I'm someone who prefers the OT puppets compared to PT CGI by far, but the PhantomMenace Yoday puppet never looked right or good. Replacing him was a good move.
If only Christensen had been replaced by a puppet...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hayden's performance. The character is written abysmally. There was no way to be "good" in that role. The character was written as an unlikable whiny crap head, and Hayden did that perfectly.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hayden's performance. The character is written abysmally. There was no way to be "good" in that role. The character was written as an unlikable whiny crap head, and Hayden did that perfectly.
It's not his acting people hate.
Seriously? Have you ever watched him in anything other than SW? His entire range is pouty, angry, and unbelievable. I've seen high school plays acted by more talented players than him.
In the case of HC in SW it's both the screenwriting and the actor himself. He really is that bad.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hayden's performance. The character is written abysmally. There was no way to be "good" in that role. The character was written as an unlikable whiny crap head, and Hayden did that perfectly.
It's not his acting people hate.
Nah, his acting was dreadful but being poorly directed probably didn't help.
Seriously? Have you ever watched him in anything other than SW? His entire range is pouty, angry, and unbelievable. I've seen high school plays acted by more talented players than him.
In the case of HC in SW it's both the screenwriting and the actor himself. He really is that bad.
Yes, I have. I don't care about his other roles. I'm talking about this specific role. His acting was spot on for Anakin. Anakin is a terrible character, and HC gave the perfect performance of him.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hayden's performance. The character is written abysmally. There was no way to be "good" in that role. The character was written as an unlikable whiny crap head, and Hayden did that perfectly.
It's not his acting people hate.
He also bad in Jumper and some surgery horror flick. Always seemed afraid to show any range or emotion. Bad sign for an actor.
He also bad in Jumper and some surgery horror flick. Always seemed afraid to show any range or emotion. Bad sign for an actor.
When he's not speaking, just acting with his eyes, he did a pretty good job in Revenge of the Sith. He looked like he was actually turning to the Dark Side.
The dialogue that was written for him in the movies were crap, but when he wasn't speaking, it was pretty good. Like in the scene at the Jedi Temple, when he was looking out the window and thinking of Padmé, he conveyed the unspoken message pretty well.
It's intimidation in who will strike first. Like in a sword fight or a martial artists twirling their bo staffs. I see nothing wrong with the shot.
Now we're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
The prequels have problems as we all know. But not EVERYTHING is terrible. Come on.
Anyway, aren't we all bored with prequel discussions after 10 years? I'll say this, the trilogy will never be forgotten I guess so in that way it lives on forever.
and martial artists wouldn't twirl their staffs in a real fight either. most of that "intimidation" and "fake-out" stuff like that would never actually fly. the move leaves the spinner completely open and is something no sword fighter would do in their right mind. I've been doing martial arts and sword techniques for 20 years and that type of stuff would be laughed out of existence in anything but a show kata
Sorry, but I am not buying this. I don't care for the books. Only the movies count for me. This sounds utterly ridiculous to me.
unfortunately much of the EU books were LIGHT YEARS better than the prequel trilogy. it's sad that so many great ideas and plots were created there and it just shows just how pedestrian the scripts for the PT were in comparison
and martial artists wouldn't twirl their staffs in a real fight either. most of that "intimidation" and "fake-out" stuff like that would never actually fly. the move leaves the spinner completely open and is something no sword fighter would do in their right mind. I've been doing martial arts and sword techniques for 20 years and that type of stuff would be laughed out of existence in anything but a show kata
Lightsabers in general make little sense. If you have the power of the Force, use it and make your enemy explode or something. Would you rather spend 20 minutes sword fighting someone, or would you rather spend 2 seconds to Force rip their heart out of their chest? (or if you want to be clean, Force choke them until hey die from lack of oxygen)
and martial artists wouldn't twirl their staffs in a real fight either. most of that "intimidation" and "fake-out" stuff like that would never actually fly. the move leaves the spinner completely open and is something no sword fighter would do in their right mind. I've been doing martial arts and sword techniques for 20 years and that type of stuff would be laughed out of existence in anything but a show kata
Yeah, and you don't get fireballs in space, or sounds, or ships that maneuver like jet fighters. What's your point again?
It would appear that many Jedi weren't very good at using the force, or light sabers for that matter. That or their enemies were just miles ahead when it come to being one with the force, and being combat ready.
Yep. A movie about a guy who steals mystical objects filled with powers, and defeats a platoon's worth of Nazis by himself...all within a competently written and believable script, good dialogue, good casting, acting, directing, likable characters, memorable lines, etc.
Imgine that.
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It would appear that many Jedi weren't very good at using the force, or light sabers for that matter.
I want to know why the things even have buttons on them.
[Show spoiler]Yep. A movie about a guy who steals mystical objects filled with powers, and defeats a platoon's worth of Nazis by himself...all within a competently written and believable script, good dialogue, good casting, acting, directing, likable characters, memorable lines, etc.
Imgine that.
I want to know why the things even have buttons on them.
Star Wars Digital Release Review from the Front Page:
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The transfers used to produce the digital copies of all six films are virtually identical to the transfers used to produce the The Complete Saga's September 2011 Blu-ray release. No additional remastering or notable alterations are present. The resulting AV quality of each film -- at least by lower bit-rate digital standards -- is generally excellent, although the same source-based shortcomings that haunt the BD versions of Episode I and Episode II are as noticeable as ever. The digital files are approximately 4 to 4.5 GB per film as well, meaning the presentations, while impressive in their own right, aren't as impressive as their Blu-ray counterparts. Still, fans looking for yet another way to watch Star Wars will be pleased with the final product and, aside from an uptick in compression artifacts, will feel their money and time have been well spent.
The Stars Wars films also arrive with numerous extras, some of which are exclusive to the saga's digital debut. The content, exclusive or otherwise, includes everything from documentaries to deleted/alternate scenes to a variety of other surprises. The films' special features break down as follows:
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Star Wars: Episode I - The PhantomMenace
Conversations: Doug Chiang Looks Back (HD, 5:23) - The PhantomMenace's design director, Doug Chiang, describes five guiding principles of design he applied to his work on the film.
Discoveries from Inside: Models & Miniatures (HD, 4:17) - Author/executive editor JW Rinzler interviews model ship supervisor Steve Gawley and model shop supervisor Lorne Peterson, touching on the small and large-scale models utilized during production of the first Star Wars prequel.
The Beginning (SD, 1:06:15) - Clocking in at more than an hour, this fly-on-the-wall production documentary delves into the development and principle photography of the film, starting with storyboards and staff meetings and moving through script discussions, the casting process (complete with audition footage), the newly casted Jedi choosing their lightsabers, a visit from Steven Spielberg, dressing sets and locations, dealing with severe weather and other challenges, filming against blue screen, voice recording for the various characters, editing, the many stages of visual effects, and much more.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
The Podrace: Theatrical Edit (12:28)
Bail Organa of Alderaan (0:17)
Complete Podrace Grid Sequence (7:01)
Anakin's Scuffle with Greedo (0:58)
Trash-Talking Droids (0:28)
Anakin's Return (0:18)
Battle on the Boarding Ramp (0:20)
Extended Podrace Lap Two (3:56)
The Waterfall Sequence (1:47)
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Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Conversations: Sounds in Space (HD, 6:19) - Sound mixers Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood sit down at Skywalker Ranch to chat about their contributions to the sonics of Star Wars and share stories as to how they created several iconic effects.
Discoveries from Inside: Costumes Revealed (HD, 4:34) - A look at the costumes of the Star Wars saga with JW Rinzler and collections & exhibits senior manager Laela French, who gives Rinzler a chance to see Boba Fett's helmet, Han Solo's brown Hoth coat, a Tusken Raider robe and mask, Leia's Cloud City dress, some of Padme's gowns, Jedi robes, and Darth Vader's armor.
From Puppets to Pixels: Digital Characters in Episode II (SD, 52:21) - George Lucas and his team turn to then cutting-edge digital technology and effects to create, well, everything, including several completely CG characters, in this hour-long production documentary.
State of the Art: The Previsualization of Episode II (SD, 23:28) - Lucas, Burtt and the FX wizards of ILM provide an overview of the previsualization process, which was crucial in tackling the sprawling action sequences in Episode II.
Films are Not Released, They Escape (SD, 25:39) - Burtt and other members of the sound design team pull back the curtain on the sound recordings, effects, ADR, foley recroding, and music of Episode II.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
Raid on the Droid Control Ship & Extended Arena Fight (3:54)
Padme's Parents' House (2:19)
Dooku Interrogates Padme (1:01)
Anakin's Nightmares (0:59)
Jedi Temple Analysis Room (1:03)
Obi Wan & Mace: Jedi Landing Platform (1:51)
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Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Conversations: The Star Wars that Almost Was (HD, 5:04) - Film historians and writers JW Rinzler and Pablo Hidalgo examine the original draft of A New Hope and reveal alternate versions of key characters and events in Lucas' initial vision.
Discoveries from Inside: Holograms & Bloopers (HD, 3:21) - Rinzler and film archivist Monica Chin-Perez dig into the Lucasfilm Archives, where dailies, work prints, blooper reels, and other materials are preserved.
Within a Minute: The Making of Episode III (SD, 1:18:00): Lucas and producer Rick McCallum lead the charge on this Revenge of the Sith documentary, delivering a candid overview of the film's production and taking particular time to introduce key players, artists and technicians in each stage and department.
The Journey, Parts 1 & 2 (SD, 12:34): From the film's final shot to its premiere and beyond, the cast and crew of Episode III reflect on their experiences and reminisce about their contributions to the Star Wars universe.
ILM Episode III: Siggraph Reel (SD, 4:05) - A visual effects breakdown montage.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
Yoda Communes with Qui-Gon (0:52)
Grievous Slaughters a Jedi / Escape from the General (2:45)
Seeds of Rebellion (0:57)
Exiled to Dagobah (0:37)
Anakin Kills Shaak Ti (0:29)
A Plot to Destroy the Jedi (0:56)
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Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
Conversations: Creating a Universe (HD, 8:25) - Episode IV art director Joe Johnston meets Episode IV set dresser and Episode I & VI second unit director Roger Christian for the first time in yet another conversation exclusive to the saga's digital release. The two swap stories and experiences, talking about their work with Lucas, building the Millennium Falcon, their contributions to various aspects of the productions, and more.
Discoveries from Inside: Weapons & The First Lightsaber (HD, 3:14) - Rinzler interviews Christian, who shows off a handful of original Episode IV props, including Han Solo's blaster, the stormtroopers' guns, the Tusken Raiders' gaffe sticks, and, of course, Luke's lightsaber.
Anatomy of a Dewback (SD, 26:16): A look at the process of turning the rubber puppet dewbacks of the original trilogy into moving CGI creatures for the special edition release of A New Hope.
Star Wars Launch Trailer (SD, 1:09): An original theatrical trailer.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
Tosche Station (5:14)
Aunt Beru's Blue Milk (0:23)
The Search for R2-D2 (0:35)
Cantina Rough-Cut (7:09)
Old Woman on Tatooine (0:16)
Stormtrooper Search (0:46)
Darth Vader Widens the Search (0:26)
Alternate Biggs & Luke Reunion (0:28)
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Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Conversations: The Lost Interviews (HD, 9:31) - "The Lost Interviews" features a series of never-before-heard audio interviews with the cast and crew of A New Hope, along with rare behind-the-scenes photos and footage.
Discoveries from Inside: Matte Paintings Unveiled (HD, 4:42) - Artist and matte painter Harrison Ellenshaw laments the lost art of matte painting, examines some of his original work, and briefly details the elegant techniques used to make a matte painting convincing.
A Conversation with the Masters (HD, 25:11) - This 2010 retrospective will probably be of most interest to fans, as it features George Lucas, the late Irvin Kershner, Lawrence Kasdan, and John Williams looking back on The Empire Strikes Back.
Dennis Muren: How Walkers Walk (SD, 1:54) - A vintage featurette narrated by Muren.
George Lucas on Editing The Empire Strikes Back (SD, 3:24) - A 1979 interview with Lucas.
George Lucas on The Force (SD, 5:19): In this 2010 interview, Lucas expounds upon the greater meaning and implications of the Force, its light and dark halves, and its importance to the resonance of Star Wars.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
Han and Leia: Extended Echo Base Argument (1:35)
Wampa Attacks (2:35)
Yoda's Test (1:13)
Hiding in the Asteroid (0:58)
Alternate Han and Leia Kiss (1:51)
Lobot's Capture (0:49)
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Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi
Conversations: The Effects (HD, 9:33) - I only wish this engaging roundtable discussion were longer. ILM creative director Dennis Muren, monster shop supervisor Phil Tippett, ILM chief creative officer and senior visual effects supervisor John Knoll, and visual effects supervisor Roger Guyett shoot the breeze about all things FX, touching on the personal aspects of their careers, their earliest encounters with Lucas, the things that drew them into the world of visual effects, their favorite shots and sequences, and more.
Discoveries from Inside: The Sounds of Ben Burtt (HD, 5:21) - Ben Burtt reveals the origin of the most unforgettable sounds of Star Wars, among them R2-D2's warbling and beeping, the hum and clash of lightsabers, and Darth Vader's breathing.
Classic Creatures (SD, 48:02) - A vintage exploration of the menagerie of Star Wars creatures, compared to and contrasted against the grand tradition of movie monsters hosts by Carrie Fisher and Billy Dee Williams.
Revenge of the Jedi Teaser Trailer (SD, 1:27) - A trailer with an early title card.
Return of the Jedi Launch Trailer (SD, 1:30) - A second trailer.
TV Spots (SD, 0:49) - "It Began" and "Climactic Chapter" TV spots.
Deleted/Alternate Scenes:
Vader's Arrival and Reaching Out to Luke (2:42)
Tatooine Sandstorm (2:07)
Rebel Raid on the Bunker (2:14)
Battle of Endor: The Lost Rebels (9:32)
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