Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Guydowood]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Amazing how in nearly 3000 pages nobody's had these complaints before

I find your lack of complaints disturbing.....

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Yep, and don't forget the TIE fighters that magically appear on screen when they first engage the rebel fleet in ROTJ.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That doesn't bother me as much, it's simply a goof in the compositing whereas those extant mattes are greatly exposed by transferring at the incorrect gamma. That's one thing that the new restoration should be able to mitigate quite well without any need for overt digital trickery.

It's not a compositing issue, it's the fact the motion control track only goes so far during filming. It's one of those "hopefully they won't notice with everything else going on" deliberate mistakes that were left in because of limitations of the technology (CGI objects can start and go back as far as needed).


They had the same probelm with the Emperor's arrival, the first quad of TIEs disappear towards the end of the shot, they fixed it in the SE by trimming the end of shot several frames. They had no such option except to digitally replace the fighters in the Endor battle.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

When I finished my marathon this past weekend I realized ROTJ is the one that really benefits the most from having seen Episodes I-III. That's when it all comes together, and so much of what transpires in the film has more weight to it when you know the backstory. The ending especially is, I thought, even more powerful when seen in the context of the saga and not just as the climax of the original trilogy.

So, I can finally see where you were coming from now.

Victory!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Good old mythical Ernest, I had no idea you were known on this side of the water too.

I think the last time the whole 'hatchet order' (or whatever it's called) thing came up I watched the films like this: IV, V, II, Clone Wars S6, III, VI. Heck of it is, I like Phantom Menace but it feels so detached from everything else that I've got no compunctions about dropping it from a saga viewing, and Clone Wars S6 fills in SO much of the plot that Lucas couldn't be arsed to fill in that I think it's essential (and it's still canon, kids!). Also, having Empire and Clones next to each other heightens the sense of 'rhyming' between the two, as does having Sith and Jedi next to each other, natch.

I don't even have a blog...damn press will make up anything. Seriously, that's the freaking Mirror...did the reporter call me? No. Try to contact me at all? No. They just made that up. The "Ernest Rister Order" was a post on a message board I tossed off as a lark back in 2005 or even earlier. Insane how something so inconsequential spread so quickly.

Still...thanks to the Mirror, when I have film debates with my wife now, I remind her I'm legendary mythical blogger Ernest Rister. Then she throws a shoe at me.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I like the revised CG Jabba, even the Greedo issue never bothered me like it did the rest of Star Wars fandom. As I said, even the Hayden force ghost doesn't bother me on a conceptual level. But man, the Blu-ray versions really were a facelift too far for Star Wars and Jedi, there's so much utterly unnecessary stuff added while goofs like the blatant garbage mattes in the space battle at the end of Jedi STILL go untouched. Boy, am I glad those Ewoks blink now though!

Am I evil for liking the blinking Ewoks?

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Victory!

Ahhh, Victory - YouTube

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

"No more training do you require. Already know you, that which you need."

"Except for how to block Force lightning...aah crap" *dies*

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Ahhh, Victory - YouTube

My tombstone...

Ernest Lee Rister III
Loving Husband
Devoted Son
Author and Historian
Said You Should Watch the Prequels Between Empire and Jedi

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

My tombstone...

Ernest Lee Rister III
Loving Husband
Devoted Son
Author and Historian
Said You Should Watch the Prequels Between Empire and Jedi

And He Should Burn In Hell For Liking The Blinking Ewoks

I keed, I keed. I'm the guy who likes the mk.II CG Jabba in Star Wars, for heaven's sake!

[fat_rancor_keeper]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

At least the horrible "Jedi Rocks" nonsense in Jabba's Palace is the easiest skip in the saga. Just press the "next chapter" button on your remote after Jabba says "Play that one again" and BLAM, they're suddenly interrupted by an explosion, followed by Chewbacca being brought in. Who cares if we don't establish the rancor eating the slave girl? I don't miss it, and I'm certainly never going to sit through "Jedi Rocks", or whatever its called.

That wont work for me...I NEED that slave girl scene.

As far as Greedo shooting first, on the most recent (3rd) fx pass in 2011 they cut out 10 frames so its about the same timing as the original shot, they do still both shoot but its over so fast you barely notice. They even seem to have smoothed out Han's awkward head movement a bit. The newest version of the controversial scene is tolerable.

[Arawn]

But still not good enough. They should have gone back to the original. George can't admit he ****ed up.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Ahhh, Victory - YouTube

I want a spinoff about those two.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I want a spinoff about those two.

Bloodsucker Bros.: A Star Wars Story

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And He Should Burn In Hell For Liking The Blinking Ewoks

I keed, I keed. I'm the guy who likes the mk.II CG Jabba in Star Wars, for heaven's sake!

The redone '04 version is a big improvement, but I'd still like to see it redone a second time with a Jabba that looks more like his ROTJ self. I guess that's never going to happen though, I can't see them bothering to tinker with the films even more, especially not now that Lucas is out of the picture.

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I want a spinoff about those two.

Maybe a Wolf of Wall Street-esque origin story?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Bloodsucker Bros.: A Star Wars Story

How about Stunted Slime?

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I think the simplest explanation is that if you're that powerful with the Force, you can choose to present your Force Ghost as whatever version you want. It's really not that big of a deal.

Thats how I look at it-- as a force ghost, you can probably appear in the form that you want. I just think of it as in the original version, Anakin chooses to appear to Luke as the older fatherly-figure, basically the face he saw behind the mask but complete and undamaged from his turn to the dark side.

And then in Lucas' "Saga" version, he appears as a mirror to Luke, as if to say "heres what I was like at around your age before I was turned." This version only works at all if you watch the prequels beforehand, either in Episode order or Machete Order.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

How about Stunted Slime?

Making It Legal: A Star Wars Story

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Making It Legal: A Star Wars Story

That sounds so wrong

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Thats how I look at it-- as a force ghost, you can probably appear in the form that you want. I just think of it as in the original version, Anakin chooses to appear to Luke as the older fatherly-figure, basically the face he saw behind the mask but complete and undamaged from his turn to the dark side.

And then in Lucas' "Saga" version, he appears as a mirror to Luke, as if to say "heres what I was like at around your age before I was turned." This version only works at all if you watch the prequels beforehand, either in Episode order or Machete Order.

Very good point sir! Even though I hate the way the scene was done it really made seeing young Anakin resonate a lot more for having just budged the prequels up against it, whereas Sebastian Shaw works just as well in isolation.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Making It Legal: A Star Wars Story

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That sounds so wrong

They've Gone Up the Ventilation Shaft: A Star Wars Story