Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[imsounoriginal]

The personal anecdote thing is always useless, but... Frankly I've always noticed that people who are really into Star Wars (online or otherwise) just don't like the Prequels, and I used to think back when they were first coming out that time would be kind to them but that hatred seems to have only gotten worse. I'm really the only person I know out of my friends who are into Star Wars that likes the Prequels and watches them even semi-regularly (a co-worker of mine doesn't mind them but doesn't passionately love them, either), or bothers to defend them. I prefer all of them over RotJ, and at least I and III over TFA (II on a recent rewatch was kinda tough to get through until Geonosis, first time that's ever happened to me).

[Markgway]

I was born in 1979, so I'm a last minute Generation X-er.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Fabs

I think why Empire and A New Hope are considered by many to be the best, is that all the elements we love about Star Wars are the most perfect in those two.

Yeah, I think the overall writing was just plain superior in those two.

[zafisher94]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

It's funny how that works, because I rarely meet people in real life that do like the prequels, and I've only ever seen people write defenses for them on online communities such as these.

Of course, I'm 34 and I don't know too my of you damn millenials-- now go love your prequels and play pokemon go

Haha, I may be a millenial, but no pokemon go for me!

For what it's worth my ranking for films is IV, V, VII, VI, III, II, and lastly, I. Without trying to cause yet another debate, I just want to put in my two cents, from the perspective of someone who was 5-11 years old while the prequels were coming out, that I personally recognize all the flaws in the prequels and acknowledge the original series as the superior trilogy, I still enjoy the prequels for what they are and they do enough good to make me forgive the bad.

[Nicolawicz]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yeah, I think the overall writing was just plain superior in those two.

Not to mention they're far better directed, especially Empire. And they were produced by Gary Kurtz, who gets Star Wars a lot better than Lucas, in my opinion.

[Fabs]

Originally Posted by Nicolawicz

Not to mention they're far better directed, especially Empire. And they were produced by Gary Kurtz, who gets Star Wars a lot better than Lucas, in my opinion.

Yeah, Empire is a very beautiful looking film. The colors are amazing, especially inside the Millennium Falcon cockpit. Also, the editing is amazing. I like to think back to the time when they escape from Echo Base on Hoth, and the film just switches back and forth from that scene to Vader arriving on Hoth, and then to the AT-AT battle. Each one flows into the next so perfectly.

[Leterface]

Well my son is born 2006 and he agrees with me that the prequels are in every way inferior to the original trilogy. Take that Lucas and the rest of you undermining the youths intelligence. Haha.

[stvn1974]

People who think the prequels are better than Return Of The Jedi shouldn't be allowed to watch movies.

[Lionel Horsepackage]

^ I tend to consider Revenge of the Sith as slightly edging out Return of the Jedi, for what it's worth.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Lionel Horsepackage

^ I tend to consider Revenge of the Sith as slightly edging out Return of the Jedi, for what it's worth.

The cool parts in Jedi are probably a little cooler than the cool parts in Sith but Sith has a better overall cool/crap ratio.

[Bobbyjoe766]

RETURN OF THE JEDI,being the weakest instalment of the original trilogy imo is still miles ahead of the prequels.Sections of the film are top-notch and equal to anything seen in the previous two films.

[Captain Flint]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

People who think the prequels are better than Return Of The Jedi shouldn't be allowed to watch movies.

Yeah, because people shouldn't have opinions. We should all just be a hive mind.

[zafisher94]

If Revenge of the Sith didn't have Vader killing younglings (which I get why they did it, but it makes the redemption arc in Return of the Jedi harder to swallow for me), had Anakin putting up a harder fight before turning to the dark side, and omit or change the delivery on "if you're not with me, then you're my enemy" and the dreaded "NOOOOOOO" line, then it'd be ahead of Jedi for me.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by Captain Flint

Yeah, because people shouldn't have opinions. We should all just be a hive mind.

Hey thats the other Star. - that was a good movie.

[stvn1974]

The whole Leia being able to remember her mother when she died 14 seconds after giving birth to her ruins all of the Sith. Call me crazy but I like continuity in my movies.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

The whole Leia being able to remember her mother when she died 14 seconds after giving birth to her ruins all of the Sith.
Call me crazy but I like continuity in my movies.

You like star trek 5 but in it:

Spock lifts his crew mates with the rocket boots. He passes deck numbers 35 through 78 from bottom to top.

Problem is deck numbers go from top to bottom. The bridge is on deck 1.
Also the Enterprise of that class only had 23 decks.

Your continuity just went out the airlock.....crazy.

[Geoff D]

What's so screwed up about the Leia thing is that Lucas actually put something in there that fans could've hung some kind of head-canon on: Padme reaches out and touches one of the babies which might've conferred some sort of Force imprint onto them...but it's Luke that she touches, not Leia! And I know that they're twins, but should each baby have the exact same birthmark too? And then there's having to go back and film Obi-Wan retrieving Anakin's lightsaber in a pick-up because they clean forgot it during principal photography. Oh, George. Continuity was never his strong point.

But I still like Sith better than Jedi. The OT movie has the cooler moments but the PT movie has the more satisfying narrative, Sith feels like a film that has its own story to tell whereas Jedi is little more than a giant third act.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But I still like Sith better than Jedi. The OT movie has the cooler moments but the PT movie has the more satisfying narrative, Sith feels like a film that has its own story to tell whereas Jedi is little more than a giant third act.

Sith is a good movie dragged down by the bad bits and Jedi is a bad movie elevated by the very good bits.

They both wind up in the same 'the good outweighs the bad' neighborhood but they definitely get there in different ways.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by octagon

Sith is a good movie dragged down by the bad bits and Jedi is a bad movie elevated by the very good bits.

They both wind up in the same 'the good outweighs the bad' neighborhood but they definitely get there in different ways.

Yeah, I mean they both fit their respective trilogies: Empire left that massive cliffhanger so it's no wonder that Jedi had to scramble to finish that plot line off then basically start the movie's (and the trilogy's) final act after only 30 or 40 minutes, whereas Sith is very much its own thing (indeed, each PT movie feels quite removed from its siblings) with lots more moving parts to consider given the storytelling scope of the PT as a whole.

It's also Lucas' most confident PT movie for sure, that opening shot is just amazing and because the movie now has some proper galactic-wide stakes (fitting for something called 'Star Wars', no? ) there's so much more intensity and urgency to it. In a way it's a shame the PT didn't just start with the second half of Clones and go from there.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I was born in 1982 as well, but everything I do is indicative of a Generation X person.

I was born in 80 and am a total Gen X'r as well. These scales are all very subjective though, I have read plenty of models that put millennials starting around '85 or even '90.