Hdcp - Blu-ray Forum

Beta-guy · 05-10-2008, 02:58 AM

I'm going to get a Blu-ray drive, and MAYBE a video card, but my monitor is not HDCP compliant (atleast I highly doubt it since I think it was made in 2003 or 2002) so I'm wondering how likely am I going to be impacted by HDCP, and how will it effect me if I am not HDCP compliant?

rovex33 · 05-10-2008, 06:39 AM

You can get adaptors to add HDCP to a monitor, such as HDFury. If you use VGA connections only it shouldnt be an issue anyway.

Beta-guy · 05-10-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rovex33

You can get adaptors to add HDCP to a monitor, such as HDFury. If you use VGA connections only it shouldnt be an issue anyway.

How much is HDfury, and where can I purchase it, also is it legal?

prerich · 05-10-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

I'm going to get a Blu-ray drive, and MAYBE a video card, but my monitor is not HDCP compliant (atleast I highly doubt it since I think it was made in 2003 or 2002) so I'm wondering how likely am I going to be impacted by HDCP, and how will it effect me if I am not HDCP compliant?

What kind of monitor do you have and what model?

Beta-guy · 05-10-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by prerich

What kind of monitor do you have and what model?

Sony SDM-HS95P I use DVI for the video card/monitor

un4gvn94538 · 05-10-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

Sony SDM-HS95P I use DVI for the video card/monitor

i did a search and found a thread on another site that someone with your monitor had verified with sony that it is hdcp compliant

Beta-guy · 05-11-2008, 08:44 AM

I bought and installed the Radeon HD 3870 video card and ordered a Blu-ray burner, I'm glad to hear my monitor is verified HDCP compliant is there a test I can do to verify that my entire stup is good for HDCP?

rovex33 · 05-11-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

How much is HDfury, and where can I purchase it, also is it legal?

www.hdfury.com. It is legal yes they arent cheap though, only really worth getting if you have an older expensive HDTV that isnt HDCP enabled. For a PC id use AnyDVD HD.

Lee Christie · 05-12-2008, 12:41 AM

How can a device that takes in HDCP content and outputs unencrypted content be legal? I mean you aren't even allowed to violate DRM in self defence, let alone to make your TV compatible.

HDfury can't be legal, someone could just loop it right back into a capture card.

prerich · 05-12-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

Sony SDM-HS95P I use DVI for the video card/monitor

Your monitor is HDCP what's your video card?
Edit- I see now that you have a new ATI model. You should be good to go. Use the PowerDVD BD tool or the WINDVD advisor tool. Available for free on Cyberlink (powerdvd) or corel's (windvd) sites.

Beta-guy · 05-12-2008, 05:16 AM

I ran the 2 tools recommended they both don't like my OS (Windows XP X64 SP2) both say my display is not compliant with HDCP,and one doesn't like my video card driver even though I'm sure I have the latest driver but I'll try updating tomorrow to sort that out. worse case if my computer isn't HDCP compliant as these 2 tools suggest, will I be able to watch the movies at all, or am I screwed unless I go out and buy a new monitor?

Obiit · 05-12-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

worse case if my computer isn't HDCP compliant as these 2 tools suggest, will I be able to watch the movies at all, or am I screwed unless I go out and buy a new monitor?

AnyDVD HD will sort you out with HDCP problems

Beta-guy · 05-12-2008, 09:31 PM

you know what I thought about it some more, technology like HDCP hurts only the consumer not the pirates (the ones the movies studios are trying to stop) those looking to pirate use tools like the anydvd and HDfury as mentioned above, it's the honest consumers like me, that gets shafted having to spend a small fortune to fix up my computer to get it upto compliance.

Don't get me wrong I would like the piracy stopped but the people who come up with technologies like that don't give enough thought behind this. take WPA first introduced in Windows XP, it's a nice idea, but the real pirates either cracked it, or use the 'corp edition' and the only people that end up having to spend time on the telephone to some guy working at a call center in India is the honest consumer trying to get his OS installed.

HDCP is the same crap the people who are trying to screw over the studios aren't effected it's the consumer.

rovex33 · 05-12-2008, 09:43 PM

The makers of HDfury have an HDCP license, its legal. AnyDVD HD, not so much, but its not definitely illegal, if it were they would have been shut down by now. Its not free, its a commercial piece of software.

Frankly if your hardware is capable of displaying an HD image but is prevented from doing so by DRM even though you have no intention of copying the content, then removing it is fair game. You're not breaking it to pirate it, your breaking it to watch a movie you paid hard earned money for! Why should you buy a new TV or PC component just because of studio and media format developer paranoia.

prerich · 05-13-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

I ran the 2 tools recommended they both don't like my OS (Windows XP X64 SP2) both say my display is not compliant with HDCP,and one doesn't like my video card driver even though I'm sure I have the latest driver but I'll try updating tomorrow to sort that out. worse case if my computer isn't HDCP compliant as these 2 tools suggest, will I be able to watch the movies at all, or am I screwed unless I go out and buy a new monitor?

That's right PowerDVD and WinDVD will not play in a XP 64 bit enviornment. It's the OS thats messing everything up. That means you're running 64 bit drivers for your video card right? Right. I didn't know you where running 64 bit.
Edit - PowerDVD and WinDVD are supposed to run under a 64-bit enviornment but often don't. Many people use the "unmentionable" above and get WinDVD 9 to work. That's your drawback though - its the OS.

Beta-guy · 05-13-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by prerich

That's right PowerDVD and WinDVD will not play in a XP 64 bit enviornment. It's the OS thats messing everything up. That means you're running 64 bit drivers for your video card right? Right. I didn't know you where running 64 bit.
Edit - PowerDVD and WinDVD are supposed to run under a 64-bit enviornment but often don't. Many people use the "unmentionable" above and get WinDVD 9 to work. That's your drawback though - its the OS.

I also have Vista Ultimate X64 but I try not to use it...

jda2631 · 05-13-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Obiit

AnyDVD HD will sort you out with HDCP problems

i love anydvd, that gets my vote as well. its legal and well let you play any hd movie, even if none of your hardware is HDCP Compliant.

Beta-guy · 05-15-2008, 03:36 AM

I thought I'd update anyone here, since I've recieved alot of help, Thanks! I got the Burner today, and I tried it out and sure enough all my concern went away the computer played it well, especially with the 5.1 speakers. the only downside is I'm limited in resolution so I'll have to wait a while and buy a 24" monitor that can do 1080P.

I also HAVE to use Vista to adhere to HDCP, but a minor irritation but still it play BD flawlessly besides, I tried the movie 'The Day After Tomorrow' I figured with BD+, high bitratrate AVC, and DTS MA all being used at once if anything was going to stump my computer that would.

one last question does PowerDVD 7.3 support PiP/BD Live?

Obiit · 05-15-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

I also HAVE to use Vista to adhere to HDCP

Why? XP will quite happily do HDCP.

prerich · 05-15-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

I also have Vista Ultimate X64 but I try not to use it...

Orbit is right Win XP SP2 (now SP3) is HDCP compliant.

05-10-2008, 02:58 AM	#1
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	Hdcp I'm going to get a Blu-ray drive, and MAYBE a video card, but my monitor is not HDCP compliant (atleast I highly doubt it since I think it was made in 2003 or 2002) so I'm wondering how likely am I going to be impacted by HDCP, and how will it effect me if I am not HDCP compliant?

05-10-2008, 06:39 AM	#2
rovex33 Junior Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	You can get adaptors to add HDCP to a monitor, such as HDFury. If you use VGA connections only it shouldnt be an issue anyway. Last edited by WickyWoo; 05-10-2008 at 08:16 PM.

05-12-2008, 12:41 AM	#9
Lee Christie Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	How can a device that takes in HDCP content and outputs unencrypted content be legal? I mean you aren't even allowed to violate DRM in self defence, let alone to make your TV compatible. HDfury can't be legal, someone could just loop it right back into a capture card. Last edited by Lee Christie; 05-12-2008 at 12:44 AM.

05-12-2008, 09:31 PM	#13
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	you know what I thought about it some more, technology like HDCP hurts only the consumer not the pirates (the ones the movies studios are trying to stop) those looking to pirate use tools like the anydvd and HDfury as mentioned above, it's the honest consumers like me, that gets shafted having to spend a small fortune to fix up my computer to get it upto compliance. Don't get me wrong I would like the piracy stopped but the people who come up with technologies like that don't give enough thought behind this. take WPA first introduced in Windows XP, it's a nice idea, but the real pirates either cracked it, or use the 'corp edition' and the only people that end up having to spend time on the telephone to some guy working at a call center in India is the honest consumer trying to get his OS installed. HDCP is the same crap the people who are trying to screw over the studios aren't effected it's the consumer. Last edited by Beta-guy; 05-12-2008 at 09:35 PM.

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05-11-2008, 08:44 AM	#7
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	I bought and installed the Radeon HD 3870 video card and ordered a Blu-ray burner, I'm glad to hear my monitor is verified HDCP compliant is there a test I can do to verify that my entire stup is good for HDCP?

05-12-2008, 05:16 AM	#11
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	I ran the 2 tools recommended they both don't like my OS (Windows XP X64 SP2) both say my display is not compliant with HDCP,and one doesn't like my video card driver even though I'm sure I have the latest driver but I'll try updating tomorrow to sort that out. worse case if my computer isn't HDCP compliant as these 2 tools suggest, will I be able to watch the movies at all, or am I screwed unless I go out and buy a new monitor?

05-12-2008, 09:43 PM	#14
rovex33 Junior Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	The makers of HDfury have an HDCP license, its legal. AnyDVD HD, not so much, but its not definitely illegal, if it were they would have been shut down by now. Its not free, its a commercial piece of software. Frankly if your hardware is capable of displaying an HD image but is prevented from doing so by DRM even though you have no intention of copying the content, then removing it is fair game. You're not breaking it to pirate it, your breaking it to watch a movie you paid hard earned money for! Why should you buy a new TV or PC component just because of studio and media format developer paranoia.

05-15-2008, 03:36 AM	#18
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	I thought I'd update anyone here, since I've recieved alot of help, Thanks! I got the Burner today, and I tried it out and sure enough all my concern went away the computer played it well, especially with the 5.1 speakers. the only downside is I'm limited in resolution so I'll have to wait a while and buy a 24" monitor that can do 1080P. I also HAVE to use Vista to adhere to HDCP, but a minor irritation but still it play BD flawlessly besides, I tried the movie 'The Day After Tomorrow' I figured with BD+, high bitratrate AVC, and DTS MA all being used at once if anything was going to stump my computer that would. one last question does PowerDVD 7.3 support PiP/BD Live?

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