billu,munnabhai lageraho,bhool review

[kris26]

These three movie are upgraded dvd seems like it though
and also these billu and bhool are a little over 25gb
munnabhai lageraho is under 25gb which is single layer
quality isn't as impressive as Om shanti om and saawariya

On the other hand partner is good upconverted quality

[kailashu]

Very Disappointing. I am not going to jump the gun anymore. I am going to wait before I shell out money on Bolly BD's. All of the newly released EROS BDs lack detail and looks washed out. Total waste of money $25 per BD. This is what happens when one goes with an authoring house with no prescribed standards.

[jjh]

Originally Posted by kris26

These three movie are upgraded dvd seems like it though
and also these billu and bhool are a little over 25gb
munnabhai lageraho is under 25gb which is single layer
quality isn't as impressive as Om shanti om and saawariya
On the other hand partner is very good quality its worth it buy

Partner is the worst of the lot. Looks like upsampled standard definition. No HD.

[urbanriz]

Partner I saw on OMNI HD here in Canada and the PQ is an almost exact match(!) ..

These upconverted DVDs to BR are simply a way for Ero$ to extract more money from people by telling them it is HD when in fact it isn't(!).

Poor show Ero$ .. you had an EXCELLENT opportunity to showcase the next generation of HD Bollywood Movies and you threw it out the window and clearly showed us you are simply out to make money and dont care about quality and the consumer!

[kris26]

No offense to the promoters or bluray distrubutors who are with eros

These four blurays are transfered by/in....

the alley from the bolly
come on EROS you paid for the 50gb stamping disc and u r ending up with less than 25gb on the main movie

heyy babyy looks very good in compare to these last four

[anibap]

What a shame after all this wait...After watching Sawaariya and heyy Babyy on Blu ray on a 1080p projector , I showed this to few of my brit colleagues and they said - why do you guys complain about transfers on indian movies ? I reminded them that it was mostly DVDs we complain (except a few decent ones).

I was convinced that indian blu rays can look equal or in some cases better than many Hollywood BRs.

From the comments from you guys it is looking like the dream has ended and we are back to mediocre releases from ppl who doesn't know what they are doing.

If the video quality is as bad as described here I am not buying...

I have Saawariya and never intended to buy a crap movie like OSO and Heyy Babyy but I guess I will buy one of those to show that once Bollywood raised the bar and this is what they delivered....

I only hope the quality of BRs from YRS are top quality.

Bollywood Blu Ray, if you are close to these studios please send our concerns to them. This will be of immense help to the community here who wants to see quality output that is meant for this medium.

[jjh]

Originally Posted by Bollywood Blu-ray

yashraj will be giving out high quality BD's ,we have seen the next 10 movies which have been remastered to HD quality (@shemaroo studios)
.

Some Yash Raj titles of the 10 are from the 90s. You can not just do a telecine in HD. The negatives must have issues and some restoration is required. Was any high quality restoration done for these films?

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by Bollywood Blu-ray

please email yashraj direct ref technical aspect of transfers ..
we can only go by what we saw and the information they give us..

Thanks

So... what did you think of Dhoom:2?!?!

I'm also surprised these new Eros blu-rays aren't up to standards. OSO and Heyy Babyy look awesome to me.

[kailashu]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

So... what did you think of Dhoom:2?!?!

I'm also surprised these new Eros blu-rays aren't up to standards. OSO and Heyy Babyy look awesome to me.

They switched companies that authored their BDs. This chandana guy messed it up big time. Guess a newbie to the format with no quality controls or standards, everything will be kaput. Looks like this guy has authored a bunch of movies including jodhaa akbar. Big blow for UTV.

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by kailashu

They switched companies that authored their BDs. This chandana guy messed it up big time. Guess a newbie to the format with no quality controls or standards, everything will be kaput. Looks like this guy has authored a bunch of movies including jodhaa akbar. Big blow for UTV.

Ah damn that sucks! I hope they either get a new guy to do it or he learns to do it properly.

[anibap]

Thought of resurrecting this thread. Reason ?

Watched Bhool Bhoolayia BR tonight and also watched OSO yesterday and would like share my thoughts after so much has been written the quality of the Eros titles.

First, OSO has impressive PQ and looked great yesterday on my 1080p PJ on a 90 inch screen.

Today, when I popped in the Bhool bhulaiya disc I was just waiting to get shocked as per reports here.

And you guys are right. Up to the movie home page everything looked great and I was just thinking this looks ok...

As soon I played the movie, the first thing that happened was the black scrren immediately turned greyish - the black floor was raised in the movie encoding. I could see the following elements badly affected due to this

1. Blacks - washed out
2. Contrast - picture with no depth
3. Colour - very flat
4. Sharpness - soft and no depth

Overall it was indeed looking like upscaled DVD. I got really mad and started thinking how could Eros release such a rubbish transfer.

At this point an idea came to my mind. I went to my BD players settings and changed the HDMI setting from auto to the RGB mode that limits the range. Normallly, this mode by default clipps blacks and white and the image turns darker and enforces a RGB(full range) and RGB Video (limited range) on my PJ.

With this change and my PJ set to RGB Video, the image changed dramatically and it looked great. Every aspect of the image became clearer and it was just like watching a good BR.

To me, some scenes looked much better than OSO disc and it looked like a good transfer.

I am just thinking if the authoring was done using the wrong color space set at the monitor for review or while doing the encoding. Coz, with the HDMI changed settings, I really enjoyed the disc. Colors , contrast, blacks and shadow detail all looked great and it didn't looked like upscaled DVD. Detail , sharpness was really good. Agree it could be better, but I have seen many Hollywood transfers which are not as good.

Appreciate anyone who owns this disc to report back here after playing with the HDMI settings. I think you will be surprised.

[vveksuvarna]

if everyone thinks the movie looks bad...i doubt it would be the HDMI's fault.

everyone one here has owned and seen spectacular quality blurays...and none of them needed hdmi to be reset to ensure better quality.

& yes, my hdmi - lcd & bluray player are calibrated for optimum performance.

[desiblu]

Originally Posted by anibap

Thought of resurrecting this thread. Reason ?

Watched Bhool Bhoolayia BR tonight and also watched OSO yesterday and would like share my thoughts after so much has been written the quality of the Eros titles.

First, OSO has impressive PQ and looked great yesterday on my 1080p PJ on a 90 inch screen.

Today, when I popped in the Bhool bhulaiya disc I was just waiting to get shocked as per reports here.

And you guys are right. Up to the movie home page everything looked great and I was just thinking this looks ok...

As soon I played the movie, the first thing that happened was the black scrren immediately turned greyish - the black floor was raised in the movie encoding. I could see the following elements badly affected due to this

1. Blacks - washed out
2. Contrast - picture with no depth
3. Colour - very flat
4. Sharpness - soft and no depth

Overall it was indeed looking like upscaled DVD. I got really mad and started thinking how could Eros release such a rubbish transfer.

At this point an idea came to my mind. I went to my BD players settings and changed the HDMI setting from auto to the RGB mode that limits the range. Normallly, this mode by default clipps blacks and white and the image turns darker and enforces a RGB(full range) and RGB Video (limited range) on my PJ.

With this change and my PJ set to RGB Video, the image changed dramatically and it looked great. Every aspect of the image became clearer and it was just like watching a good BR.

To me, some scenes looked much better than OSO disc and it looked like a good transfer.

I am just thinking if the authoring was done using the wrong color space set at the monitor for review or while doing the encoding. Coz, with the HDMI changed settings, I really enjoyed the disc. Colors , contrast, blacks and shadow detail all looked great and it didn't looked like upscaled DVD. Detail , sharpness was really good. Agree it could be better, but I have seen many Hollywood transfers which are not as good.

Appreciate anyone who owns this disc to report back here after playing with the HDMI settings. I think you will be surprised.

^^ ok so do we have to set RGB at full or limited setting? i'm using a ps3 ..
i did not buy any of eros's latest releases after reading the reviews here.. but ur review gave me hope ..can u plz comment on munnabhai's quality nd billu barber if u have them ...thanks

[vveksuvarna]

Originally Posted by desiblu

^^ ok so do we have to set RGB at full or limited setting? i'm using a ps3 ..
i did not buy any of eros's latest releases after reading the reviews here.. but ur review gave me hope ..can u plz comment on munnabhai's quality nd billu barber if u have them ...thanks

it should be at y/cb/cr

[anibap]

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

if everyone thinks the movie looks bad...i doubt it would be the HDMI's fault.

everyone one here has owned and seen spectacular quality blurays...and none of them needed hdmi to be reset to ensure better quality.

I thought the same when the movie started on auto setting and looked like a complete crap whereas other blu s dazzled with same settings.

I did not say that it has the best quality but it looked perfectly all right and I have to say looked quite good to me. Colors, sharpness, gamma were nearly there.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

& yes, my hdmi - lcd & bluray player are calibrated for optimum performance.

Sure you do and same with me vvek. I am very particular about PQ at least and don't play anything crap. When I loaded the disc I thought of not watching wasting my lamp life but my wife insisted to see it anyway. Then this idea of switching to a RGB video signal came to my mind.

Frankly speaking it looked great and things like detial on skins, skin tones really loked great and I was surprised to see how diffrent it was compared to the standard settings. I have seen the DVD and the blu ray quality looked much better in the mode I watched.

I am not a big fan of the movie and eros as such and so won't stop from stating they did a rubbish job of encoding it wrongly (if that is the case) but once on changed HDMI settings it looked gorgeous.

All I can say is try and see it yourself. Force a RGB video signal that will clipp the extra grey and whites and make the picture look great. I am sure it must be an encode issue during authoring with wrong color space or something.

Will rent the Laage raho as well and see.

Originally Posted by desiblu

^^ ok so do we have to set RGB at full or limited setting? i'm using a ps3 ..
i did not buy any of eros's latest releases after reading the reviews here.. but ur review gave me hope ..can u plz comment on munnabhai's quality nd billu barber if u have them ...thanks

Try the different settings and see. I do not have the other two movies but assume the problem is same. If I can rent them I will let you know.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

it should be at y/cb/cr

Technically not always with some players. I am using a Sony S350 player and it has 4 HDMI modes and one auto.

When the player is set to auto the player sends a y/cb/cr signal (video) that matyches the source encode of the disc. My PJ automatically switches to a Rec 709 color space when the colour space in PJ is also set to auto.

In the player side I can change the HDMI settings manually to two y/cb/cr settings or two RGB settings (16-235 and 0-255). If I set it to RGB mode in player, the player sends a PC based signal (RGB or RGB Video) and in this case my PJ switcehs to RGB Video / RGB mode if set to auto colour space.

This is the setting I changed and forced my PJ to select RGB video clipping the excessive washed out image to a proper image (the one that would look normal like any other disc played with auto settings on both player and PJ and the singal is not a RGB kind.

This worked for me and I could see a very good quality disc and hence IO think there must be some authoring problem related to the color space.

What's the harm in giving a try? I am not saying to make this your default settings. This setting could work fro discs like this which looks like they are wrongly encoded.

On a side note, if any of you use a PJ with a laptop via HDMI or VGA, you will see there are two color space available on your PJ - RGB and RGB Video.

For normal computer work, you have to use RGB but if you play a video - mkv file, dvd etc you will see the same washout problem. Just switch your colour space from RGB to RGB videio and you will see everything is corrected except your desktop which would clipp the blacks.

[vveksuvarna]

Originally Posted by anibap

When I loaded the disc I thought of not watching wasting my lamp life

lmfao !!

[anibap]

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

lmfao !!

Precious...