worst, a cartoon of any sort may look like just an upconverted DVD (which in itself is not bad). I thought that "Paprika" fit into this category, since it looked a bit soft to me.

At the very best, a cartoon will look sharper, cleaner, more colorful, and much more detailed than the DVD counterpart. I was blown away by how great "Sleeping Beauty" looked, and I'm sure that all other Disney films will look equally spectacular when they get around to restoring/releasing them. I was also pleased with the quality of "Pinocchio," "Akira," "The Animatrix," and just about all CGI-animated films.

I'm looking forward to seeing how "Fire and Ice" will look on BD (the darn release date was pushed back...do'h!).

Afrobean · 08-23-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

Akira and DBZ are almost the same age

Yeah... and? The DBZ movies got a transferred from a bad source, so they're not very good, while Bandai actually put some real effort into Akira.

ps actually, Akira is older than the DBZ movies.

Suntory_Times · 08-23-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

Yeah, if you want cel animation, you better stick to Disney for now. The Simpsons Movie and the Futurama movies look great, but they're animated digitally. I'm not 100% but I'd guess the little bits of modern anime we have are also digital.

From memory most of the simpsons was done using cell animation. Or am I mistaken?

bhampton · 08-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Pixar Cartoons?

Anyway... no need to wonder... Everything is better on Blu Ray.

adh56 · 08-23-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bhampton

Pixar Cartoons?

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the name of the thread.

Afrobean · 08-23-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

From memory most of the simpsons was done using cell animation. Or am I mistaken?

The older stuff was, but by the time they got to the movie, it was all digital. Just checked Wikipedia and it says they made the switch to digital in season 14.

MOONPHASE · 08-23-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

Yeah... and? The DBZ movies got a transferred from a bad source, so they're not very good, while Bandai actually put some real effort into Akira.

ps actually, Akira is older than the DBZ movies.

Akira maybe older then the DBZ movies by 1 year since I believe Dead Zone(American title) came out in 1989 in Japan(or was it 1990?) which is also when the DBZ series started but original Dragon Ball started in 1986. The job that was done with the DBZ Blu-rays is Funimation's very own remastering job but however Funimation has the rights now to the Toei remasters for the Dragon Box for DBZ season 1 which keeps the original 4:3 image but yet remastered without cropping the image to add more picture to the sides by making it a 16:9 like Funimation did to the TV series.

BozQ · 08-23-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrobean

Yeah, if you want cel animation, you better stick to Disney for now. The Simpsons Movie and the Futurama movies look great, but they're animated digitally. I'm not 100% but I'd guess the little bits of modern anime we have are also digital.

The Simpsons Movie and Futurama had a lot of digital production, that's for sure.

But perhaps to add on what I was really trying to say, Blu-ray has plenty of potential to offer for traditional animation. Do not underestimate the results just because it was an old production.

08-23-2009, 03:35 AM	#1
jaydee808 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Blu-ray collection:61	Non-Pixar Cartoons on BD. Yay or Nay??? I'm looking to pickup Aladdin and Lion King and know it's not out on BD yet. My question is are cartoons PQ and AQ on BD a lot superior to DVD? If it is, I'll probably wait for BD even though it may be a while. Thanks

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