Yamaha RX-V1800BL or Onkyo TX-SR805 - Blu-ray Forum

Entertainment72 · 02-25-2008, 08:22 PM

Help me out guys.. about a $1000 budget..

RX-V1800BL

OR

TX-SR805

Thanks..

Single_Stack · 02-25-2008, 08:27 PM

I would call A/V Science and ask what they recommend. Excellent prices, and killer customer service. www.avscience.com 1-877-823-4452

They helped me choose one not too long ago. They did not try to upsell me, but were truly interested in my needs.

Their prices are VERY good!

MacDaddyOJack · 02-25-2008, 08:28 PM

I thought myself to death with this very same question back in october. I ended up getting the Onkyo and I couldn't be happier. I think the build quality on the Onkyo is better and it also has Burr-Brown DACs like the Yamaha does. I have not had the Yamaha in my actual home to play with, but since I've had the Onkyo, there has not been a single incidence when I thought I should have gone with the Yamaha. I am completely satisfied with the Onkyo.

ShawnE94SL · 02-25-2008, 11:47 PM

I am sort of in the same boat. I just returned the 805 because of the lip sync issue. I tried all the fixes, but it was still there...some channels worse then others. It's a shame too because the 805 is a great receiver. That being said; the RX-V1800 is being sold for $798.00 shipped @ 6ave.com when you use the a special discount coupon code.

I would go for the Yamaha.

Bmfr79 · 02-26-2008, 12:06 AM

Definitely the Yammy. Unfortunately, the 805 has lip synch issues that can make your viewing experience completely miserable. The deal that was mentioned in the prior post can not be beat and expires 02/29/08.

e90335i · 02-26-2008, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmfr79

Definitely the Yammy. Unfortunately, the 805 has lip synch issues that can make your viewing experience completely miserable. The deal that was mentioned in the prior post can not be beat and expires 02/29/08.

Hi there, i couldn't find the coupon code anywhere, could you please tell me what is the code? the 6ave.com still lists the 1800 as $1199.

thanks!

ninjabmx64 · 02-26-2008, 04:34 AM

I hope the Onkyo is better. I was also trying to make the same decision and ended up going with the Onkyo. I'm getting mine on 2-28 so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Buy them off Ebay. Best prices I could find. I paid $750 for mine shipped from a seller with 20,000 sales and 99% positive feedback (BNIB). If you want the Yamaha, you can find similar deals for these on Ebay as well.

Rike255 · 02-26-2008, 04:51 AM

I have the 805 and I couldn't be happier. Never encountered any "lip syncing issues" like one or two people on this site. It's an amazing receiver you'll be vey happy with your purchase.

blu master · 02-26-2008, 05:19 AM

I would say the yammy

Bmfr79 · 02-26-2008, 06:39 AM

My apologies for not posting the code earlier. The code for the V1800 is : AFLYAM768. (6ave) Regarding the lip synching issues on the 805 from what I have read doesn't effect all inputs or programming, but ruins your experience when it does. If there are those of you who have not had the issues with the 805, good for you. They are very nice receivers and provide many features for their price. More information on the lip synching issues can be found here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13221739

Nooff · 02-26-2008, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmfr79

Definitely the Yammy. Unfortunately, the 805 has lip synch issues that can make your viewing experience completely miserable. The deal that was mentioned in the prior post can not be beat and expires 02/29/08.

No it hasn't, not on mine

The Onkyo is a fantastic piece of equipment, it weighs a ton and it's MASSIVE! I couldn't be happier, the sound it produces is very impressive

ShawnE94SL · 02-26-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rike255

I have the 805 and I couldn't be happier. Never encountered any "lip syncing issues" like one or two people on this site. It's an amazing receiver you'll be vey happy with your purchase.

You should consider yourself lucky. This is a known problem and has effected more then two people. It's a shame because I wanted to keep this Receiver. Although, I'm kind of glad in away because now I can get the Yamaha RXV1800 or the Denon 2808CI for the same price.

6ave.com is a great site.

MacDaddyOJack · 02-26-2008, 11:06 AM

No lip sync issues with mine either.

Rike255 · 02-26-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnE94SL

You should consider yourself lucky. This is a known problem and has effected more then two people. It's a shame because I wanted to keep this Receiver. Although, I'm kind of glad in away because now I can get the Yamaha RXV1800 or the Denon 2808CI for the same price.

6ave.com is a great site.

I'm kind of skeptical about this issue really. We have a large percentage of people who own this receiver with no issues and a few people who do. Could it be your source or improper setup? Short of a factory defect I just don't see how you and that other guy are the only ones with the issue.
Maybe you can give a little more information on what's happening and what your other components are?

Bmfr79 · 02-26-2008, 02:34 PM

I do not and have not had the issue. I do not even own the receiver. If you read through the posts I stated that I considered this receiver but backed away from it due to the issue. I have also provided a link to avs where the issue is discussed in great detail. While I agree with you that there are probably more folks without the issue than with it, it is still unfortunate that people like myself back away from the 805 due to the fact that they may be affected by the dreaded "lip synch issue." At any rate the point of this thread, I thought was to help our fellow poster decide which receiver to purchase. While I know you own the 805 it seems that the Yamaha is a much better deal at a similar price point if purchased using the coupon code listed previously. I would still say the Yamaha is a better receiver for the money.

ShawnE94SL · 02-26-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rike255

I'm kind of skeptical about this issue really. We have a large percentage of people who own this receiver with no issues and a few people who do. Could it be your source or improper setup? Short of a factory defect I just don't see how you and that other guy are the only ones with the issue.
Maybe you can give a little more information on what's happening and what your other components are?

Me and that other guy are not the only ones. There is a thread on AVS for this model. If I could access the site here from work I would post the link. There are numorous reports of this issue. I am not the only one that returned this receiver due to this problem.

It would happen on certains shows and movies. For instance; my local news on NBS was in sync, yet SNL was off. ABC: Lost suffered horrible sync issues while other shows on ABC did not. And no matter what I did in the setting to adjust it, the problem was always there.

On a side note. I hooked my Sony STRDG1000 (HDMI) back up and replayed Lost and SNL through my DVR and everything was in sync. I never had an issue before. I'm not knocking this receiver. If you have one with no issues, good for you. I wish I did as well. It's a great receiver for the money.

I am now looking at the Denon AVR2808CI. No reported lip sync issues at all.

ShawnE94SL · 02-26-2008, 02:41 PM

Oh, and hands down the Yamaha is a better sounding/quality receiver; however, there is also a known issue with those as well. Read the thread on AVS. It has something to do with the video being passed through. I don't think it's as wide spread as the lip sync issue though.

MacDaddyOJack · 02-26-2008, 02:42 PM

I think that some are affected by this lip sync issue as the A/V delay comes automatically set at 40 msec. If you turn on the Lip Sync feature and do not change the A/V delay, then the voices are still going to be off. I have my A/V delay set at 5 msec and the lip sync feature turned off as that is only for the tv anyways.

ShawnE94SL · 02-26-2008, 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=MacDaddyOJack;658844]I think that some are affected by this lip sync issue as the A/V delay comes automatically set at 40 msec. If you turn on the Lip Sync feature and do not change the A/V delay, then the voices are still going to be off. I have my A/V delay set at 5 msec and the lip sync feature turned off as that is only for the tv anyways.[/QUOTE

In the AVS thread there was a post on how to get rid of the sync issue to the point of "acceptable", but it was always going to be there. I tried all of the methods in the post and they did work to some degree, but when people talked fast or shouted the delay would be so much worse.

To me it just wasn’t worth it. If I am going to pay that much money for a receiver I want it to work flawlessly.

delavoie · 02-26-2008, 02:55 PM

I would go Yamaha.. they always have a solidly built product.
I heard of overheating issues with Onkyo's..

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02-25-2008, 08:22 PM	#1
Entertainment72 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Myers, FL Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews:1	Yamaha RX-V1800BL or Onkyo TX-SR805 Help me out guys.. about a $1000 budget.. RX-V1800BL OR TX-SR805 Thanks..

02-26-2008, 02:34 PM	#15
Bmfr79 Member Member since:Jun 2007	I do not and have not had the issue. I do not even own the receiver. If you read through the posts I stated that I considered this receiver but backed away from it due to the issue. I have also provided a link to avs where the issue is discussed in great detail. While I agree with you that there are probably more folks without the issue than with it, it is still unfortunate that people like myself back away from the 805 due to the fact that they may be affected by the dreaded "lip synch issue." At any rate the point of this thread, I thought was to help our fellow poster decide which receiver to purchase. While I know you own the 805 it seems that the Yamaha is a much better deal at a similar price point if purchased using the coupon code listed previously. I would still say the Yamaha is a better receiver for the money. Last edited by Bmfr79; 02-26-2008 at 02:36 PM.

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02-25-2008, 08:27 PM	#2
Single_Stack Member Member since:Nov 2007	I would call A/V Science and ask what they recommend. Excellent prices, and killer customer service. www.avscience.com 1-877-823-4452 They helped me choose one not too long ago. They did not try to upsell me, but were truly interested in my needs. Their prices are VERY good!

02-25-2008, 08:28 PM	#3
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	I thought myself to death with this very same question back in october. I ended up getting the Onkyo and I couldn't be happier. I think the build quality on the Onkyo is better and it also has Burr-Brown DACs like the Yamaha does. I have not had the Yamaha in my actual home to play with, but since I've had the Onkyo, there has not been a single incidence when I thought I should have gone with the Yamaha. I am completely satisfied with the Onkyo.

02-25-2008, 11:47 PM	#4
ShawnE94SL Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sellersville, PA Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:11	I am sort of in the same boat. I just returned the 805 because of the lip sync issue. I tried all the fixes, but it was still there...some channels worse then others. It's a shame too because the 805 is a great receiver. That being said; the RX-V1800 is being sold for $798.00 shipped @ 6ave.com when you use the a special discount coupon code. I would go for the Yamaha.

02-26-2008, 12:06 AM	#5
Bmfr79 Member Member since:Jun 2007	Definitely the Yammy. Unfortunately, the 805 has lip synch issues that can make your viewing experience completely miserable. The deal that was mentioned in the prior post can not be beat and expires 02/29/08.

02-26-2008, 04:34 AM	#7
ninjabmx64 Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Castle Rock, CO Blu-ray reviews:2	I hope the Onkyo is better. I was also trying to make the same decision and ended up going with the Onkyo. I'm getting mine on 2-28 so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Buy them off Ebay. Best prices I could find. I paid $750 for mine shipped from a seller with 20,000 sales and 99% positive feedback (BNIB). If you want the Yamaha, you can find similar deals for these on Ebay as well.

02-26-2008, 04:51 AM	#8
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	I have the 805 and I couldn't be happier. Never encountered any "lip syncing issues" like one or two people on this site. It's an amazing receiver you'll be vey happy with your purchase.

02-26-2008, 05:19 AM	#9
blu master Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:New york city Blu-ray collection:9	I would say the yammy

02-26-2008, 06:39 AM	#10
Bmfr79 Member Member since:Jun 2007	My apologies for not posting the code earlier. The code for the V1800 is : AFLYAM768. (6ave) Regarding the lip synching issues on the 805 from what I have read doesn't effect all inputs or programming, but ruins your experience when it does. If there are those of you who have not had the issues with the 805, good for you. They are very nice receivers and provide many features for their price. More information on the lip synching issues can be found here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13221739

02-26-2008, 11:06 AM	#13
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	No lip sync issues with mine either.

02-26-2008, 02:41 PM	#17
ShawnE94SL Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sellersville, PA Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:11	Oh, and hands down the Yamaha is a better sounding/quality receiver; however, there is also a known issue with those as well. Read the thread on AVS. It has something to do with the video being passed through. I don't think it's as wide spread as the lip sync issue though.

02-26-2008, 02:42 PM	#18
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	I think that some are affected by this lip sync issue as the A/V delay comes automatically set at 40 msec. If you turn on the Lip Sync feature and do not change the A/V delay, then the voices are still going to be off. I have my A/V delay set at 5 msec and the lip sync feature turned off as that is only for the tv anyways.

02-26-2008, 02:49 PM	#19
ShawnE94SL Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sellersville, PA Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:11	[QUOTE=MacDaddyOJack;658844]I think that some are affected by this lip sync issue as the A/V delay comes automatically set at 40 msec. If you turn on the Lip Sync feature and do not change the A/V delay, then the voices are still going to be off. I have my A/V delay set at 5 msec and the lip sync feature turned off as that is only for the tv anyways.[/QUOTE In the AVS thread there was a post on how to get rid of the sync issue to the point of "acceptable", but it was always going to be there. I tried all of the methods in the post and they did work to some degree, but when people talked fast or shouted the delay would be so much worse. To me it just wasn’t worth it. If I am going to pay that much money for a receiver I want it to work flawlessly.

02-26-2008, 02:55 PM	#20
delavoie Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:At the Beach! NB, Canada	I would go Yamaha.. they always have a solidly built product. I heard of overheating issues with Onkyo's..

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