Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Well, i think that every Star Wars fan (and there are many) will buy it again, not necessarily because it will be the unaltered trilogy, but because it's a new edition of Star Wars with new covers/packaging etc.!
(I'm really surprised by the amount of people that double and triple-dip due to new packaging, or a new extra or something)

Oh there will be quite a few, but probably not record breaking. The set as it is wasn't record breaking. Of course you will argue that this mysterious massive segment of the fanbase is waiting, sure. As I said, nobody can prove these mysterious numbers one way or another. The only proof will be in the actual UOT BD release pudding. Don't get me wrong, I hope this BD release breaks every sales record known to man(for whatever that's worth), but logic, and history dictate that it won't.
Another measuring stick would be the original set dvd sales numbers? I can't recall but were they the biggest sellers at that time?

Originally Posted by Elvis

You are more wrong than a blind man in a dart throwing contest. Or as relates to this board you are more wrong than a Michael Bay fan at a Fellini film festival.

See above.

[Falaskan]

I will surely buy a UOT set if it comes out. I would also buy a nice transfer of the latest editions. In fact, I personally would be fine with the latest editions if they only make Han shoot first in all of them.

Please don't flay me alive!!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I will surely buy a UOT set if it comes out. I would also buy a nice transfer of the latest editions. In fact, I personally would be fine with the latest editions if they only make Han shoot first in all of them.

Please don't flay me alive!!

Han did shoot first....in Empire, but then Vader took his blaster.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Oh there will be quite a few, but probably not record breaking. The set as it is wasn't record breaking. Of course you will argue that this mysterious massive segment of the fanbase is waiting, sure. As I said, nobody can prove these mysterious numbers one way or another. The only proof will be in the actual UOT BD release pudding. Don't get me wrong, I hope this BD release breaks every sales record known to man(for whatever that's worth), but logic, and history dictate that it won't.
Another measuring stick would be the original set dvd sales numbers? I can't recall but were they the biggest sellers at that time?



See above.

I don't think we can go by the sales of the original Blu-Ray set, though. I'm sure there are quite a few who didn't buy it because it wasn't the originals, but there are probably also a lot of people (I don't know how many) who didn't buy it because they knew it was from the same transfer as the DVDs.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

I don't think we can go by the sales of the original Blu-Ray set, though. I'm sure there are quite a few who didn't buy it because it wasn't the originals, but there are probably also a lot of people (I don't know how many) who didn't buy it because they knew it was from the same transfer as the DVDs.

Well until a UOT BD set is released, we have to get numbers from somewhere.
Personally I couldn't give a rat's ass if the UOT BD set(if/when it's released) doesn't even crack the top 1,000,000 in sales...I'm going to get it and that's all that matters to me.

[octagon]

I don't care if they only sell one copy as long a they sell that one copy to me.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

NO!
Said me!
I love The Phantom Menace, it is my favourite of the 6!
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Why must I constantly be mocked for liking it?
Damn, some of you people here are nothing but extremely rude and annoying!

While film opinion is obviously subjective there are definitely movies that come as close to being objectively loved or hated as possible. Phantom Menace is one of those films, on the hated side. The Godfather would be an example on the loved side.

If you say "The Godfather is a bad movie!" then you're entitled to that opinion, but 95% of film fans are also entitled to think you're crazy. Same with loving Phantom Menace and thinking it's a better film than Empire Strikes Back.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

While film opinion is obviously subjective there are definitely movies that come as close to being objectively loved or hated as possible. Phantom Menace is one of those films, on the hated side. The Godfather would be an example on the loved side.

If you say "The Godfather is a bad movie!" then you're entitled to that opinion, but 95% of film fans are also entitles to think you're crazy. Same with loving Phantom Menace and thinking it's a better film than Empire Strikes Back.

I have never seen The Godfather... any of them.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

While film opinion is obviously subjective there are definitely movies that come as close to being objectively loved or hated as possible. Phantom Menace is one of those films, on the hated side. The Godfather would be an example on the loved side.

If you say "The Godfather is a bad movie!" then you're entitled to that opinion, but 95% of film fans are also entitled to think you're crazy. Same with loving Phantom Menace and thinking it's a better film than Empire Strikes Back.

Well... the 'most people think this' or '95% of film fans think' is attempting to sound rational, but it's not rational. You and your friends are not '95% of film fans.' It's totally fine to not like something, and I'm not calling you out on it. I've made my peace with Phantom Menace- it's not what I wanted, it's not a classic and I'm okay to like the ones I like and not be mortally offended by the others. But for all the extremely vocal talk of 'apologists' defending bad movies there are their diametric opposites that need to find validation in how bad these movies are. They need to make arch blanket statements that seem to me to fulfill the same need of those who want to claim Lucas is the greatest filmmaker who ever lived.

Then there are folks who sit in the middle and think the new movies are not the best or the worst things ever made, but are just kind of there as interesting pieces that don't quite work. But how the arch defenders and the arch detractors think they are not two sides of the same coin will forever be beyond me.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

I have never seen The Godfather... any of them.

That wasn't exactly the brunt of his argument.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by happydood

Well... the 'most people think this' or '95% of film fans think' is attempting to sound rational, but it's not rational. You and your friends are not '95% of film fans.' It's totally fine to not like something, and I'm not calling you out on it. I've made my peace with Phantom Menace- it's not what I wanted, it's not a classic and I'm okay to like the ones I like and not be mortally offended by the others. But for all the extremely vocal talk of 'apologists' defending bad movies there are their diametric opposites that need to find validation in how bad these movies are. They need to make arch blanket statements that seem to me to fulfill the same need of those who want to claim Lucas is the greatest filmmaker who ever lived.

Then there are folks who sit in the middle and think the new movies are not the best or the worst things ever made, but are just kind of there as interesting pieces that don't quite work. But how the arch defenders and the arch detractors think they are not two sides of the same coin will forever be beyond me.

Well I'm speaking of film enthusiasts. I'm sure the percentage of Godfather love is much lower if you take a random sampling of anyone over 13, but that's not really proof of anything or a useful statistic. My main point is that while film appreciation is always subjective you can definitely get a large group of enthusiasts together and come to a consensus on certain films, which is about as objective as you're ever going to get in this hobby.

I would guess if you sat down 100 people, 50 being hardcore film enthusiasts like us and the other 50 being film critics of substantial renown, 95% would say The Godfather is a great film and Phantom Menace is a flawed film.

Whether that means anything to you or not is, again, subjective. I'm merely talking about "as close to consensus as possible" here.

[Ernest Rister]

It's the annual Star Bowl! Star Wars versus Star Trek...come vote in this poll! Or don't!

http://thesupernaughts.com/point-it-...-trek-vs-wars/

[STARKILLER--1138]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Well until a UOT BD set is released, we have to get numbers from somewhere.
Personally I couldn't give a rat's ass if the UOT BD set(if/when it's released) doesn't even crack the top 1,000,000 in sales...I'm going to get it and that's all that matters to me.

Originally Posted by octagon

I don't care if they only sell one copy as long a they sell that one copy to me.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

It's the annual Star Bowl! Star Wars versus Star Trek...come vote in this poll! Or don't!

http://thesupernaughts.com/point-it-...-trek-vs-wars/

Star Wars, always, but I love Trek too.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by STARKILLER--1138

Star Wars, always, but I love Trek too.

Well, go vote, because there's only six hours left, and Star Wars is only ahead by eight votes.

[stvn1974]

Voted Star Trek

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

voted star trek :d

Bastage!!!

Trek now ahead by one.

[stvn1974]

Star Trek The Original Series
Star Wars Original Theatrical Trilogy
Star Trek The Next Generation
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek The Original Crew Film Series
Star Trek The Next Generation Film Series
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Enterprise
Star Wars The Original Trilogy Special Editions
Star Trek The Animated Series
Star Trek & Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Wars Prequels
Star Wars The Holiday Special

Star Trek wins.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Bastage!!!

Trek now ahead by one.

Now tied!

[kamphausd1]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Not to mention the picture quality of the UAT done properly (presumably going back to original negative for 4K scan) will far exceed the current discs which are using at least 11 year-old scans with Lowry artifacts. This would also be something else they can market for it.

And I'm assuming that's exactly what that 4K scan by Reliance Media is.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Star Trek The Original Series
Star Wars Original Theatrical Trilogy
Star Trek The Next Generation
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek The Original Crew Film Series
Star Trek The Next Generation Film Series
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Enterprise
Star Wars The Original Trilogy Special Editions
Star Trek The Animated Series
Star Trek & Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Wars Prequels
Star Wars The Holiday Special

Star Trek wins.

Star Wars Original trilogy
Star Trek Original Series
Star Trek Original Six films
Star Wars TPM

Tied because anything other than those is crap anyway...