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Old 08-21-2009, 11:07 PM   #1
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just got my svs pc12plus and im not happy at all...this thing is suppose to shake the paint off the walls...what is going on?...speakers set to small, did everything recommended from the tags and its very mediocre
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:21 PM   #2
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just got my svs pc12plus and im not happy at all...this thing is suppose to shake the paint off the walls...what is going on?...speakers set to small, did everything recommended from the tags and its very mediocre
Location, location, location.

Assuming the sub is not defective, placement in the room is the key to good bass performance. You need to experiment and find the best location for your sub. Usually, the front corner is a good start. You can also use the subwoofer crawl technique. For more information, read A Guide to Bass Management. The crawl technique is explained there.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:42 PM   #3
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ha...damnit..i had the thing in the front left corner and it was canceling out all the bass...i moved it forward about a foot and boom...tons and tons of bass...maybe ill move it a little closer to me and see how that works
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:46 PM   #4
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Yes, despite many general claims that "a subwoofer can be placed anywhere in the room, because bass is non-directional," there is only half-truth to that statement.

Subwoofer location is critical! A few feet can make a startling difference. Sometimes even inches. It's possible that the best location may not even be along the front soundstage. For my living room, I get the highest performance with the sub along the left side of my couch, against the wall there.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:52 PM   #5
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i wonder if its because my ceiling angles down 1.5 before hitting the wall following the contour of the roof...i had it under this part
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:24 AM   #6
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ok ok...got it on the opposite side of the room and now its ...where did these frequencies come from?...does it get better than this?...can it get better than this?...does anyone make a sub that can outperform this (within reason $ wise of course)
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:50 PM   #7
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ha...damnit..i had the thing in the front left corner and it was canceling out all the bass...i moved it forward about a foot and boom...tons and tons of bass...maybe ill move it a little closer to me and see how that works
Happy for you . I have a newer PB12-Plus and an older PC12-Ultra. Trying to unload the heavy box but happy to be using both.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:38 PM   #8
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just got my svs pc12plus and im not happy at all...this thing is suppose to shake the paint off the walls...what is going on?...speakers set to small, did everything recommended from the tags and its very mediocre
shocked they actually work. Just got one a week ago.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance

got this http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-SubDud...0897860&sr=1-1
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:35 AM   #9
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i've got it sounding pretty good..and its very impressive but the only things bothering me is when watching the hulk, during the scene with the sound wave guns, it seems to bottom out for a second when they first blast him...is this the sub or in the actual recording? has anyone else experienced this?
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:44 AM   #10
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i've got it sounding pretty good..and its very impressive but the only things bothering me is when watching the hulk, during the scene with the sound wave guns, it seems to bottom out for a second when they first blast him...is this the sub or in the actual recording? has anyone else experienced this?
Yeah that's deepest bass part of that scene, right when it hits him. How loud did you have it?

When I first got my A2-300, I watched that scene and it bottomed out as well. I had it loud, but nothing crazy and I thought it was because I didn't have a riser. To this day, I haven't watched that movie since I've had my sub but I haven't bottomed out on any other movie. I've done the Iron Hide sweep countless times and it's taken it like a champ

I'm curious to see how many others have had this scene do that as well.
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Yeah that's deepest bass part of that scene, right when it hits him. How loud did you have it?

When I first got my A2-300, I watched that scene and it bottomed out as well. I had it loud, but nothing crazy and I thought it was because I didn't have a riser. To this day, I haven't watched that movie since I've had my sub but I haven't bottomed out on any other movie. I've done the Iron Hide sweep countless times and it's taken it like a champ

I'm curious to see how many others have had this scene do that as well.
Did you ever buy an isolation pad for you're sub or are you still using the Styrofoam. Also how is the new amp doing?
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Did you ever buy an isolation pad for you're sub or are you still using the Styrofoam. Also how is the new amp doing?
No it's still on the foam pads. I've been meaning to build a riser but just been lazy . I'm gonna try that scene again soon and see if it bottoms out. And I'll try it again after I build the riser when the sub doesn't have to be turned up as high

Edit: the new amp is doing awesome! I think something on the old amp may have been loose. During some movie scenes or songs that were pretty quiet, yet had a lot of deep bass, I could hear a slight rattle coming from the sub. But now it sounds great, no noise at all! Now I may be crazy, but I think the sub might actually sound a little better. It seems a little more tight, but I don't know if I can attribute that to the fact that I was bass-less for a few weeks and now I'm just stoked to have it back, but it actually seems a little better. Probably just in my head though

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You know, I think any bottoming-out, boominess, or muddiness on these subwoofers can be fixed with either settings, placement, or tweaks. Until my last set of tweaks, I always had the impression that The Dark Knight simply was mixed with too much bass and was just a little too much for my subs to handle. Boy is that assumption wrong! I played the scenes that always seemed a little muffled and just a little too much for my subs at the levels I listen at (easily above reference) today and was simply blown away, again, by my subwoofers. I'm falling in love with my movies all over again. I better slow down though... I've got a tactile transducer waiting to be ordered and installed! I hope it can keep up with the rest of the system though.
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i've got it sounding pretty good..and its very impressive but the only things bothering me is when watching the hulk, during the scene with the sound wave guns, it seems to bottom out for a second when they first blast him...is this the sub or in the actual recording? has anyone else experienced this?
In that scene I don't notice any bottoming out on my Dual PC12-NSD.
This was the first scene I tried with the Buttkicker and it bottomed out big time! I had to turn the Buttkicker amp volume down, its only in the part when the cannons blast and the scene goes into slow motion, after that its all good.
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UNREAL, UNREAL, UNREAL....i was starting to think i was going to need to order a 2nd one of these until i did the crawl technique...found the right spot and holy hell...every one of my worries has been solved just by putting the sub in the right spot...this thing has so much bass but yet its clean and accurate...im very very happy with this sub ...thanks for all your guys help
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Glad to hear you have found resolution, especially since I have my eye on one of these for someday down the road possibly.
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UNREAL, UNREAL, UNREAL....i was starting to think i was going to need to order a 2nd one of these until i did the crawl technique...found the right spot and holy hell...every one of my worries has been solved just by putting the sub in the right spot...this thing has so much bass but yet its clean and accurate...im very very happy with this sub ...thanks for all your guys help
Glad to here you're rocking But one thing I have to ask..... where are the pics
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in the official svs owner thread
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Need to put them in you're gallery.
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Glad to hear you got the sub position down. Does it still bottom out on that Hulk scene? I'm curious because I'll need to find a good spot for mine so that I can try that scene again. It's the only scene so far that's made my sub bottom out
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