Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Mr. Lucas does not own the SW franchise. LucasFilm does. Lucas owned LucasFilm, wanted to retire, saw how Disney treated Pixar after the Disney/Pixar merger, and was impressed. Saw how Disney treated Marvel and was impressed. Decided to trust Disney with LucasFilm. Made a deal, gave a whole lot money to educational causes.

He is still a consultant to LucasFilm, and probably will be until the day he dies. But he no longer has control or ownership over the Star Wars films. They were always owned by LucasFilm, LucasFilm will now dictate what happens to them. I predict Kathleen will release the original versions, next year, if for no other reason than to build goodwill heading into Episode VII.

I hope your prediction comes true. I would like to think Disney doesn't mind working with Fox to release them...OR, better yet we read that Disney has sent another Billion over to Fox for distribution rights.

[Batmon77]

So the Complete Saga Box (the separate sets) still in my local stores, means what to this prediction?

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

So the Complete Saga Box (the separate sets) still in my local stores, means what to this prediction?

Not much if they don't print any more copies or very few. if they're phased out they will also be sold at discounted prices.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

So the Complete Saga Box (the separate sets) still in my local stores, means what to this prediction?

AFAIK, absolutely nothing. If the UOT is released, then I would expect the 2011 release to be marked down in price considerably.

[cinemaphile]

Means nothing. With some series there are multiple different collections in store even at the same time.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by rickah88

AFAIK, absolutely nothing. If the UOT is released, then I would expect the 2011 release to be marked down in price considerably.

There will be no major markdowns. Theyll leave them as is or send them back to Fox.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Here's how I would watch the Original Star Wars Trilogy in 4K if both versions come out next year.

Star Wars (Original)
Empire Stikes Back (Latest)
Return of the Jedi (Original)

If Han shoots first in IV and Hayden is removed from VI, I would watched the latest version of each in 4K until the cows come home! What about you?

I'd still love to have the 1997 versions but I don't mind the 2004 editions at all, in fact I like most of the new new changes like the updated CG Jabba (being the one person on Earth who likes that scene) and the seamless set extension in the Death Star cell bay. Even Hayden I can tolerate because I do actually like the prequels, and I've started to get used to seeing him there and hearing Tem Morrison's voice as Boba Fett.

But the 2011 iterations are a new level of stupid, like Artoo's magical disappearing rock and the horrid new call when Obi-Wan frightens off the sand people. Empire, once again, seems to have gotten off lightly, but the stuff in Jedi is utterly useless. There was no need to make Jabba's entrance bigger (ahem) or to add CG to Artoo's freakout at the bunker or to add a crappy CG Dug into Jabba's palace. The blinking Ewoks was something they tried to do during the actual production but they couldn't get it to work, so obviously it always niggled Lucas, fair enough. But Vader's 'Nooooo......NOOOOOOOOOOO!' is even goofier than the one in Revenge of the Sith and it really does ruin one of the most pivotal scenes in the entire saga.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I hope your prediction comes true. I would like to think Disney doesn't mind working with Fox to release them...OR, better yet we read that Disney has sent another Billion over to Fox for distribution rights.

Or LucasFilm signs a limited theatrical distribution deal with Fox for the new trilogy in exchange for final rights to the original Star Wars film...unless that hasn't already happened with the Prequel deals in the late 90's. Not up on who owns the rights to the fist Star Wars. But Fox getting the third trilogy distribution monies for a limited time would please fans, as they'd get their Fox fanfare before the films started. And at the end of the contract, LucasFilm would finally own everything related to Star Wars.

Distribution isn't ownership, by the way. Distribution simply means booking theaters and sending prints and the distributor takes a cut of the grosses. The big studios own their own distribution arms -- Walt Disney and Roy Disney created their own after growing frustrated with RKO, Lucas never created his own distribution company.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But Vader's 'Nooooo......NOOOOOOOOOOO!' is even goofier than the one in Revenge of the Sith and it really does ruin one of the most pivotal scenes in the entire saga.

Oh right, I hate that too! Tho the first "no," is acceptable to me. Still silence is golden!

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Here's how I would watch the Original Star Wars Trilogy in 4K if both versions come out next year.

Star Wars (Original)
Empire Stikes Back (Latest)
Return of the Jedi (Original)

If Han shoots first in IV and Hayden is removed from VI, I would watched the latest version of each in 4K until the cows come home! What about you?

That's precisely what I would do - though Jedi Rocks would have to be removed from Jedi, as well before I'd even consider it..

The reason the SE to ESB wasn't like the other two is because there weren't revisions to the tone of the film. If both the other films had gotten the same treatment, you would have never seen the level of controversy that happened.

Of course, I still would support the unaltered OT being available for historical sake, but in terms of my own personal watching - I wouldn't have had nearly the flinch-factor on Star Wars and ROTJ.

Originally Posted by Petey Parker

I would think either Star Wars Celebration or San Diego Comic Con next year would be the best place to announce it. It would blow the roof off. In appreciation, the fans should make a "Yub Nub" video showing the various celebrations of the news from around the world.

Very possibly. Or perhaps Star Wars weekends at WDW. They got Mark Hamill this year - I think they will get even more for next year to really raise the profile. It would be unorthodox, but it would further raise their profile and Disney gets all the attention since it's their event.

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Food for thought:

Well isn't that...interesting.

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Yes. You're talking about HOAs. But you go into those supporting the idea, because you like the neighborhood as it is and agree to the rules for that reason. You normally don't make money off your house though like you do your car. Try going in to work by foot...it affects your bottom line.

No, he's referring to historical landmarks/sites.

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Do u think Lucas sold without any contractual stipulations? As tight as he has been historically he just gave up the property with no demands? None?

Four billion bucks speaks volumes. George also had his "final say" with the 2011 versions.

Oh, and this is all covered by the BusinessWeek article in my signature. He actually had a hard time doing it, but he did indeed sign everything over when he sold the company, and Disney made it clear in no uncertain terms that they have final word on everything. It's all in their own words in the article.

Originally Posted by octagon

Yes, I'm sure Disney gave Lucas four billion dollars and let him retain control of 'his' movies.

That seems much more likely than 'here's four billion dollars, they're ours now'.

The only entity more controlling than Lucasfilm is Disney, LOL.

They own the property, Lucas has no influence at all any more. Again, all in the article in my sig - he "consults" as in they get to pick his brain about the universe. Yes, he wrote the treatments to the sequel trilogy - that was part of the sale - they bought them - but they have no obligation to even follow them, either - which is clearly evidenced by the fact they threw out Arndt's script, in which the original cast had much more minor roles, and the rewrite reportedly features them quite extensively.

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

If you don't think he's still not getting a percentage or has no creative control, even if it's only as a consultant, you're being dense.

I know I'm a broken record here, but seriously - before you say anything else so foolish, read it. Iger and Lucas in their own words in BusinessWeek - not some speculative blog or fan imagining of fantasy scenarios. It even specifically mentions how Lucas had a hard time at first with really giving up control - but in the end, he did.

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Beyond that simple logic, there's also the distinct possibility that Lucas put it in his contract with Disney that they can only release his preferred versions. It's hilarious that you guys think the Disney deal was just cut and dry "Here's $4 billion, enjoy your Star Wars."

Facts can be hilarious, I guess. But not as much as people wildly speculating about a business deal that the details of which were actually rather public, since it is a publicly traded company and all.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

So the Complete Saga Box (the separate sets) still in my local stores, means what to this prediction?

I guess it means it's July, 2014. 18 months to go.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I guess it means it's July, 2014. 18 months to go.

The Newest Hope

[Lentulus Batiatus]

If the original theatricals are ever again released I'll do what I've done with the current release - buy them to own them, put them in my custom Star Wars cases to replace the DVD versions and likely never, ever watch them. And I won't lose any sleep over any of it either.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

No he's just fooled you for 30 years. For shame!

I mean it, seek help. You need it badly.

It's ok. Clearly I'm in very, VERY good company.

[Bob Schlapowitz]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'd still love to have the 1997 versions but I don't mind the 2004 editions at all, in fact I like most of the new new changes like the updated CG Jabba (being the one person on Earth who likes that scene) and the seamless set extension in the Death Star cell bay. Even Hayden I can tolerate because I do actually like the prequels, and I've started to get used to seeing him there and hearing Tem Morrison's voice as Boba Fett.

But the 2011 iterations are a new level of stupid, like Artoo's magical disappearing rock and the horrid new call when Obi-Wan frightens off the sand people. Empire, once again, seems to have gotten off lightly, but the stuff in Jedi is utterly useless. There was no need to make Jabba's entrance bigger (ahem) or to add CG to Artoo's freakout at the bunker or to add a crappy CG Dug into Jabba's palace. The blinking Ewoks was something they tried to do during the actual production but they couldn't get it to work, so obviously it always niggled Lucas, fair enough. But Vader's 'Nooooo......NOOOOOOOOOOO!' is even goofier than the one in Revenge of the Sith and it really does ruin one of the most pivotal scenes in the entire saga.

Is it just me or was the first "No" clipped from the line "No. I will deal with them myself"?

I mean the added ROTJ "No".

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Here's how I would watch the Original Star Wars Trilogy in 4K if both versions come out next year.

Star Wars (Original)
Empire Stikes Back (Latest)
Return of the Jedi (Original)

If Han shoots first in IV and Hayden is removed from VI, I would watched the latest version of each in 4K until the cows come home! What about you?

Nope not until they put back Boba's original voice not that stupid kiwi accent.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

LOL Ok, keep losing sleep over this.

Actually Star Wars helps me sleep but this thread has been known to give me nightmares ...

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by chip75

Actually Star Wars helps me sleep but this thread has been known to give me nightmares ...

I just looked & there have been thousands & thousands of posts removed from this thread ~ The whining will never stop

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Nope not until they put back Boba's original voice not that stupid kiwi accent.

One of the laziest, most lifeless performances I've ever heard.

[Lentulus Batiatus]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

It's ok. Clearly I'm in very, VERY good company.

A bunch of lunatics screaming "GIVE US THE UNALTERED VERSIONS IN PRISTINE RESTORED BLU-RAY QUALITY NOW OR I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WATCH STAR WARS AGAIN" isn't any company I'd want to keep.