Dawn of the Dead (1978) - OUT OF PRINT

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by x5gb

Remember that the Japanese Blurays of both the Theatrical and Extended cuts are encoded in RGB PC Levels as opposed to RGB Video Level standard. A quick dip into the shaders of Mpc-BE and selecting 16-235 to 0-255 [SD] [HD] while watching on a htpc and they are like different movies with the deep blacks and colors I was expecting.
The Argento cut is not affected with this RGB problem but the master used is not in the best of shapes and looks the same as the other European Bluray versions available of that version.

Can you explain, how does this affect viewing them on an HDTV? What happens to the black levels if the blu-rays are encoded in RGB PC?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Can you explain, how does this affect viewing them on an HDTV? What happens to the black levels if the blu-rays are encoded in RGB PC?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=257809

[rickah88]

Queue the SF hate....oh wait, too late!

[PowellPressburger]

No this is something Scream can almost pull off. The encoding will still be very 2007 lol

[PowellPressburger]

No matter who is releasing the Dawn films to BLU I seriously don't think it is happening this year from any distributor. It is already nearly July it seems like word of the release would have already gotten out.

Unless whoever is doing the release aren't going all out on every version of the film and are possibly releasing one cut. It seems like they would need more time for a quality remaster / restoration work.

If Scream does get the release then I'm sure I will buy it as long as it is as good as they can do, that being said I'm getting sick of the new illustrated artworks being done on many of their releases. Dawn requires something a lot better more along the lines of the Ultimate DVD set.

[dvdwatcher]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dawn-...Blu-ray/99578/

It says region b only has this been verified? The 2 disc same locality is region free but I don't know if you can find it anymore.

[jlk5844]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Don't like it then don't buy it. I'm sure that most fans of the Dead series that collect Blu-rays will be delighted, and I'm even more certain that Scream Factory won't be affected by a few people nitpicking everything on Blu-ray.com.

It's not that simple, we want an outstanding transfer of Dawn of the Dead, not a passable to bad one.

[PowellPressburger]

Personally I wish Synapse could get distribution rights for Dawn of the Dead, even if they needed to do a kickstarter program for it I would drop some bills for it for sure.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

I hope Scream Factory puts out a box set of Night, Dawn and Day with the Japanese transfer of Night, a new remastered Dawn with the theatrical cut in 3D and 2D as well as the other cuts in HD, and Scream Factory's previous edition of Day.

Please have the box set art have a hand drawn collage of the most recognizable zombies and set pieces from all three movies, and have individual cases with original poster art and new art on the reversible side like with their Day release.

See if they can get Martin too and release it as a collector's edition to coincide with the release of the box set, or just do a huge Romero collection with Night, Dawn, Day, Martin, Knightriders, Monkey Shines and The Dark Half and have it be a limited edition like Nightbreed. Maybe they could do a collab with Anchor Bay and get their Romero titles like with the Halloween set.

This is something only Scream Factory can pull off so I hope that they have the rights.

Arrow could pull it off, and what is the point of the JP master if shout are encoding it?
It would look worse

[The Peanut Monkey]

I like the movie a lot on a casual level (fan in the loosest sense of 'fanatic'), but am not really au fait with disc details; I do know there's been a boatload of different releases through the years, be it EU/US cuts of the film (and soundtracks), extras, video/audio quality, etc. Considering the continued chatter I'm presuming there's no one, near-definitive Blu collection out there? Life's too short and money's too tight (or, as I said in the Hammer thread, I'm too lazy) to go hunting around for multiple sets. See also: Evil Dead.

[Davidian]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Got the Umbrella edition today, it looks like the Arrow master to my eyes, and it's probably not a coincidence it's got the same audio options (DTS-HD MA 5.1 + PCM 2.0) and the two audio commentaries, all encoded exactly the same as the Arrow. It's not the exact same disc as it's got its own extras, but the video encode may be the same one, I'll have to do a BDinfo scan on it.

Disc Title: DAWN OF THE DEAD
Disc Size: 38,175,692,884 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 32,880,589,248 bytes
Length: 2:07:03.616
Total Bitrate: 34.50 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 25000 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1880 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Can you explain, how does this affect viewing them on an HDTV? What happens to the black levels if the blu-rays are encoded in RGB PC?

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=257809

No Goofy, that's what happens when the PC to video conversion is applied twice over, what x5gb is referring to is when the PC to video conversion isn't applied at all, so the image looks extremely bright and washed out. Thankfully it can be corrected by setting the player to RGB full, although the bit depth is still reduced because the image has been encoded to disc too brightly.

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Isn't this quote regarding the 3D conversion an old one? I swear I've seen this quote forever ago.

The 3D conversion has been on the go for a good three years, I'll be amazed if it ever sees the light of day to be honest.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Davidian

Disc Title: DAWN OF THE DEAD
Disc Size: 38,175,692,884 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 32,880,589,248 bytes
Length: 2:07:03.616
Total Bitrate: 34.50 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 25000 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1880 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: English / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit

Nice one fella. The video bitrate is exactly the same as the Arrow. The PCM audio tracks are also exactly the same while the DTS-HD 5.1 is a little bit higher, 1880 kb/s versus 1698 kb/s on the Arrow.

[balthazar_bee]

Heck, unless I'm mistaken, there were rumblings about a 3D conversion six or seven years ago.

I agree...it's feeling more and more like pie in the sky.

Like most of you (I expect) I couldn't give a fig for 3D, but I'd sell the eyes out of my head for a new, properly handled transfer.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Heck, unless I'm mistaken, there were rumblings about a 3D conversion six or seven years ago.

I agree...it's feeling more and more like pie in the sky.

Like most of you (I expect) I couldn't give a fig for 3D, but I'd sell the eyes out of my head for a new, properly handled transfer.

Even more DNR yea!!

[StingingVelvet]

A new 3D transfer could end up like Jurassic Park, it doesn't necessarily mean a great looking version of the movie in 2D. Also I have no idea why I would want Scream to do it as a trilogy, since I already own great versions of Night and Day. I just want a better Dawn. Though I think the Anchor Bay version looks "fine" for this kind of movie.

My hope would be just a new modern scan of Dawn, no 3D bull, released by Arrow or Scream on its own.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Arrow could pull it off, and what is the point of the JP master if shout are encoding it?
It would look worse

Despite the fact that Scream Factory has put out the best version of Day on home video? Arrow's looks like crap because of the smeary, waxy textures and extreme cold look.

Arrow's Dawn of the Dead looks bad as well so they're 0-2 when it comes to the Dead movies, and Scream succeeded with their only Dead release.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Despite the fact that Scream Factory has put out the best version of Day on home video? Arrow's looks like crap because of the smeary, waxy textures and extreme cold look.

Arrow's Dawn of the Dead looks bad as well so they're 0-2 when it comes to the Dead movies, and Scream succeeded with their only Dead release.

To be fair Arrow was in its infancy then and have greatly improved across the board since.

I don't see a point in anyone release Night or Day again though on BD. All I want is Dawn.

[The Fallen Deity]

I'd love it if Arrow were to re-do Dawn & Day + do Night as well and release a super fancy trilogy set.

Arrow have come a long way since they released Dawn & Day on BD.

I'm sure that they would do a great job if were to re-do them.

I'd also love for them to do a transfer of Night that uses the same master as the Optimum BD release but isn't heavily cropped like that disc.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Since Night was shown theatrically in a widescreen format, more cropping may be required. Unless the current fullscreen version has already been cropped from the widescreen presentation.

Apparently 1:33.1 is the film's OAR and a new master was struck for the Optimum disc but for some reason it was heavily cropped.

No idea why it was cropped but it is.

Here's some good examples of what I'm on about regarding the cropping:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...less=1#auswahl