Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Cherokee Jack]

Not 100% sure on this but I seem to remember reading that some of the cantina aliens are actually just costumes/masks from old horror movies. Pretty sure there's a werewolf and a vampire in there.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

Not 100% sure on this but I seem to remember reading that some of the cantina aliens are actually just costumes/masks from old horror movies. Pretty sure there's a werewolf and a vampire in there.

Sadly they replaced the werewolf with a pot-smoking lizard wearing a Rasta cap.

[shinobipopcorn]

Yeah, wolfie is replaced in the SE, I knew that much. So is blink-and-you'll-miss-it Bad Greedo:

[myway]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Sadly they replaced the werewolf with a pot-smoking lizard wearing a Rasta cap.

I like the werewolf too but FWIW, that's not pot; it's hookah.

[Takeshi666]

Originally Posted by Bobbyjoe766

There’s another weirdo in the cantina - a giant mantis/grasshopper. Not sure if he/it has been immortalised in plastic? Make an interesting action figure.

Yes.

[Martoto]

Alterations they should have made instead ... #459,298,637

Why the f- didn't they do something about McDiarmid's contact lenses in Return Of The Jedi? (particularly the sat on the throne goading Luke scenes).

One eye's off down to the shops. The other eye's coming back with the change.

[emailking]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

I don't mind most of ROTJ's alterations, like blinking Ewoks and roaming herds of Bantha... but Vader's "noooo" at the end is the most obvious "screw you" from creator to fans that I've ever seen. So idiotic.

When I first heard about it, that was my thought. After I watched it, I realized it's better that way. It makes more sense than him saying nothing.

If it had always been there, and then Lucas excised it to make Vader the silent hero, people would complain just as vociferously about the removal.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by emailking

If it had always been there, and then Lucas excised it to make Vader the silent hero, people would complain just as vociferously about the removal.

It's almost like what we really want is for the original art to be preserved and available!

[Roonan]

The notion from some people that Lucas did changes to his movies not for himself but to screw them over, is one of the oldest and most laughable examples of childish arrogance and pretentiousness that I see online...

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Roonan

The notion from some people that Lucas did changes to his movies not for himself but to screw them over, is one of the oldest and most laughable examples of childish arrogance and pretentiousness that I see online...

Oh c'mon, now... I was just saying that the one instance of Vader screaming "nooooo" in JEDI was a clear example of Lucas saying "screw you". Even if I'm wrong, you don't have to be a dick about it. I wasn't making a broad, sweeping statement. Fact is: back in 2005, people were vocal about disliking Vader's "noooo" when he was created as a Frankenstein monster in SITH, and then... voila... suddenly we have him screaming a nearly identical "nooooo" in the latest edition of JEDI. It's not a huge bridge to build, to think Lucas might've done it (partly) as a jab to all the prequel naysayers. He's always been very self-aware.

[RancorKeeper]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Heck yeah, I skip the first Vader scene in ROGUE ONE (at his castle on Mustafar). It just feels like it doesn't belong, to me; like it's a scene entirely made by "the suits" that wanted more Vader, for marketing. Plus it's one too many planet-hopping trips for Krennic, in my opinion. The whole narrative flows SO much better without it, and WOW does the ending with Vader pack more punch if you haven't already seen him.

I thought I was the only one, that scene doesn't even make any sense to me. It is so unnecessary and the dialogue is completely pointless. It goes nowhere. It's just "here's Vader". Which isn't a bad thing, it just feels tacked on like Canto in TLJ but far shorter.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Oh c'mon, now... I was just saying that the one instance of Vader screaming "nooooo" in JEDI was a clear example of Lucas saying "screw you".

I wasn't talking about you in particular, but your comment did remind me of the very common argument that I've seen for years.

And my point is that Lucas doesn't care about what any of us think nor does he make creative revisions based on that (fortunately). He couldn't care less wether we like it or not.

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Even if I'm wrong, you don't have to be a dick about it.

Sure, I'm the one being a dick for calling it out...

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Rogue One is actually my favorite film after the original trilogy.

I agree. It's not a perfect film, but it's far better than everything that followed ROTJ.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Roonan

Sure, I'm the one being a dick for calling it out...

LOL, sorry about that... in my circles "you don't have to be a dick about it" is a fairly casual, benign phrase. I realize it comes off harsher from a stranger in a written forum. But I meant it tongue-in-cheek.

[RancorKeeper]

This is a touchy world these days. If you want to use that kind of language, you have to go outside with the smokers.

[steel_breeze]

Not sure where to put this post, so I might as well just put it here, in the "Complete Saga" category....

I know there's a lot of toxic negativity that swirls around these forums, but I want to take a moment just to say, as an aging 47-year-old fan who's digging the whole "Disney era"... how freaking lucky are we to have TEN pretty kickass live action STAR WARS movies??? I mean, seriously.

I was six in 1977 when the first movie came out, and I was 28 in 1999 when the prequels hit. And in all that time, I only knew a universe where there were these three amazing movies that transported me to "a galaxy far, far away...." (aside from Holiday Special and Ewok movies, which I also ravenously sought out when they aired). Admittedly, it took me more than ten years to warm to the prequels, but I finally shed my hate for them in 2015.

Since May of this year, I've been watching all TEN flicks in chronological "in universe" order -- including SOLO in the theaters, in its proper place between Episode III and ROGUE ONE -- and I'm just blown away that this huge sweeping epic even exists, after only knowing three core movies for SO long. Every installment is pure joy, for me. Every moment makes me feel like a kid again, playing with my action figures and imagining what could possibly "happen next".

I'm sorry for all the disappointed fans out there who probably think this post is sickeningly positive, or written by some wacky "Disney shill or fanboy" (which is not the case, I assure you)... and I'm not blind to each installment's shortcomings, either; I pretentiously consider myself a "true cinephile" and even a bit of a "film historian", so I feel I know what's objectively considered to be "good or bad cinematic storytelling". I don't think any of the STAR WARS films are perfect, and many of them even verge on "guilty pleasure"... but they ALL succeed in transporting me to my happy place, every time. And that's all I ask from them.

Oh, and John Williams rules.

May the Force be with us all, for a long, long time to come....

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by emailking

When I first heard about it, that was my thought. After I watched it, I realized it's better that way. It makes more sense than him saying nothing.

If it had always been there, and then Lucas excised it to make Vader the silent hero, people would complain just as vociferously about the removal.

And if Lucas never made any Star Wars movies, people wouldn’t complain that they didn’t exist.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Since May of this year, I've been watching all TEN flicks in chronological "in universe" order -- including SOLO in the theaters, in its proper place between Episode III and ROGUE ONE -- and I'm just blown away that this huge sweeping epic even exists, after only knowing three core movies for SO long. Every installment is pure joy, for me. Every moment makes me feel like a kid again, playing with my action figures and imagining what could possibly "happen next".



Oh, and John Williams rules.

May the Force be with us all, for a long, long time to come....

Well I grew up with Star Wars in the 90's, and when I first became a fan of the classic trilogy, I immediately dived into the "expanded universe" at the time, mainly consisting of the Thrawn trilogy and the Dark Empire comics.

Point is, I'm used to there being a bunch of extra Star Wars sequels, prequels, side-quels, spin-offs, etc. But they were all books and video games. So to me, we're in a period where we get an expanded universe like we did then, but this time they're actual films. Which is pretty cool to me, even if I think the new films so far are a bit of a mixed bag but enjoyable overall. Still don't like the prequel trilogy, though, and don't think I could convince myself even in a hundred years.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

\Still don't like the prequel trilogy, though, and don't think I could convince myself even in a hundred years.

You know what did it for me? It was the strangest thing... but when I saw the first full-length trailer for FORCE AWAKENS in March 2015, I saw this image for the first time:


<<<<EDIT: this was supposed to be the crashed Star Destroyer on Jakku, but the image didn't carry over>>>>

...and that was it. It was like a light-switch had been tripped inside of me. Suddenly, all STAR WARS was good STAR WARS and I needed as much as I could get my hands on. After a decade of despising the prequels with the fiery fury of a thousand suns, I went out and snagged the 3-movie "Yoda" blu-ray set at Fry's Electronics in Los Angeles, came home and poured myself some Jack Daniel's (to ease the pain of Jar-Jar and Young Anakin), fired up the home theater... and actually enjoyed myself. In that moment, I let go of all my longtime yearning for what the prequels COULD HAVE BEEN, and simply started to embrace WHAT THEY WERE. Now I can even enjoy the them WITHOUT the Jack Daniel's.

[peschi]

play the prequel trilogy after you watched The Clone Wars, and must say, it made them bearable. Even think they should just used the events in Clone Wars for the movies.

or heck just centre it around Ahsoka.