Can One Scratch Ruin a Blu-ray Disc?

[TATE4US]

I had a salesman at a local eletronics store tell me if you get any scratches on the Blu-ray disk it is usless. Does anyone know anything about this?

[theknub]

well, IF you are able to scratch it... that is a POSSIBILITY

as with DVD's or CD's all scratches can create an issue and render the disc useless. however, blu-ray discs have a protective coating that prevents scratches very well. search the forums for more info.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I had a salesman at a local eletronics store tell me if you get any scratches on the Blu-ray disk it is usless. Does anyone know anything about this?

Tell the salesman he's an idiot and that the coating on a Blu-ray disc is over 100 times more scratch-proof than a DVD. The data is very close to the surface on a Blu-ray so it's necessary to have this hard coating.

Unless you use your Blu-ray discs to clean your pots and pans you should be just fine.

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Tell the salesman he's an idiot and that the coating on a Blu-ray disc is over 100 times more scratch-proof than a DVD. The data is very close to the surface on a Blu-ray so it's necessary to have this hard coating.

Unless you use your Blu-ray discs to clean your pots and pans you should be just fine.

Some salespeople are blithering idiots! In your case, your salesman sounds like one of them.
True, the data on a Blu-Ray disc is closer to the surface (than a DVD or CD) and also true is the far better protective coating on a Blu-Ray disc (than a DVD or CD). Trust me, I've read all about that months and months ago.

Jodi

[shido]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I had a salesman at a local eletronics store tell me if you get any scratches on the Blu-ray disk it is usless. Does anyone know anything about this?

That's ridiculous. Obviously, you wouldn't want to scratch any type of optical media, but 1 scratch will not ruin a Blu-ray disc, unless you actually tried to scrape it with your keys or something.

[SDK]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I had a salesman at a local eletronics store tell me if you get any scratches on the Blu-ray disk it is usless. Does anyone know anything about this?

I recently ordered Stealth, during delivery the disc somehow has been locked with booklet holders resulting to two scratches from them. The most irritating part was that the center fixing button was holding the disc as well, so these three holding sets didn't give you a chance to open the box in a simple way. The result are two scratches at outer circle, I hope this won't stop the playback... will report as I get something to play it on. For now, i'd recommend to deliver the Stealth in a single two-four discs shipments when there is no empty place in the package

[TATE4US]

Yes, i thought the salesman was wrong also. The reason i asked that question was because i have a ps3 and was trying to make a choice if i should sell or go with the xbox 360.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

Yes, i thought the salesman was wrong also. The reason i asked that question was because i have a ps3 and was trying to make a choice if i should sell or go with the xbox 360.

As a gamer, if you're not a PC gamer, you're probably going to want to have both systems.

Personally, I sold my Xbox360 because I was barely playing it and I knew the PS3 was going to be appreciably better, and it is.

I'm primarily a PC gamer anyways, so the PS3 is what I use for BD playback and games that I can't get on the PC pretty much.

The 360 is a nice system, but in my case, it literally was the odd man out.

That salesman fed you a line of BS, by the way.

[GoldenRedux]

Edited title for clarification.

[TATE4US]

JTK,

Have you had any problems with your ps3?

[Hollywood__]

Are you kidding me? Calling a salesman an idiot for telling you a scratch can ruin your disc, of course it will. Blu_Ray discs are not made of some Superman armor, they scratch just like anything else.

Just because you hear about one salesman saying something bad about about Blu_ray and you all flip out.

I own a BD player (PS3), I bought it for gaming only. I gave seen both formats in action and HD-DVD is still superior. For an HD format, Blu_Ray has a lot of artifacts in the picture, I am not impressed.

[GoldenRedux]

Originally Posted by Hollywood__

Are you kidding me? Calling a salesman an idiot for telling you a scratch can ruin your disc, of course it will. Blu_Ray discs are not made of some Superman armor, they scratch just like anything else.

That's all true, but have you actually scratched one and ruined it beyond playability?

I own a BD player (PS3), I bought it for gaming only. I gave seen both formats in action and HD-DVD is still superior.

Sure, and every HD DVD is perfect. Please. What planet are you living on? Both formats use the same codecs. Both formats have titles that use the exact same transfers. Both formats have titles with lots of artifacts or little to no artifacts.

For an HD format, Blu_Ray has a lot of artifacts in the picture, I am not impressed.

Apparently you're stuck in a time warp and you're still back in Summer '06. Apparently you haven't seen Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down, One Last Thing, Tears of the Sun, MI:III or Reds and so on and so forth, etc., etc. because they have been pretty much universally heralded. Maybe you need something other than Talledega Nights for your PS3.

[TATE4US]

I Am Not Talking About A Deep Scratch.yes, That Will Messup Any Disk. I Am Talking About Small Surface Scratches.


LETS ALL FLIP OUT

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I Am Not Talking About A Deep Scratch.yes, That Will Messup Any Disk. I Am Talking About Small Surface Scratches.


LETS ALL FLIP OUT

I believe that the salesman was incredibly misinformed, but there is a small truth in what he was saying, though doubt even he realised. BDs have data incredibly close to the surface of the disc, and a small surface scratch could interfere with the track, but with the hard coating that is used on all BDs the chances of even getting a small surface scratch are slim at best.

The problem with salesmen is that they are not up to date with any of the latest developments in the industry that they 'specialise' in, BB or CC just don't give them the training. The same problem exists here in the UK as well, I went into a Dixons (similar to BB) and had a chat with the TV specialist, when i asked him about Sony's latest range of TVs i.e. the XBR and SXRD range and why they don' have any in stock, he looked me blankly in the face and told me that all Sony TVs were by far worse than anything they had in the store (they stock LG and all sorts of other crap). He then went on to tell me that Sony backs loser formats and that they would not be supporting BD throughout their chain nationwide. One week later Samsung's BD player comes in and they sold out within 2 days!

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

One week later Samsung's BD player comes in and they sold out within 2 days!

Haha. You are right with that.

That is a neat way to backfire against salespeople who spread FUD & misinformation.

Then some (some, not all) UK and European salesman would say that Blu-ray is a loser format and HD-DVD is the cheapest and best way to go.

Umm...yeah right.
Blu-ray is still in the lead in UK and entire European union/continent over HD-DVD. Heck, Samsung and Pioneer sent their players out first before Toshiba delayed them twice before releasing the HD-E1 and HD-XE1 players.

And after being the first to release titles, Blu-ray still maintains the lead over there in your area.

How can they spread FUD now?

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I Am Not Talking About A Deep Scratch.yes, That Will Messup Any Disk. I Am Talking About Small Surface Scratches.

The required hard coating should make any scratching much more difficult. Perhaps casual scratches due to equipment and not handling nicely maybe a thing of the past with BD.

If it does get a scratch, it might be a problem. But, the ECC is much more robust on BD (and HD DVD) than DVD, so the problems can be corrected better than before.

Small surface scratches on the hard coat maybe difficult to achieve. I suspect we need to wait to see reports from the field. Let little Jane/Johnny loose on a Disney title and see what happens.

Gary

[TATE4US]

Can You Use The Universal Game Skin Covers On Blu-ray Disk? I Have A Little Johnny Thats Really Looking Fwd To Playing Our Ps3 For Christmas.

[Blu-ray San]

Originally Posted by TATE4US

I had a salesman at a local eletronics store tell me if you get any scratches on the Blu-ray disk it is usless. Does anyone know anything about this?

I've come to realize over the past month you can not trust anyone when asking PS3/Bluray related questions. Especially at EBgames / Gamestop.
These dumb-a$$ employees seem to all-of-a-sudden be against anything Sony and advise you to get a Xbox 360 and/or HD-DVD player.

Last time I checked, there is nothing wrong with any Playstation 3's or Blu-ray players besides the frequent delays and much needed firmware updates.

My advise is if anymore salespeople tell you come across start giving you wrong information about blu-ray and bash the PS3, just walk out of the store and don't even look back

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray San

I've come to realize over the past month you can not trust anyone when asking PS3/Bluray related questions. Especially at EBgames / Gamestop.
These dumb-a$$ employees seem to all-of-a-sudden be against anything Sony and advise you to get a Xbox 360 and/or HD-DVD player.

Last time I checked, there is nothing wrong with any Playstation 3's or Blu-ray players besides the frequent delays and much needed firmware updates.

My advise is if anymore salespeople tell you come across start giving you wrong information about blu-ray and bash the PS3, just walk out of the store and don't even look back

yeah i know what you mean with the part i highlighted my employees are always bashing me just because im not into Xbox 360 or Hd-dvd and yet they brag to me that all of them have a 360 but me

[cruisyeyes]

I was just thinking of the video WickyWoo posted when I read this thread, weird. Also, it is weird that the surface of a Blu-ray is much smoother than a DVD and the edges are not a rough, is there a reason for this? It almost feels like silk, or a slick surface.