The grainiest BluRay so far??

[almy]

The ongoing debate and posts about film grain seem to say it is OK and just a presentation of how a title may have been originally filmed and that digitally reducing said grain is almost a sin. So, I just watched a Blu disc entitles SUBLIME and I don't know if I was seeing grain, compression artifacts or some other "digital noise", but whatever, if this is an example of grain, then it is also a prime example of the occaisonal need for grain reduction. Anyone else seen it?

[prkprkprk]

I really don't know. There are lots out there, however.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by almy

The ongoing debate and posts about film grain seem to say it is OK and just a presentation of how a title may have been originally filmed and that digitally reducing said grain is almost a sin. So, I just watched a Blu disc entitles SUBLIME and I don't know if I was seeing grain, compression artifacts or some other "digital noise", but whatever, if this is an example of grain, then it is also a prime example of the occaisonal need for grain reduction. Anyone else seen it?

Why would you want to remove the grain from a film.. its part of the film.

Its the texture of the medium, as a artists paints his portrait the texture of the canvas adds to the portrait would you lift the painting from the canvas because you don't like the texture of the canvas?

I think its the original artists preference not ours.. thats just the way I see it.

[Mr. HiDef]

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Why would you want to remove the grain from a film.. its part of the film.

Its the texture of the medium, as a artists paints his portrait the texture of the canvas adds to the portrait would you lift the painting from the canvas because you don't like the texture of the canvas?

I think its the original artists preference not ours.. thats just the way I see it.

What he said .............There is some grainy parts in band of brothers but the pq is still amazing

[SBrooks1]

Originally Posted by almy

The ongoing debate and posts about film grain seem to say it is OK and just a presentation of how a title may have been originally filmed and that digitally reducing said grain is almost a sin. So, I just watched a Blu disc entitles SUBLIME and I don't know if I was seeing grain, compression artifacts or some other "digital noise", but whatever, if this is an example of grain, then it is also a prime example of the occaisonal need for grain reduction. Anyone else seen it?

There is never an occasional need for grain reduction

[Marine Mike]

I'm going with:

Young Frankenstein

[VDogger]

It has got to be Total Recall.

[Meeklo]

Starship Troopers

[pitabun]

Bram Stoker's Dracula

[BLu-Balls]

Originally Posted by pitabun

Bram Stoker's Dracula

But it did look great though. pitabun, you look a lot like Phil Collins.

[Teabaggins]

I watched Mongol this weekend, good movie with lots of grain but it looked good. "good grain"

it also had the black bars of death but I didn't mind......

[SDon1969]

Originally Posted by Meeklo

Starship Troopers

I didn't really see much grain in this flick, myself...

I'd go with either Bram Stoker's Dracula, Robocop, Commando, Predator or Total Recall...

[eChopper]

how do we know what a director was thinking 20, 30 or 50 years ago??

How do we know , in every case,he even wanted coarse grain to appear on the final product??

i know of cases where budget constraints meant that a certain film stock was used or because of certain lighting conditions certain filmstock had to be used even though the end result was ghastly

decades ago no one knew what future film stocks would be like.

It is an assumption , or groveling to the "NO DNR" messiahs , that in every case we know for a fact that the DOP or director explicitly loved the look of grain any more than Robert Plant loved the sound of pops, hiss and crackles from vinyl . Its possible that coarse grain is a limitation of certain filmstocks and not necessarily what the director intended , despite what the clairvoyants on the internet claim.

My vote goes to Young Frankenstein. In this case Mel Brooks wanted the Universal look and went for a grainy film stock. I respect his decision but I wouldnt be using it for a demo to show off my home theatre

[HeavyHitter]

The original Rocky is very, very grainy.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by eChopper

how do we know what a director was thinking 20, 30 or 50 years ago??

How do we know , in every case,he even wanted coarse grain to appear on the final product??

i know of cases where budget constraints meant that a certain film stock was used or because of certain lighting conditions certain filmstock had to be used even though the end result was ghastly

decades ago no one knew what future film stocks would be like.

It is an assumption , or groveling to the "NO DNR" messiahs , that in every case we know for a fact that the DOP or director explicitly loved the look of grain any more than Robert Plant loved the sound of pops, hiss and crackles from vinyl . Its possible that coarse grain is a limitation of certain filmstocks and not necessarily what the director intended , despite what the clairvoyants on the internet claim.

My vote goes to Young Frankenstein. In this case Mel Brooks wanted the Universal look and went for a grainy film stock. I respect his decision but I wouldnt be using it for a demo to show off my home theatre

Don't you have your time machine set, I mean everyone knows the studios go back in time show the director the movie and ask them if that was there intent...

How else could they make such a powerful decision like that.

Im assuming they make the decision by over viewing the author's history, previous works etc... to determine the authors style to further iterate intent or purpose.

I can't say what the director intended I just have to place my blind faith into the studios to do whats best.

Personally as a creative person I am posed to defend authors intent... faithfully...

[eChopper]

I know , but releasing soft,really coarse grainy movies on Blu Ray is like releasing Caruso's earliest recordings on SACD

[RIPSeanTaylor21]

I hate to say this but.....


300

The Italian Job

[Lucy Diamond]

Good grain = 7th Voyage of Sinbad
(it is completely beautiful)

Bad Grain = Tomraider
(not really grain...more like digital noise..or maybe devil people trying to speak through the tv)


Wait though??? OP...do you not like grain??? It is perfectly normal to have it.

[Gremal]

House of Flying Daggers

[TheZoof]

Interview with the Vampire or Godfather had the most imho.