Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[steve1971]

I think Revenge Of The Sith is very good and next to Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi its my all time favorite Star Wars movie.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by zachnix18

Reading all of this Star Wars hate makes me so sad. I think all six films are absolute quality entertainment. I think Return of the Jedi is the best of the six, along with A New Hope and Revenge of the Sith being the next best. I'm sorry, but the prequels are not bad, just simply flawed. Everyone is too critical of this stuff. George worked so darn hard to give us these prequels and everyones hatred has put a huge damper on the word Star Wars. YOU guys have ruined what is so great. Seriously, I've seen the prequels as many times as I have seen the originals, and I think they're all really fun movies. Same with Indy Jones 4, great great flick.

I'm sorry, but if you like the movies, why care what anyone else thinks of them?

Oh, and because Lucas worked hard on it, he should be impervious to criticism? That's not really how it works. If someone doesn't want to get criticized, he should not make movies and bring them to audiences.

[miniroll32]

Originally Posted by zachnix18

George worked so darn hard to give us these prequels...

Did he? From what I can tell, the prequels read like he never even proof checked the scripts. How can you mistake the Jedi council of existing "for over a thousand years" when in a movie he shot over 20-years earlier, they had existed "for over a thousand generations". Big difference, y'know.

[Gold Ranger]

The thousand years refers to that specific Era's Constitution.
The Jedi has served a thousand Generations worth's of Constitutions.

[GC13]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

The thousand years refers to that specific Era's Constitution.
The Jedi has served a thousand Generations worth's of Constitutions.

You refer to the Ruusan Reformation, an attempt by expanded universe writers to retcon this discrepancy.

[KubrickFan]

That's actually what I love about Star Wars. For every error in the movies, there's an expanded universe explanation .

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

How can you mistake the Jedi council of existing "for over a thousand years"

Where is that said in any of the movies?

[Aquel]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

That's actually what I love about Star Wars. For every error in the movies, there's an expanded universe explanation .

And it gets even better when the explanations contradict themselves . Sometimes they are useful and fill in the gaps, but on other occassions..

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Did he? From what I can tell, the prequels read like he never even proof checked the scripts. How can you mistake the Jedi council of existing "for over a thousand years" when in a movie he shot over 20-years earlier, they had existed "for over a thousand generations". Big difference, y'know.

Why don't you bring up the Kessel Run "in less than 12 parsecs" thing instead

Who cares anyway, and a thousand generations *is* over a thousand years...

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Who cares anyway, and a thousand generations *is* over a thousand years...

It's quite a big gap, though. "I'll see you in a year" isn't quite the same as "I'll see you in a generation" .

[cheld]

Originally Posted by zachnix18

Reading all of this Star Wars hate makes me so sad. I think all six films are absolute quality entertainment. I think Return of the Jedi is the best of the six, along with A New Hope and Revenge of the Sith being the next best. I'm sorry, but the prequels are not bad, just simply flawed. Everyone is too critical of this stuff. George worked so darn hard to give us these prequels and everyones hatred has put a huge damper on the word Star Wars. YOU guys have ruined what is so great. Seriously, I've seen the prequels as many times as I have seen the originals, and I think they're all really fun movies. Same with Indy Jones 4, great great flick.

Actually he worked too darn hard, by taking complete ownership of the projects. At a minimum he needed to relinquish scriptwriting duties to replicate some of the lighter touches of the OOT.

[monkeyjb1988]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

That's actually what I love about Star Wars. For every error in the movies, there's an expanded universe explanation .

Close to my feelings, where I'm impressed by everyone having a story. Definitely helps build the world. Highly recommend Shadows of the Empire.

[Snowmaker]

Originally Posted by monkeyjb1988

Highly recommend Shadows of the Empire.

That was good, but nothing beats the first 3 Timothy Zahn books from the early 90's. Those are what resparked my love of SW.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

It's quite a big gap, though.

It's a non question since nobody said in the movies that the Jedi Coucil existed for over a thousand years.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Roonan

It's a non question since nobody said in the movies that the Jedi Coucil existed for over a thousand years.

Wasn't it the Republic?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Roonan

It's a non question since nobody said in the movies that the Jedi Coucil existed for over a thousand years.

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

Wasn't it the Republic?

They're arguing over these lines:

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic" - Obi-Wan to Luke in A New Hope.

"I will not allow this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years, be split in two" - Chancellor Palpatine to Padme and the Jedi in his office in Attack of the Clones.

So they're basically taking Lucas to task over something Palpatine said.

Granted Lucas wrote both lines but there's 2 different people saying this here. If it had been Obi-Wan who turned around and said "A thousand years" then I'd see some of the fuss. Palpatine is a politician making a dramatic statement for his audience, none of which is about to stop and correct him. Not to get political here but when President Obama told the press that he had campaigned in 57 states plus one to go nobody corrected him to his face (he meant 47).

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

They're arguing over these lines:

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of the Old Republic" - Obi-Wan to Luke in A New Hope.

"I will not allow this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years, to be split in two" - Chancellor Palpatine to Padme and the Jedi in his office in Attack of the Clones.

So they're basically taking Lucas to task over something Palpatine said.

Well Lucas wrote what Palpatine said, so there!

Seriously though, of all the filmmaking and storytelling problems of the prequels to discuss, this minor continuity discrepancy shouldn't even be a microscopic blip on the radar. That's like being on the Titanic while it's sinking and complaining that the toilet in your room is backed up.

[The Dragon]

[fat_rancor_keeper]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Well Lucas wrote what Palpatine said, so there!

Seriously though, of all the filmmaking and storytelling problems of the prequels to discuss, this minor continuity discrepancy shouldn't even be a microscopic blip on the radar. That's like being on the Titanic while it's sinking and complaining that the toilet in your room is backed up.

Agreed.

[starman15317]

Well, this is my first time posting in this thread, so let me just say something that hopefully hasn't been said too much. WHERE'S THE ORIGINAL VERSIONS OF THE TRILOGY ON BLU-RAY?!?!