Blu-ray authoring help

[rglusic]

We produce beautiful HD national park program we're trying to replicate to Bluray. We used Roxio DVDit HD for bluray authoring and it did a good job making a playable BD-r. We used there mastering output and sent the file to the Sony bluray plant and it made it through the glass master test disc with no errors but the test disc won't play. They sent the test disc to the experts in Japan and they couldn't find the problem. I searching now for a small company or indiviual who has a high end bluray authoring software like Scenarist that would like to author our 4 HD programs at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Bob Glusic
541-488-9363
Bob@wildernessvideo.com

[Manta-Ray]

I feel your pain. Did almost everything you did minus the trip to Japan. Don't try Encore CS3 (which claims to do Blu-ray but cannot master) because thats another dead end.

Scenarist and Blu-Print (from Sony) are your only professional options.

[rglusic]

Roxio is trying to help and I just sent the check disc to them and they will try it on there BD verifier.

[Manta-Ray]

I'm interested in knowing what happens since we were also in direct contact with Roxio and also sent them a test disc. This was also another dead end.

We were able to produce a high quality and fully functional BD disc using Roxio DVDit Pro. However, we encountered too many technical issues while attempting to master that it became unfeasible to create a reliable BD disc for mass production. This software is descent at creating a 1-2 copy BD disc for residential consumers. I have read too many complaints about mastering with this software and have yet to see anyone capable of being successful. Your safest bet is to use either Scenarist or Blu-Print.

[rglusic]

Haven't heard any news from Roxio yet and Sony says they are still looking into the problem. Plan on getting it re-authored with Scenarist in a few weeks.

[Darkmoon_UK]

For more information about authoring discs with high end software like Scenarist and Blu-print; you coule try asking in the small but growing forum:

http://www.bdjforum.com

Good luck with your project,

Chris

[JadedRaverLA]

If you do ever have any luck with Roxio, do let us know. I've never heard of anyone having luck mastering with software other than Blu-print or Scenarist HD. If Roxio's solution actually started to work, that would really be great for smaller producers.

BTW, have you had any luck getting someone to help with your project?

[rglusic]

Roxio has e-mailed there still testing and will let you know if they come up with anything.

[lylez]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

If you do ever have any luck with Roxio, do let us know. I've never heard of anyone having luck mastering with software other than Blu-print or Scenarist HD. If Roxio's solution actually started to work, that would really be great for smaller producers.

BTW, have you had any luck getting someone to help with your project?

I've been through a month of hell with Roxio. Their latest version of Easy Media Creator 9 has .m2ts files (which are produced by the Sony Handycam HDR-SR1) listed as one of its file types (unbeknownced to half the people working there), but it doesn't work. They finally decided that this is an error, that Easy Media Creator 9 doesn't support HD, but that Easy Media creator 10 does. They also love to blame the fact that my video card wasn't made in the last 5 minutes for their software's inability to read .m2ts files. I upgraded to a new video card which has drivers that were updated in July 2007, but it still doesn't work. I keep getting an error message which reads, "Error building graph". To make a very long story short, they were very uncooperative.

[lylez]

As I described in my other posting https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...882#post188882 I've had nothing but trouble with Roxio. They kept blaming my video card, so I bought a new one, and updated the drivers to July 2007. I still got the "Error building graph" message. I finally returned Roxio Easy Media Creator 9, and am now deleting it off my machine.

Next, I tried Ulead DVD Movie Factory 6 Plus. It won't even attempt to read .m2ts files. Here's what they wrote back to me:

"Both products have the same features except that DVD MovieFactory 6 plus was intended for authoring; with regards to .m2ts files, both of these products wouldn't understand .m2ts files directly. You have to use "Insert DVD/DVD-VR" function to import each clips."

What this means, is that I have to connect my camcorder to my PC, and basically trick the software into thinking the camcorder is a dvd. Then I guess maybe it would slurp up the video/audio, and use it. But the trouble is, I've already copied the video on the camcorder to my PC, deleted it from the camcorder, and repeated this process several times. I've tried copying it back to the camcorder, but it won't let you copy files larger than 2 GB, which corresponds to about 15 minutes of high-definition footage. This means if you've recorded some 1-hour meetings, you have to break them up into 15-minute chunks (assuming you have enough disk space to do so), then copy them one at a time back to your camcorder. This process literally takes days. I may have to resort to something like this, but even if I did, I'd still have to buy a new computer because I'd be processing the footage at real-time, and my poor 6-year old computer isn't fast enough to do that. So I'd now be looking at $1400 for the camcorder, $600 for the blu-ray burner, and now another $1000 - $2000 for a new high-end computer. Its getting a little hard on the budget.

I tried using that DeMuxer https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=2562 but it just generates an error message and quits before I even try to load a file.

I also tried using the software that comes with the Sony camcorder to produce a AVCHD disk. This won't work on my Sony blu-ray disk writer if it had a blu-ray disk in it, but it does appear to work if it has a regular dvd in it. But of course, it won't play on my Samsung BDP-1000 blu-ray player; another dead end.

One guy did post this message, which you can judge for yourself - I haven't tried it: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/sho...3&postcount=18

Cineform writes:
"I suggest using Aspect HD with Premiere Pro CS3. Use Aspect HD's HDLink utility to convert the m2ts file (on your harddrive) to a cineform HD AVI file and then import the avi files into Premiere Pro CS3 for editing."

I am now going to try this, and see if it works.

I strongly recommend that everyone avoids ever buying any Sony camcorder, and instead, considers something like this: http://www.ifa-show.com/0109/hitachi...ray-camcorder/

Cyberlink claims (on September 26, 2007):
"The PowerProducer5 will support .m2ts files.
But the product will be released in one month."

I'll keep you posted.

Lyle

[TenEighty]

Hey Lylez,

Where did you get this information:

"Cyberlink claims (on September 26, 2007):
"The PowerProducer5 will support .m2ts files.
But the product will be released in one month.""

I have been anxiously awaiting Cyberlink's support of AVCHD. They make great editing and authoring packages.

I tried Ulead's approach. The importing from a DVD function is not that bad, you just copy the raw files from your camera to your hard drive (be sure to keep the /BDMV directory structure). I just don't much care for their editing package.

Thanks for the info.

[lylez]

Originally Posted by TenEighty

Hey Lylez,

Where did you get this information:

"Cyberlink claims (on September 26, 2007):
"The PowerProducer5 will support .m2ts files.
But the product will be released in one month.""

I have been anxiously awaiting Cyberlink's support of AVCHD. They make great editing and authoring packages.

I tried Ulead's approach. The importing from a DVD function is not that bad, you just copy the raw files from your camera to your hard drive (be sure to keep the /BDMV directory structure). I just don't much care for their editing package.

Thanks for the info.

That's an excerpt from an email I got back from them. I have ftp'd a sample .m2ts file to them, which the woman said (on September 28, 2007) that she would forward on to the RD team. If any break throughs are made, I will post news of them here.

Mean while, I have downloaded Cineform's AspectHD software. It too generates an error message. I have notified their tech support people, and sent them a sample file as well.

[Don Blish]

I can't assure it will work for you, but when I used Cyberlink PowerProducer and wanted to use .m2t files, I was able to use RemuxTS to produce a file that was mpeg elementary streams. The download is here, partway down (its in Japanese):

http://www.yamabe.org/softbody.html

Running it is confusing because it writes a copy of the file with the exact same filename and extension to another directory. Just take the output and change to .mpg and it may work well for you.

I currently use Roxio DVDit Pro HD to make projects with menus. I could do it from demuxed .m2t files, but get better results, especially at hard scene changes by feeding DVDit my Cineform Aspect HD .avi files. If all I have on an old project is an .m2t file, I use Cineform HD link to take it back to Cineform .avi

[lylez]

Originally Posted by Don Blish

I can't assure it will work for you, but when I used Cyberlink PowerProducer and wanted to use .m2t files, I was able to use RemuxTS to produce a file that was mpeg elementary streams. The download is here, partway down (its in Japanese):

http://www.yamabe.org/softbody.html

Running it is confusing because it writes a copy of the file with the exact same filename and extension to another directory. Just take the output and change to .mpg and it may work well for you.

I currently use Roxio DVDit Pro HD to make projects with menus. I could do it from demuxed .m2t files, but get better results, especially at hard scene changes by feeding DVDit my Cineform Aspect HD .avi files. If all I have on an old project is an .m2t file, I use Cineform HD link to take it back to Cineform .avi

When I try to run that, it says, "Cannot find capture device" when it first comes up.

[Don Blish]

Originally Posted by lylez

When I try to run that, it says, "Cannot find capture device" when it first comes up.

Which "it" are you referring to: PowerProducer, ReMux_TS or Roxio?

The ReMux_TS I use uses files, not capture devices.

[lylez]

When I invoke CapDVHS.exe, an error message pops up which states, "Cannot find capture device". This is before I have interacted with the program in any way, other than to invoke it.

Regards

Lyle

[Don Blish]

Sorry, can't help you there. I capture from my HDV camera using PremierePro2. My .m2t files are Cineform exports for archive purposes.

[plee]

Originally Posted by lylez

When I invoke CapDVHS.exe, an error message pops up which states, "Cannot find capture device". This is before I have interacted with the program in any way, other than to invoke it.

Regards

Lyle

Do you know if CapDVHS.exe supports your camcorder? Have you tried any other app?

[lylez]

Originally Posted by plee

Do you know if CapDVHS.exe supports your camcorder? Have you tried any other app?

I didn't get that far. I tried to invoke the executable, and immediately got the error message.

[TenEighty]

Originally Posted by lylez

That's an excerpt from an email I got back from them. I have ftp'd a sample .m2ts file to them, which the woman said (on September 28, 2007) that she would forward on to the RD team. If any break throughs are made, I will post news of them here.

Mean while, I have downloaded Cineform's AspectHD software. It too generates an error message. I have notified their tech support people, and sent them a sample file as well.

Hi Lylez:

Cyberlink's PowerDirector now supports .m2ts files. Cyberlink's workflow is much smoother than Ulead's. You don't have to pull the files from the camera. You just open the .m2ts video files just like any other video file. Their software converts the .m2ts files to hd-mpeg2 for editing. You even can batch process a whole directory.

Check it out!