Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by Gardenofstone10

I could see that happening given how the unaltered versions also sold very well. However, look at what they're doing with Lord of the Rings. They announced the trilogy as theatrical versions and then waited until close to release to say that the extended cuts will probably come out next December or whenever the Hobbit is coming out. I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas is holding off for some BS excuse like that.

Well why wouldn't he? If I was in the position, I would do the same thing.

-You mean I can sell the same product TWICE with slight variations and many people will buy both?!?

Heck yeah! That is of course if he ever plans on releasing the unaltered versions. He could seriously only want the SE to be seen. That is up to him.

[Gardenofstone10]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Well why wouldn't he? If I was in the position, I would do the same thing.

-You mean I can sell the same product TWICE with slight variations and many people will buy both?!?

Heck yeah! That is of course if he ever plans on releasing the unaltered versions. He could seriously only want the SE to be seen. That is up to him.

He did say that's all he wants to do, but he's famous for changing his mind. Time will tell I guess.

[rexcrk]

Honestly I think it's a little silly of George to not release the original versions as well. I mean there IS money to be made there, with minimal effort lol.

[aiman04]

Uncle George's modus operandi has not changed, the plan is that he will self finance the new trilogy after he rakes in an expected $500 - $750 million dollars with the re-release of the entire Star Wars Saga in 3D and on Blu-Ray.

Seems like this blu-ray release has an unexpected purpose.

More here:

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com...news&Itemid=71

[Beast]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

Honestly I think it's a little silly of George to not release the original versions as well. I mean there IS money to be made there, with minimal effort lol.

I don't think it's silly at all. He doesn't see the point in wasting money to restore versions of the film that are inferior.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Uncle George's modus operandi has not changed, the plan is that he will self finance the new trilogy after he rakes in an expected $500 - $750 million dollars with the re-release of the entire Star Wars Saga in 3D and on Blu-Ray.

Seems like this blu-ray release has an unexpected purpose.

More here:

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com...news&Itemid=71

I really really don't see it happening. It seems more like fanboy speculation than anything.

[BellesPrince]

The only way there will be more movies is if Lucas relinquishes control to a younger director, and I don't see that happening. 7, 8 and 9 was only ever a vague notion he had of going back to the original cast years later when they were older, and that ship has sailed. If it's set further into the future, and moves away from the Skywalker story, then that effectively removes itself from being Star Wars.

But realistically, can you really see George Lucas taking on board another Star Wars Trilogy at his age???

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

Honestly I think it's a little silly of George to not release the original versions as well. I mean there IS money to be made there, with minimal effort lol.

Not exactly true. The original version as not been re-touch or remastered in 20 years now. If the Laserdisc and the last DVD release of them show anything, they are in need of serious work. Do you really think it cost them nothing to fix and re-work masters? Do you think the guys who work on this do this work for free out of the goodness of their hearts for the fans out there? The masters are probably in very bad shape. Now on a business side of things, why would he bother to spend that much money to make a few people (who will complaint anyway once it's done that it was not done to their own liking) happy?

Those that scream over and over for the originals seem to think that everyone out there want's them as well. Not the case at all. The rest of the world could care less about the original version of who shot first and was this sound change at 44 minutes 22 seconds. Of course he would release the special edition first, they need less work for restoration since they have been to major focus of the work for the past 15 years. They will sell well, very well. So why would he then spend more money to restore the old version so that 1 out of 50000 customers can buy it? Do you really think the majority of people would double dip on this? Not happening. We here double dip because we are nuts, crazy about movies. That being said, how many members are on Blu-ray.com? Do you really think we represent over 80% of the buying customers in the world? We are at most 5% of those paying customers if that. It's a business and they will do things in a way that they can make the most money by spending the least amount of money to achieve that goal. That is what a business do and the is what Lucasfilm will do.

[al cos.]

Wow, you read the free pamphlet for the business school at the learning annex too! Awesome.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by al cos.

Wow, you read the free pamphlet for the business school at the learning annex too! Awesome.

Wow. Way to dismiss a post that made some valid points! Tubular.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

Wow. Way to dismiss a post that made some valid points! Tubular.

It's the typical way most people who don't have a firm foundation for a counter-argument respond.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Beast

I don't think it's silly at all. He doesn't see the point in wasting money to restore versions of the film that are inferior.

It's very funny: on the one hand these guys say he's so greedy for making so many re-releases, and on the other hand they say he's business-dumb for leaving so much money on the table not re-releasing the version they want.

Some people have plainly made up their mind that no matter what he does, he's a jerk who just wants to make people unhappy and take their money.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

It's very funny: on the one hand these guys say he's so greedy for making so many re-releases, and on the other hand they say he's business-dumb for leaving so much money on the table not re-releasing the version they want.

Some people have plainly made up their mind that no matter what he does, he's a jerk who just wants to make people unhappy and take their money.

It's jealousy in a lot of cases I think. That's the only way that it would even seem to make sense.

[StereoMike]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

It's very funny: on the one hand these guys say he's so greedy for making so many re-releases, and on the other hand they say he's business-dumb for leaving so much money on the table not re-releasing the version they want.

Some people have plainly made up their mind that no matter what he does, he's a jerk who just wants to make people unhappy and take their money.

This thread should be locked and your post getting a sticky...

[al cos.]

The point is you can make the same argument about almost anything extra in home video. Trailers, documentaries, deleted scenes etc. It all ultimately adds very little to the average person's buying motivation. Nobody was going to boycott Blade Runner if it didn't have that 5th version. But they made the effort anyway. So why is it okay to critique the extras (or lack thereof) on any other movie but Star Wars brings out these hyper-defensive internet cops?

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by RudyC

it just ocurred to me why lucas didnt release the unaltered versions on dvd...

He did release them on DVD, in 2006.

he was so excited and happy with his new version that if he decided to give the fans the choice of which version to buy, then nobody would have bought the special editions..

On what statistical basis do you make that assertion? Seems to me there are absolutely no facts to support that one. Lots of people prefer the revisions, just not you.

"wahhh nobody saw my work"...

thats why we got screwed. maybe i have a glimmer..a new hope that with the bluray he is now satisfied that everyone on earth saw that turd so now maybe we'll get both versions

Who got screwed? Who are all these people that didn't get what they paid for?

Also, how does changing 1% of a movie (without changing the story at all) transform a gem into a turd? I would really like to see the logic presented for that one.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by al cos.

The point is you can make the same argument about almost anything extra in home video. Trailers, documentaries, deleted scenes etc. It all ultimately adds very little to the average person's buying motivation. Nobody was going to boycott Blade Runner if it didn't have that 5th version. But they made the effort anyway. So why is it okay to critique the extras (or lack thereof) on any other movie but Star Wars brings out these hyper-defensive internet cops?

And very few people are really going to boycott Star Wars, just because it doesn't have the original versions.

Most of the people who are arguing about it, either don't really care or simply hate Lucas for some reason.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Beast

It's jealousy in a lot of cases I think. That's the only way that it would even seem to make sense.

I mark it up to a disturbing celebrity-stalker mentality. People become so obsessed with a celebrity that they develop delusions of mutual loyalty and even ownership and control, and become unhinged when the object of their obsession doesn't intuitively follow their will, sometimes even reacting with violence... like that psycho that broke into Spielbergs house a few years back, and tried to kidnap him, burn his house down, and rape him.

I look at some of the language these people use, and it's pretty obvious to me. They feel like they are the "true fans", that Lucas has somehow changed, been co-opted by "false fans" to betray them, and associate ridiculous notions of persecution by the "false fans" and the "compromised Lucas". It's really very sad.

Some of these folks probably literally spent the 1990's writing fan faction versions of the PT, and just lost it when the real thing turned out different, and they've been venting their feelings of betrayal ever since.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

I mark it up to a disturbing celebrity-stalker mentality. People become so obsessed with a celebrity that they develop delusions of mutual loyalty and even ownership and control, and become unhinged when the object of their obsession doesn't intuitively follow their will, sometimes even reacting with violence... like that psycho that broke into Spielbergs house a few years back, and tried to kidnap him, burn his house down, and rape him.

I look at some of the language these people use, and it's pretty obvious to me. They feel like they are the "true fans", that Lucas has somehow changed, been co-opted by "false fans" to betray them, and associate ridiculous notions of persecution by the "false fans" and the "compromised Lucas". It's really very sad.

Some of these folks probably literally spent the 1990's writing fan faction versions of the PT, and just lost it when the real thing turned out different, and they've been venting their feelings of betrayal ever since.

Sounds about right.

Anyone with any grasp of reality knew that the Prequels could never live up to the hype.

I still think they're amazing movies though. As good as anything in the OT, if not better in some areas.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Beast

Sounds about right.

Anyone with any grasp of reality knew that the Prequels could never live up to the hype.

I still think they're amazing movies though. As good as anything in the OT, if not better in some areas.

No, everything after 1983 is complete garbage, it's a fact, Stinky told me so.