Nutjob AVSer fishing for FUD...

[Nismobeach]

This is simply pathetic.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=784543

[blitz6speed]

They have nothing left. Such is life.

[Blu-Light]

CES is a hardware show and HD DVD did a much beter job than BD. By using CES as an avenue to make movie announcements indicate that BD has nothing new to tell us from a technology perspective....

Just consider all the hardware announcements made by HD DVD and innovations announcements as opposed to the BD side.

To me BD only has the studio angle right now and they are looking to cash that in. This is such a short term tactic that BD supporters should be concerned. Think for yourself guys. Focusing on releases of titles in a mainly hardware show is a clear sign of weakness. The HD DVD group kept the focus on hardware. To me that shows confidence and a long term perspective on the format battle.

I was hoping that people on this forum would be a little more analytical in seeing beyond PR from both sides....anyway, it is what it is :-(

From our good friend plazman. Boy a couple of the really diehard HD-DVD windbags are really taking this hard and are becoming quite dilusional.

HELLO!!??? The ship sinking fast!

[dialog_gvf]

"Just wait for the players that will come out later this year. And for the 50GB discs."

Sound familiar? They've turned into us (future looking spec junkies). And us into them (movie watchers).

They have nothing else to talk about. It isn't as if there is a big list of movies to look forward to. Or imminent studio neutrality.

As for the hardware of CES. The HD DVD folk are applying an HD DVD hardware pass filter to CES, and then looking at the output and seeing only HD DVD. Remove the filter and the BD hardware included: Sharp, Sony Saphire, Sammy G2 (with XA2 like specs for $200 less), LG (it's not a real HD DVD player) + burner, Pioneer BD-ROM combo, 200GB recordables.

Gary

[blitz6speed]

You forgot the HP External Blu-Ray drive (Shown at CES), and that Dell is now selling Blu-Ray players in their high end PC's (It was in the Dell keynote at CES).

Oh and that Keith Jack from sigma designs on the forum pretty much said chinese blu-ray players are coming as well.

But of course, none of that matters!

[dialog_gvf]

Yes I did forget those. Thanks. It was a heck of a show for BD.

Sigma kicks Broadcom's ass. So, the Sigma's reference design (that already exists) versus whatever MS and Broadcom are cooking up now, will be interesting. Whatever happened to Tom? (Amir wouldn't have silenced another insider, would he? )

Keith is the most trustworthy insider on AVS. I very much respect him, and have for MANY years (Video Demystified book).

Self-proclaimed insider tsd2005 is now saying $199 HD DVD players for next month. I wonder what the colour of the sky is in his world?

[thunderhawk]

It's definately blue-violet.

[blitz6speed]

The more i read the HD-DVD forum, the more i want them to keep at it. I want them to keep spreading bs everywhere, to talk about PORN releases, to say its the year of hd-dvd, and that only movies from universal matter, who cares about fox, disney, sony, mgm, lionsgate, etc.

Any sane person would RUN, not walk, away from people making these comments. Keep at it hd-dvd guys, its you personally who will help blu-ray win the war!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

From our good friend plazman. Boy a couple of the really diehard HD-DVD windbags are really taking this hard and are becoming quite dilusional.

HELLO!!??? The ship sinking fast!

You have to be on pretty strong drugs to come away with anything positive for HD-DVD out of this CES.

Put it to you like this, and sadly, I'm speaking as a Buckeyes fan:

CES 2007 was for Blu-Ray what the national championship game was for the Florida Gators a few nights ago.

'Nuff said!

[sticks]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

They have nothing left. Such is life.

I know , I ran into another rant over there about diodes on ps3 ...really grasping at straws now.lol

[Kierre]

Every attempt made at future proofing seems to be a desparate attempt to get where Blu-Ray is. From huge disc capacity to studio support, to more players than we can track from day to day, etc., etc., they are truly WANNABES. Walk towards the BLU LIGHT!

[Kierre]

Sony officially released their Blu-Ray Player BDP-S1 at the end of November, and not even two months later they have 2 new prototypes already on display. That's hardware right? That's future proofing the media right? This kind of thing makes me mad as hell being Pro-Sony and having the BDP-S1, but it's also another point that reflects the FUD Gentleman's comments as 100% unfounded.

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by Kierre

Sony officially released their Blu-Ray Player BDP-S1 at the end of November, and not even two months later they have 2 new prototypes already on display. That's hardware right? That's future proofing the media right? This kind of thing makes me mad as hell being Pro-Sony and having the BDP-S1, but it's also another point that reflects the FUD Gentleman's comments as 100% unfounded.

I wouldnt be too concerned. One looks like a clone of the panasonic (a great unit, maybe it s a upgraded panasonic with HDMI 1.3, 1080p24 and DTS HD-MA and Dolby TrueHD?) and the other looks like a budget unit.

The S1 is a clone of the pioneer which is a top end unit for sure.

[Nismobeach]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

The more i read the HD-DVD forum, the more i want them to keep at it. I want them to keep spreading bs everywhere, to talk about PORN releases, to say its the year of hd-dvd, and that only movies from universal matter, who cares about fox, disney, sony, mgm, lionsgate, etc.

Any sane person would RUN, not walk, away from people making these comments. Keep at it hd-dvd guys, its you personally who will help blu-ray win the war!

I almost spit out the water I was drinking after reading this post! lol

[Longshot]

Don't worry about lack of 2nd gen player announcements. Jeez, Pioneer still hasn't shipped and people want a 2nd gen?

BD live is mandatory in June. Shortly after that and into CEDIA you will see many new full featured players. That is why I went with the PS3 right now and I will be all over the next gen Pioneer Elite. Can you imagine the next Elite fully featured with all the advanced codecs and full BD live capability. Drool....

[JBlacklow]

Check this post out.

I too noticed the dull/compressed sound with DD+ soundtracks from my 360 add-on.

Amir, has this been acknowledged by Microsoft as a bug?

Also, Thanks to all of the 'insiders" for the time and effort on keeping us updated and answering questions. This thread has become a daily read for me.

Please, please, someone reply "It's not a bug, it's a feature!"

[JBlacklow]

And another MS rep makes false claims to cover for Universal. He's proven wrong by HD DVD's own PRG website in this PDF.

[4K display]

b2bones lays the smackdown on some clueless noob
It's pathetic when an attack on Talkstr8t is left untouched by the mods, fortunately b2b swoops in and hands out some ownage...

Not only that, in the post right before b2bones, some Microsoft meatball says the first 4/5 million PS3 owners are only going to rent a movie, not buy...Hell, he even throws in the 360 crowd too. Then he tops off his brilliance with "considering the response we've had to the HD DVD addon" Warner is probably underestimating sales...Go figure

What an embarrassment, Microsoft has caused just as much damage to HD DVD as they have done in helping it in my view. Geesh.

[Blubaru]

This is too good. They are practically drowning in their own lies right now

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by 4K display

Microsoft meatball says the first 4/5 million PS3 owners are only going to rent a movie, not buy...Hell, he even throws in the 360 crowd too. Then he tops off his brilliance with "considering the response we've had to the HD DVD addon" Warner is probably underestimating sales...Go figure

No worries. It's all great. Consider if it is true:

That's 5 million renters that need to have discs (that stay pristine) versus a few hundred thousand from the Xbox 360 add-on (that get scratched into unreadibility).

What would be the result with the rental companies? These are businesses, right?

The HD DVD fanboys have this vision of endless large numbers of add-on sales. Not going to happen.

Also, people should encourage PS/3 owners to rent BD even if they don't have an HDTV. The quality from BD will be superior to any DVD (less noise, better colour, etc.) they've seen.

Gary