Firmware 2.42 Killed My BD Drive

[Xerious]

It wasn't immediate though. I downloaded it and when on my merry way. Everything seemed to be normal. I played a few games and watch a few movies without a hitch. Then I was showing off Planet Earth and it start to freeze up a bit. I checked my disc to see if it was clean, which it was, because GHIII had issues when it had a little fingerprint on it. Didn't fix the problem. I blew it off as probably a glitch with the FW. Then I got home on Sunday and found Starship Troopers waiting for me. We popped it in and started watching. About 45 minutes into the movie it start to chug and then froze completely. Took out the disc, reinserted... it stopped about the same time and place. Now I was frustrated. The last time this happend was back with FW 1.5 where the audio skipped and it was remedied with a complete HDD restore. This is when the problem really gets exasurbated... because after the backup and restoral process the PS3 quit playing discs entirely... DVDs, BDs, CDs, anything at all. I put a disc in and the loading icon shows up but nothing ese... no pop up, no nothing. I tried every single game I have and a few dozen BDs and DVDs... nothing.

I checked the Official PS forums and people are reporting the same problems or other weird issues, like no HDMI output, or mic issues, but mainly the disc not reading media. Anyone else having issues??? Aside from a dead drive, my PS3 is still running as i can play PSN games and watch PSN movies/shows.

The PS Forum Thread.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...thread.id=6967

The kids there are calling those with problems Xbots and Trolls... ironic.

[Rike255]

It's not the firmware. How would firmware break a BD drive weeks after you install it?
Sounds like the same issue as most people who have problems with their PS3 was...the BD drive diode failed.
Call Sony.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Rike255

It's not the firmware. How would firmware break a BD drive weeks after you install it?
Sounds like the same issue as most people who have problems with their PS3 was...the BD drive diode failed.
Call Sony.

it's wasn't weeks... more like a week. and it was functioning PERFECT prior to this. the FW can change hardware configurations and options... perhaps it's conflicting with something. I called Sony, they said send it in, i have a coffin from before, but managed to to exchange for a new PS3 instead. I'm crossing my fingers it IS a fixable firmware issue... Heroes comes out soon!!!

[Chocolatejas]

Only thing I have noticed it when playing Rockband my screen will skip/jump every once and awhile.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by Xerious

it's wasn't weeks... more like a week. and it was functioning PERFECT prior to this. the FW can change hardware configurations and options... perhaps it's conflicting with something. I called Sony, they said send it in, i have a coffin from before, but managed to to exchange for a new PS3 instead. I'm crossing my fingers it IS a fixable firmware issue... Heroes comes out soon!!!

Weeks or week doesn't matter. I'm saying the fw is not the problem because it wasn't immediate. Your PS3 just broke, timing was a coincidence. Many people have had this problem PRIOR to the firmware update.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Rike255

Weeks or week doesn't matter. I'm saying the fw is not the problem because it wasn't immediate. Your PS3 just broke, timing was a coincidence. Many people have had this problem PRIOR to the firmware update.

and you know this, how? the Sony DID recall 2.40 when it first came out because it was OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED that it was bricking consoles. 360 consoles had a notorious fall update that bricked their systems. Any changes to the BIOS can render whole systems useless... and I don't believe this is just coincidence considering the tract record of the sony products I have owned (save my VAIO which died 1 year after i had it). I couldn't tell it was immediate because it happens to discs after 45mins+ of watching... i had not watched a movie or played a game since I had updated it... so who could tell? as far as I'm concerned, it was immediate.

[BirdManJr]

Originally Posted by Xerious

and you know this, how? the Sony DID recall 2.40 when it first came out because it was OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED that it was bricking consoles. 360 consoles had a notorious fall update that bricked their systems. Any changes to the BIOS can render whole systems useless... and I don't believe this is just coincidence considering the tract record of the sony products I have owned (save my VAIO which died 1 year after i had it). I couldn't tell it was immediate because it happens to discs after 45mins+ of watching... i had not watched a movie or played a game since I had updated it... so who could tell? as far as I'm concerned, it was immediate.

why do i see your name on every firmware bricked my system thread?
how many times has this happend to you?

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by Xerious

and you know this, how? the Sony DID recall 2.40 when it first came out because it was OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED that it was bricking consoles. 360 consoles had a notorious fall update that bricked their systems. Any changes to the BIOS can render whole systems useless... and I don't believe this is just coincidence considering the tract record of the sony products I have owned (save my VAIO which died 1 year after i had it).

Bricked their systems IMMEDIATELY. Not a week after the update. If your install failed for whatever reason and your system firmware was corrupted, it wouldn't work for a week just fine then suddenly break. It woudl break as soon as you install it.
Track record or not, PS3's fail sometimes, this is a classic case of the BD drive failing. It happens sometimes...in fact it happened to me too.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by BirdManJr

why do i see your name on every firmware bricked my system thread?
how many times has this happend to you?

what are you accusing me of? LYING? I think you'd be pissed to if you couldn't play some 200 odd blurays all of a sudden. Makes me want to just get a 350 and be done with it.

to answer your question, ONCE... the last time my PS3 died was because of a power source failure.

[BirdManJr]

Originally Posted by Xerious

what are you accusing me of? LYING? I think you'd be pissed to if you couldn't play some 200 odd blurays all of a sudden. Makes me want to just get a 350 and be done with it.

to answer your question, ONCE... the last time my PS3 died was because of a power source failure.

i'm not accusing you of anything...I just said..when i click on a firmware bricked my system thread...i always see your name.

And if you get a "350" youll just be on there message boards with a similar problem but most likely more often lol....

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Rike255

Bricked their systems IMMEDIATELY. Not a week after the update. If your install failed for whatever reason and your system firmware was corrupted, it wouldn't work for a week just fine then suddenly break. It woudl break as soon as you install it.
Track record or not, PS3's fail sometimes, this is a classic case of the BD drive failing. It happens sometimes...in fact it happened to me too.

there's no point in arguing with someone who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. the point of the post is to see if you have had problems, not to see if it's the firmware or not. if you don't have any issues, then good for you. end of debate.

[X400]

What Rike said.




only problem ive noticed (think its a 2.4 problem tho, cant remember) is large files freeze when fast forwarding and then resuming since one of the updates since 2.4.. but thats easily remedied by pressing O and then starting the file again

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by BirdManJr

i'm not accusing you of anything...I just said..when i click on a firmware bricked my system thread...i always see your name.

And if you get a "350" youll just be on there message boards with a similar problem but most likely more often lol....

it would be more accurate to say bricked my BD drive. my ps3 functions aside from that. and you are correct to say that the 350 may be more of a hassle than it's worth.

and you'd be posting a lot if you were seeking answers... it'd be different if i were like PS3 sucks, SCREW sony, ME TOO ME TOO... i have been pretty throrough with my plight and there's security in numbers knowing i'm not some isolated case.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by Xerious

there's no point in arguing with someone who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. the point of the post is to see if you have had problems, not to see if it's the firmware or not. if you don't have any issues, then good for you. end of debate.

I sure hope you mean you. In any case, don't get mad at me, I'm just telling you what to do. Call Sony.

[BirdManJr]

Your safer with a ps3....just hope you get everything straightened out so you can enjoy it

[X400]

in all fairness Xerious... ur topic is about 2.42 killing your BD drive...

originally posted by Xerious
the point of the post is to see if you have had problems, not to see if it's the firmware or not. if you don't have any issues, then good for you. end of debate.

anyhow, ur issue doesnt sound like a FW issue... if software is going to corrupt something it would be immediate and not gradual.. that would be hardware

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Rike255

I sure hope you mean you. In any case, don't get mad at me, I'm just telling you what to do. Call Sony.

no, not me, you. but that's besides the point. not getting mad at you, but unless you're an engineer or program firmwares for a living, your general experience or wiki based knowledge doesn't quite cut it. it's all good though, we'll see what happens with the next FW update, and if it doesn't fix it, then it's off to Sony. good thing i have 2 PS3s.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by X400

in all fairness Xerious... ur topic is about 2.42 killing your BD drive...






anyhow, ur issue doesnt sound like a FW issue... if software is going to corrupt something it would be immediate and not gradual.. that would be hardware

does anyone even understand what FW is on this board? yes, it's SOFTWARE but it's embedded to the HARDWARE... so unlike your applications SOFTWARE it is programmed to to tell your HARDWARE what to do... this is why sony can add feature sets to the PS3 through updates... when you restore you HDD your firmware, which is stored in the flash memory, is still there. i think people are getting too caught up on the immediate and gradual issue...

the issue was immediately found when playing movies...
it completely FUBARed the system after i backed up and restored the system. not discounting it could be an actual hardware issue though, but it's too convienent to say that... after all, i have a 60 gig with 2.41 PS3 which has no issues whatsoever, and it's older than the 80 gig with the 2.42.

OMG... I didn't think i'd get the same harrassment HERE, of all places.

[jovherye]

So far, so good. Keep's fingers crossed.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by Xerious

does anyone even understand what FW is on this board? yes, it's SOFTWARE but it's embedded to the HARDWARE... so unlike your applications SOFTWARE it is programmed to to tell your HARDWARE what to do... this is why sony can add feature sets to the PS3 through updates... when you restore you HDD your firmware, which is stored in the flash memory, is still there. i think people are getting too caught up on the immediate and gradual issue...

the issue was immediately found when playing movies...
it completely FUBARed the system after i backed up and restored the system.

OMG... I didn't think i'd get the same harrassment HERE, of all places.

Dude, nobody's harassing you. We're trying to explain to you what happened. Yes firmware is low level programming, yes it affects the hardware. We're not arguing that. We're telling you that IF there's an issue with the firmware, your system will not work AS SOON AS you install it. Not a week later. Firmware doesn't just decide when to break your hardware.
This is an OBVIOUS case of the BD drive failing because of the diode. It happens all the time, and had nothing to do with any firmware at all. It's a hardware failure, nothing more.