HDCP Discs - Blu-ray Forum

Lee Christie · 08-10-2008, 01:35 PM

My setup is HDCP-compliant so I wont have noticed if my discs are HDCP or not.

I'm just curious, are any Blu-ray discs actually flagged to enforce the use of HDCP yet and if so, is there a list of them online?

arush5268d · 08-10-2008, 01:49 PM

I find myself wondering why you are interested in this?

Lee Christie · 08-10-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by arush5268d

I find myself wondering why you are interested in this?

I'm wondering if it's worth getting a cable to play Blu-rays on my non-HDCP TV, right now I only ever use the PC monitor.

arush5268d · 08-10-2008, 03:22 PM

1080i will be the best that you'll be able to do on a non-HDCP display.

Lee Christie · 08-10-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by arush5268d

1080i will be the best that you'll be able to do on a non-HDCP display.

I don't understand, you're not answering the quesiton as to whether the ICT is in use (on Blu-rays), and from what I've heard if it is, then anything form 720p upwards would downscaled to 480i, not 1080i.

As long as it's an HDMI connection and the ICT is NOT set, it should be able to do 1080p. Which is why I was asking if it's in use yet?

arush5268d · 08-10-2008, 04:52 PM

Yeah, you're right. Disregard my last post....

WriteSimply · 08-10-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Christie

I don't understand, you're not answering the quesiton as to whether the ICT is in use (on Blu-rays)

Nope. You'll know when the sunset clause is evoked when there's an outcry in the media about it.

BDA and the studios are trying to get people to migrate to BD. Evoking it right now will not be wise.

fuad

Lee Christie · 08-10-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Nope. You'll know when the sunset clause is evoked when there's an outcry in the media about it.

BDA and the studios are trying to get people to migrate to BD. Evoking it right now will not be wise.

fuad

Okay, thanks.

JadedRaverLA · 08-10-2008, 09:54 PM

There's sort of a "gentlemen's agreement" not to implement the ICT flag on titles till around 2012. Given that HDCP is about the weakest protection used on Blu-ray discs, I'm not real convinced that it will be universally enabled then (Fox seems likely to use it, though).

Also, just to clarify what the ICT flag will do (for those that don't know), it will limit Blu-ray resolution to 1/4 resolution (960x540p) over analog outputs, and only allow full resolution (1920x1080p) over HDCP protected digital outputs. Since 960x540p isn't an actual resolution used on HDTVs, the player will either need to upscale that resolution or further downsample to 480p for output.

But, yeah, as WriteSimply said, you'll definitely know when and if a studio implements ICT on a major title as there will be an outcry against it. Ironically, the outcry will be mainly from HD DVD "supporters" even though their format had the same protection.

08-10-2008, 01:35 PM	#1
Lee Christie Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	HDCP Discs My setup is HDCP-compliant so I wont have noticed if my discs are HDCP or not. I'm just curious, are any Blu-ray discs actually flagged to enforce the use of HDCP yet and if so, is there a list of them online?

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08-10-2008, 01:49 PM	#2
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	I find myself wondering why you are interested in this?

08-10-2008, 03:22 PM	#4
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	1080i will be the best that you'll be able to do on a non-HDCP display.

08-10-2008, 04:52 PM	#6
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	Yeah, you're right. Disregard my last post....

08-10-2008, 09:54 PM	#9
JadedRaverLA Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	There's sort of a "gentlemen's agreement" not to implement the ICT flag on titles till around 2012. Given that HDCP is about the weakest protection used on Blu-ray discs, I'm not real convinced that it will be universally enabled then (Fox seems likely to use it, though). Also, just to clarify what the ICT flag will do (for those that don't know), it will limit Blu-ray resolution to 1/4 resolution (960x540p) over analog outputs, and only allow full resolution (1920x1080p) over HDCP protected digital outputs. Since 960x540p isn't an actual resolution used on HDTVs, the player will either need to upscale that resolution or further downsample to 480p for output. But, yeah, as WriteSimply said, you'll definitely know when and if a studio implements ICT on a major title as there will be an outcry against it. Ironically, the outcry will be mainly from HD DVD "supporters" even though their format had the same protection.

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