Pioneer Elite Pro150FD

[trey]

So, I'm pretty sure I've convinced myself to get this TV, especially since a local retailer said their price was $2000 less than best buy (they won't quote price over the phone so best buy said they couldn't price match )

I'm wondering if this eliter plasma has the 120Hz, like the sony XBR? I assume it does, I was just looking on their website and couldn't find it under specifications.

I may buy it tonight

[kpkelley]

I believe it is 72hz, which would still be 1080P/24 capable.

[werewuf]

120Hz is only on LCD technology. That being said, the Pro 150FD is possibly the best flat panel on the planet.

[trey]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

I believe it is 72hz, which would still be 1080P/24 capable.

Would there be any disadvantage to 72hz over 120hz, since there is nothing that uses 120hz at this time, and probably won't for a while.

The hz finally pushed me over the edge to want to get a new TV, I was looking at the difference getting a bluray one night and I was like wow F 1080p, HA!

I was looking at the pioneer and the XBR5 today and I liked them both. I think I liked the sony though, cause that's the sort of picture that I'm used to. The Pioneer was beautiful though, and I like the extra eight inches. If the difference between 120 and 72 hz is significant then maybe I'm still on the fence, otherwise (since 72 hz is still 3 times the rate of film, it's still be good, but is 5 times better than 3?)

Another point, would 72 hz mess with displaying a 30hz or 60hz feed?

Originally Posted by werewuf

120Hz is only on LCD technology. That being said, the Pro 150FD is possibly the best flat panel on the planet.

Well that's what I heard, and if you're getting plasma you should go with the 150 FD, but if you're going LCD you should go XBR 5 for top of the line...but I guess I'm essentially just torn between plasma and LCD, but hertz could mean something too.

Sometimes I hate being addicted to technology

[BluWave]

The Elite is a better TV when it comes to accuracy of color and black levels by a mile. Its also got ISF ccc calibration circuitry so getting the optimized picture for your rooms environment both day and night settings which will allow a finer tuner picture. As far as the 72HZ vs 120HZ, That shouldnt matter to an end user when buying a plasma. 120HZ is needed on LCD's to compensate for a slower pixel refresh rate. The Elite will smoke it by all Videophile standards!

[MaleManGuy]

Originally Posted by BluWave

The Elite is a better TV when it comes to accuracy of color and black levels by a mile. Its also got ISF ccc calibration circuitry so getting the optimized picture for your rooms environment both day and night settings which will allow a finer tuner picture. As far as the 72HZ vs 120HZ, That shouldnt matter to an end user when buying a plasma. 120HZ is needed on LCD's to compensate for a slower pixel refresh rate. The Elite will smoke it by all Videophile standards!

making the panel rectangular in shape. So, you can't knock them for everything :-) Both plasma panels and LCD panels are equally rectangular ;-)

Jeff

[rragland]

Originally Posted by trey

So, I'm pretty sure I've convinced myself to get this TV, especially since a local retailer said their price was $2000 less than best buy (they won't quote price over the phone so best buy said they couldn't price match )

I'm wondering if this eliter plasma has the 120Hz, like the sony XBR? I assume it does, I was just looking on their website and couldn't find it under specifications.

I may buy it tonight

I have the PRO-110FD (I sit too close to get the 60") and I love it. I recently upgraded from a PRO-1130HD 1080i, and the difference was significantly noticeable, especially on Blu-ray. The last time I looked at Best Buy the PRO-150FD was priced @ $7,500., so if you can get it for $5,500., that is a good deal.

[JaCKyL]

Originally Posted by trey

Well that's what I heard, and if you're getting plasma you should go with the 150 FD, but if you're going LCD you should go XBR 5 for top of the line...but I guess I'm essentially just torn between plasma and LCD, but hertz could mean something too.

Sometimes I hate being addicted to technology

If you were going LCD, I think that the newer Samsungs are better than the Sony units.......here is the one I have....sorry for the link, but I'm at work so its all I had time for!
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....#productdetail

[trey]

Originally Posted by rragland

I have the PRO-110FD (I sit too close to get the 60") and I love it. I recently upgraded from a PRO-1130HD 1080i, and the difference was significantly noticeable, especially on Blu-ray. The last time I looked at Best Buy the PRO-150FD was priced @ $7,500., so if you can get it for $5,500., that is a good deal.

how far away do you sit? Isit maybe 12 feet max away

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by trey

how far away do you sit? Isit maybe 12 feet max away

With a 60" screen the sweet spot is about 10' away. If you get the Pro 150FD, do you have an extra room you can rent?

[trey]

Originally Posted by werewuf

With a 60" screen the sweet spot is about 10' away. If you get the Pro 150FD, do you have an extra room you can rent?

As a matter of fact I do! Well I have two, but then the Sony KDF with the wii and 360 will go in the second one!!

[trey]

Originally Posted by rragland

The last time I looked at Best Buy the PRO-150FD was priced @ $7,500., so if you can get it for $5,500., that is a good deal.

Whoever told me originally was wrong it was $6499, I'm thinking that's a little more reasonable for best buy to blind price match. I was just checking my posts, but I think I'm on my way to check it out.

It's kinda disappointing cause I wanted to wait and hold out as long as I could, but if best buy were to price match that today, i have a 10% coupon or a triple points coupon that I can use, so I'm essentially forced into it if i can get them to agree, but $6499 plus 6%/10% coupons/discount is pretty good considering its $1000 less MSRP

-and its only 300 over the stodgy "you'll never get it" companies on google

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by trey

As a matter of fact I do! Well I have two, but then the Sony KDF with the wii and 360 will go in the second one!!

I have the Pro 950HD and it is awesome. However, every time I see the 150FD I just stand there and stare, I have wake myself to get going with the rest of my life, it truly is an amazing piece of technology.

[ManUtd]

I've had my 150FD for over a month now and to say I'm extremely satisfied is an understatement. You can check all the reviews and I'm pretty sure you'll be convinced that this best flat panel.

If the price isn't an issue, by all means get it. BTW, online prices are around $5500 while B&M prices are usually $6000 or more. Last I heard there is a severe shortage on this TV so if you're set on getting this and the store has one, better do it fast.

I sit within 8-10' and it is awesome. In the near future I will have it calibrated and it will be even better.

[rragland]

Originally Posted by trey

how far away do you sit? Isit maybe 12 feet max away

I sit 7' away.

[trey]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

If the price isn't an issue, by all means get it. BTW, online prices are around $5500 while B&M prices are usually $6000 or more. Last I heard there is a severe shortage on this TV so if you're set on getting this and the store has one, better do it fast.

Long Version of the Story
I don't do online, cause I don't like to use credit cards.

I went back to the store (since they won't quote price on phone) and the employee had told me the price for a different TV. The price on the elite was $6499. I went to best buy to see if they would be able to price match that without having the price confirmed (since they won't over the phone). After fifteen minutes or something, he comes back and tells me he's been able to get the manager to agree. Following this he proceeds to look at all the stock in the best buys. He said the only one he had found was in Hawaii and they couldn't get it delivered to their store

Enter the floor model...Not really the hugest fan of floor models, but definitely a fan of saving money Another fifteen minutes or so with the manager employee returns and says even though they shouldn't they don't wanna lose the sale, so they can do it. He then proceed to tell me that they couldn't give me anymore of a discount, and I wasn't gonna be able to use a coupon for the purchase.

So I head home a little downtrodden, resigning myself to just go at it again today or next week, BUT! I decided to call the local store (like to support local), I told the guy that at best buy I could get the same price plus a 10% discount with a coupon (lies!). He proceeded to tell me "damn, that's a good deal, you should take it." (Ack!, not what I wanted to hear). I told him I would rather support the local store, and didn't expect that they would be able to give me the whole 10%, but was hoping they could come close.

Short Version of the Story
In Short, I got my Pioneer Pro150FD for $6149, plus $49 for next day delivery (today). My wallet isn't very happy, but shortly I will be extremely stoked


Elite 60" owners - Could some of y'all suggest a good mount for this TV? or should I just go with the standard mount that will hold that size tv?

[ManUtd]

trey congrats! The initial sticker shock will immediately fade once you see the awesome picture quality.

I saw a local AV store use a Sanus VMDD26 on the 150FD and it looked very good and stable. I'm thinking of getting this one myself.

[trey]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

trey congrats! The initial sticker shock will immediately fade once you see the awesome picture quality.

I saw a local AV store use a Sanus VMDD26 on the 150FD and it looked very good and stable. I'm thinking of getting this one myself.

ooh i like that one...i'll have to see if they carry that at any of the stores around town.

any tips on finding the best mounting position? (other than on the studs, duh...)

[trey]

sorry about the picture quality it's my iphone, plus forgive the size, I didn't realize it put out that size pics :/

[anthonybrooker]

congrats. i have the international version of the TV and have had it about 3 weeks now. yesterday i calibrated and it's now amazing. be sure to read this thread to help sort out your calibration settings: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858851

cheers

tony