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Mavrick · 09-04-2011, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by double_l4488

Right, considering its the worst one, I doubt alot of people will pay the money for a 3-d showing, ending the whole thing.

Which is why I wish they would have started with the OT. At least to finally get a chance to see it on the big(er) screen. As I've only ever had the chance to see them at home

HeavyHitter · 09-04-2011, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Only if TPM is a huge finacial success. If it flops then it's not worth releasing the others.

Depends on what is a success. There is a large, strong core of Star Wars fans. They also know they need to support Phantom Menance in order for the other movies to have a good chance. My guess is it will make enough money.

nathan_393 · 09-04-2011, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by double_l4488

Right, considering its the worst one, I doubt alot of people will pay the money for a 3-d showing, ending the whole thing.

You kidding? The worst one is AOTC. I'll pay for TPM in theaters. I missed that when I was a kid; I was 8 at the time and my parents thought it would be too violent.

I hope that the 3D is a success - I'm looking forward to an opportunity to see these films in theaters, regardless of the depth of them.

HeavyHitter · 09-04-2011, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Which is why I wish they would have started with the OT. At least to finally get a chance to see it on the big(er) screen. As I've only ever had the chance to see them at home

Well, as we know, it's all about Lucas' vision and it starts with Ep. I.

Petyr_Baelish · 09-04-2011, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan_393

You kidding? The worst one is AOTC. I'll pay for TPM in theaters. I missed that when I was a kid; I was 8 at the time and my parents thought it would be too violent.

I hope that the 3D is a success - I'm looking forward to an opportunity to see these films in theaters, regardless of the depth of them.

Are you kidding? It's definitely the phantom menace that's the worst.

double_l4488 · 09-04-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Depends on what is a success. There is a large, strong core of Star Wars fans. They also know they need to support Phantom Menance in order for the other movies to have a good chance. My guess is it will make enough money.

There are alot star wars fans that will pay for anything, but even of the "core" there are some that don't like 3-d and especaily don't love TPM.

Maybe they should have started with ESB, guarantee people will pay the money. Pinning everything on TPM, big mistake. I doubt it will not do the money needed. Who would want to sit through Jar-jar in 3-d?

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It's definitely the phantom menace that's the worst.

By far.

gregmasciola · 09-04-2011, 05:47 AM

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I don't get it, what makes it look less real in your opinion?

It's hard to explain in words, but to me, the CGI Yoda just seems too flexible, if that makes sense. By that, I mean that stuff like his facial textures seem more like they're just a picture pasted on top of him. Also, with certain CG creatures, their movement isn't always believable when they're with a real person (they move too smoothly). I know to some the puppet in ESB and ROTJ might seem too stiff or lifeless at times, but to me that's just because he's supposed to be very old and tired, so he doesn't need to be able to move very quickly.

Petyr_Baelish · 09-04-2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by double_l4488

There are alot star wars fans that will pay for anything, but even of the "core" there are some that don't like 3-d and especaily don't love TPM.

Maybe they should have started with ESB, guarantee people will pay the money. Pinning everything on TPM, big mistake. I doubt it will not do the money needed. Who would want to sit through Jar-jar in 3-d?

By far.

Does the phantom menace even have a purpose? All it does is introduce a bunch of characters: most which don't even appear in the sequel.

nathan_393 · 09-04-2011, 05:56 AM

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Are you kidding? It's definitely the phantom menace that's the worst.

When I saw TPM I was a child incapable of true critical thinking.

A bit more maturity really changed the way I felt about AOTC. Like the OT, TPM is kind of a part of my childhood. The next two of the PT I could pass on, although ROTS certainly has its merits. But I've always disliked Christensen.

Petyr_Baelish · 09-04-2011, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan_393

When I saw TPM I was a child incapable of true critical thinking.

A bit more maturity really changed the way I felt about AOTC. Like the OT, TPM is kind of a part of my childhood. The next two of the PT I could pass on, although ROTS certainly has its merits. But I've always disliked Christensen.

No critical thinking is required to realize tpm is terrible.

42041 · 09-04-2011, 06:08 AM

TPM in 3D is going to tank. Does George really think he can rekindle the hype at this point? I know the Toy Story 3D reissues did merely okay-ish business back when it was much more novel, and people actually like those movies (and they don't need phony 3D conversions).

CodyCourtBlack2 · 09-04-2011, 06:13 AM

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TPM in 3D is going to tank. Does George really think he can rekindle the hype at this point? I know the Toy Story 3D reissues did merely okay-ish business back when it was much more novel, and people actually like those movies (and they don't need phony 3D conversions).

i've already given up on 3d.

deado · 09-04-2011, 06:22 AM

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i've already given up on 3d.

The problem is it's taking TOO long for glasses-less 3D to come around. I mean probably 2015 or later until we get some actual good glasses-less 3D sets? I know there are one or two out now but they probably suck.

EDIT: Wonder how good this will be....

mitch22 · 09-04-2011, 06:22 AM

As bad as TPM is, Clones is a lot worse. TPM is only hated more cause of the cartoon rabbit.

Mark Malmstrøm · 09-04-2011, 06:24 AM

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Luke training aboard the Millennium Falcon

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it means it controls your actions? - WHAT IS WRONG with the sound here - couldn't they sharp it ?

nathan_393 · 09-04-2011, 06:32 AM

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As bad as TPM is, Clones is a lot worse. TPM is only hated more cause of the cartoon rabbit.

That's how I feel - Clones is more focused, but I'll be honest, I'll take unfocused films over that terrible, shlocky, faux-romantic excuse for an action flick any day of the week. Dooku was a terrible villain, the entire plot about the clones felt forced and out of place, the romantic interactions were terrible, the action was predictable, Yoda was way less interesting as an action figure, and the effects were largely uninteresting.

While I'm not a big fan of TPM, I can still enjoy it on a child-like level.

Petyr_Baelish · 09-04-2011, 06:40 AM

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As bad as TPM is, Clones is a lot worse. TPM is only hated more cause of the cartoon rabbit.

Then I will raise you a AOTC is only hated, because of its soap operatic style. I would say I actually like AOTC. Maybe not in the same way as beast loves TPM, but I think its entertaining enough. It probably has the most action out of any of the movies and these are action movies. natalie portman looks pretty and there are some beautiful locations that the other star wars films do not have. I guess it appeals to me more on a visual level more than anything. However, unlike phantom menace which had like one interesting scene (the lightsaber fight), AOTC had that arena battle, the yoda fight and boba fett chase scene. Compared to the OT, maybe not ROTJ, none of the prequels are great, but they are still better than a movie like transformers which I can barely stay awake during.

The thing about the romance in AOTC is that george lucas isn't an expert writer. He could pretty much keep romantic dialogue to a minimum in the OT, but in the PT, the romance was essential to his plot and he couldn't have kept it to a couple of lines. The plot structures were less than stellar because he was writing something more complicated than he is capable of. The first star wars movie was stolen from the basic structure of a fairytale. Then he worked from there to form a basically simple plotline. With the prequels he felt he had to go bigger and in the process showed his true colors.

MacEachaidh · 09-04-2011, 06:42 AM

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Dooku was a terrible villain, the entire plot about the clones felt forced and out of place

Thanks for saying this, nathan. I thought I was the only one.

For me it was another example of the prequel films not meshing with the originals. When I finally saw Clones, I couldn't see anything that justified Luke's awe and excitement in New Hope when he said, "You fought in the Clone Wars?!" to Ben Kenobi. It was so pointless and anti-climactic, it just didn't seem like anything a restless farm boy could get excited about. Terrible writing, George.

Maggot · 09-04-2011, 06:48 AM

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i've already given up on 3d.

I never bought into it in the first place. Hokey looking as all get out.

octagon · 09-04-2011, 06:51 AM

Obviously it's not too surprising when people who don't care for the PT overall don't care for Clones but I'm still always a little surprised to see how many PT fans don't like it.

I've always thought it was fairly inoffensive and over the past few years have even come to think the good outweighs the bad.

More or less, anyway.

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09-04-2011, 06:08 AM	#26991
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	TPM in 3D is going to tank. Does George really think he can rekindle the hype at this point? I know the Toy Story 3D reissues did merely okay-ish business back when it was much more novel, and people actually like those movies (and they don't need phony 3D conversions).

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mitch22 Active Member Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:78 Trading Score:8	As bad as TPM is, Clones is a lot worse. TPM is only hated more cause of the cartoon rabbit.

09-04-2011, 06:51 AM	#27000
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	Obviously it's not too surprising when people who don't care for the PT overall don't care for Clones but I'm still always a little surprised to see how many PT fans don't like it. I've always thought it was fairly inoffensive and over the past few years have even come to think the good outweighs the bad. More or less, anyway.

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