Merge all WB Complaint Threads - Blu-ray Forum

stockstar1138 · 08-13-2008, 01:17 PM

There are like 3-4 threads on people ranting or discussing WBs Blu-ray quality.

Can we please just make 1 WB thread?

ClaytonMG · 08-13-2008, 03:46 PM

Holy god I was just going to post this. This is absolutely rediculous around here!!!

EvolutionCherry · 08-15-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Holy god I was just going to post this. This is absolutely rediculous around here!!!

I agree but I think that a lot of them forgot that they are the ones who made a big leap in helping out Blu-Ray winning the format war when they went BD exclusive this past January.

iceman · 08-15-2008, 11:52 PM

Link to threads please for faster merge

ClaytonMG · 08-16-2008, 04:16 PM

Alan Gordon · 08-16-2008, 05:37 PM

While I disagree with his constant BITRATE postings, Lgans316 already had a WB complaint thread that got closed, so I'm not sure what the thinking is behinnd creating a mega thread... even though I do support one.

However, I DO disagree with some of Clayton's choices:

First off, the "Do you hate what Warner has done with Justice League?" thread. While the thread title itself has a lot to do with WB, it's not a WB-centric thread as the same complaint regarding the Blu-ray release was had with the DVD release as well... so it's more of a title issue than a studio issue. Perhaps the best idea with this thread would be to MERGE it with this thread from crazybat 07... announcing the title's release...though perhaps the mods can change the date in the title to the US format given that it's a US release. There's even another "Justice League" thread that COULD be merged as well (link).

The coffee book threads might ought to be merged into one thread, but should probably remain seperate as while WB is currently the only studio using this style, it's not really a studio-centric issue.

The Matrix pricing issue thread could be either closed or moved over to the Matrix thread (like the OP expected) or the Blu-ray pricing complaint thread (where did that go?).

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

~Alan

ClaytonMG · 08-16-2008, 07:06 PM

I didn't go into each thread and read them. That would've taken forever. I just looked at the titles and saw the ones that appeared to be complaining about WB.

And the reason I pointed out The Matrix one was because I thought it should be part of the pricing complaint thread. I figured they could probably just look at some of these and figure out the right place to put them.

I also just meant the coffee book ones could be merged since there's no need for 2 of them.

Clark Kent · 08-17-2008, 01:45 AM

Complaining about Warner's shoddy Blu-ray practices is the last great battle in the format war. We are now nearly nine months away from when they declared they were dumping HD DVD and currently they are the only studio left of all the majors to still release titles with lossy audio and low video bitrates. I do think complaints tend to overwhelm any Warner title announcement or discussion but that is clearly a reflection of some underlying resentment in the userbase here and elsewhere.

ClaytonMG · 08-17-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Complaining about Warner's shoddy Blu-ray practices is the last great battle in the format war. We are now nearly nine months away from when they declared they were dumping HD DVD and currently they are the only studio left of all the majors to still release titles with lossy audio and low video bitrates. I do think complaints tend to overwhelm any Warner title announcement or discussion but that is clearly a reflection of some underlying resentment in the userbase here and elsewhere.

I'll say this again, and I swear this better be the last time... CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER NIGHT. Warner does their encodes in house. When they were set up for HD DVD, guess what they went by. HD DVD's restrictions. These titles that are coming out were more than likely made around the time HD DVD's bitrates were being used. They had yet to change over to Blu-Ray's standards.

They have said, numerous times now, they are working on getting better. And to think they're the last great battle is just absolutely rediculous. The last great battle is probably going to be mass adoption and DVD. And possibly downloads, but I am doubting that.

Alan Gordon · 08-17-2008, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

I'll say this again, and I swear this better be the last time... CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER NIGHT. Warner does their encodes in house. When they were set up for HD DVD, guess what they went by. HD DVD's restrictions. These titles that are coming out were more than likely made around the time HD DVD's bitrates were being used. They had yet to change over to Blu-Ray's standards.

No offense ClaytonMG, but change can happen over night.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that there are still HD DVD encodes out there ("The Perfect Storm" and "The Lost Boys" are two recent WB releases that appear to have been made for dual-format releases... and I'm sure they won't be the last, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now.

When "Shoot 'Em Up" came out on Blu-ray with a high-bitrate encodes, Maxpower1987 stated that it was because New Line wanted to test out using seperate encodes for both formats, but after WB announced they were going Blu-ray exclusive, he admitted that New Line knew "Shoot 'Em Up" would never be released on HD DVD. Granted, "Shoot 'Em Up" was a New Line title that was handled "out of house", but if New Line knew to start Blu-ray encodes last year for a title released at the first of January, then surely WB knew to start Blu-ray encodes in for films released in June and later, and it appeared they did as mulitple titles came out in June that could never have fit on HD DVD, as well as some last month.

While I disagree with some of the "61tchin and moaning" about WB, and trust that Bill Hunt's faith that WB has gotten the message, there are still valid concerns in the meantime.

~Alan

Deciazulado · 08-17-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

I also just meant the coffee book ones could be merged since there's no need for 2 of them.

Well one has an 'European" flavoring to it so that will remain in the Europa fora. But I did move a few of the general coffe book/digipack info/comment posts there to the big other thread.

Deciazulado · 08-17-2008, 04:14 AM

And now this has become another WB complain thread. Should I merge?

Alan Gordon · 08-17-2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado

And now this has become another WB complain thread. Should I merge?

Sorry!

My point was simply that while I think some people take the WB bashing too far sometime, their criticisms are sometimes valid...

~Alan

ClaytonMG · 08-17-2008, 03:54 PM

Let me just say this really quick just because I don't want to turn this into a WB complaint thread.

I do agree that WB absolutely 100% needs to step it up a notch, but I think we need to just wait and see what happens in the next couple of months as far as everything goes. As for Shoot 'Em Up, like you said, that was done "out of house" and as we all know, WB is a little bit slow when it comes to the whole Blu-Ray thing. Plus it's possible some of these discs we're seeing were actually encoded last year for HD DVD. Possible, but not very likely... but still possible!

Anywho, that's the last I'll say on the matter! But thanks for merging the threads!

ClaytonMG · 08-22-2008, 08:14 PM

Can we merge this ::insert appropriate insult here:: thread with the WB complaint thread?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=61201

iceman · 09-18-2008, 12:17 AM

All WB audio whine (people mostly complain about audio nowadays) -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=47895

jw · 09-18-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

All WB audio whine (people mostly complain about audio nowadays) -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=47895

So true, I am tired of hearing about it

ClaytonMG · 09-18-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

All WB audio whine (people mostly complain about audio nowadays) -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=47895

THANK YOU!!!! People just keep complaining about WB stuff when WB even said their press statements are screwey and that they're working on getting better!

ClaytonMG · 10-03-2008, 08:08 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=65841

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=65875

More complaints about WB's audio issues...

ClaytonMG · 10-23-2008, 08:28 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=68294

Here's another one...

08-13-2008, 01:17 PM	#1
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Merge all WB Complaint Threads There are like 3-4 threads on people ranting or discussing WBs Blu-ray quality. Can we please just make 1 WB thread?

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08-13-2008, 03:46 PM	#2
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Holy god I was just going to post this. This is absolutely rediculous around here!!!

08-15-2008, 11:52 PM	#4
iceman Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Home Theater Gallery:13 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:121 DVD collection:26 MA collection:1 Digital collection:6 iTunes collection:10 iTunes music:2 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:1	Link to threads please for faster merge

08-16-2008, 04:16 PM	#5
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Ok, I shall do my best here and hope this helps out: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=53948 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60005 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60062 (locked down) https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=59104 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=56370 (locked down) https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=47895 Coffee Book Threads: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=41296 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=48767 I just kind of went through recent ones. There were some from Feb of this year, but I don't think those really matter.

08-16-2008, 07:06 PM	#7
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I didn't go into each thread and read them. That would've taken forever. I just looked at the titles and saw the ones that appeared to be complaining about WB. And the reason I pointed out The Matrix one was because I thought it should be part of the pricing complaint thread. I figured they could probably just look at some of these and figure out the right place to put them. I also just meant the coffee book ones could be merged since there's no need for 2 of them.

08-17-2008, 01:45 AM	#8
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Complaining about Warner's shoddy Blu-ray practices is the last great battle in the format war. We are now nearly nine months away from when they declared they were dumping HD DVD and currently they are the only studio left of all the majors to still release titles with lossy audio and low video bitrates. I do think complaints tend to overwhelm any Warner title announcement or discussion but that is clearly a reflection of some underlying resentment in the userbase here and elsewhere.

08-17-2008, 04:14 AM	#12
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7047 DVD collection:4044	And now this has become another WB complain thread. Should I merge?

08-17-2008, 03:54 PM	#14
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Let me just say this really quick just because I don't want to turn this into a WB complaint thread. I do agree that WB absolutely 100% needs to step it up a notch, but I think we need to just wait and see what happens in the next couple of months as far as everything goes. As for Shoot 'Em Up, like you said, that was done "out of house" and as we all know, WB is a little bit slow when it comes to the whole Blu-Ray thing. Plus it's possible some of these discs we're seeing were actually encoded last year for HD DVD. Possible, but not very likely... but still possible! Anywho, that's the last I'll say on the matter! But thanks for merging the threads!

08-22-2008, 08:14 PM	#15
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Can we merge this ::insert appropriate insult here:: thread with the WB complaint thread? https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=61201

09-18-2008, 12:17 AM	#16
iceman Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Home Theater Gallery:13 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:121 DVD collection:26 MA collection:1 Digital collection:6 iTunes collection:10 iTunes music:2 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:1	All WB audio whine (people mostly complain about audio nowadays) -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=47895

10-03-2008, 08:08 PM	#19
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=65841 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=65875 More complaints about WB's audio issues...

10-23-2008, 08:28 PM	#20
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=68294 Here's another one...

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