Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[reason108]

It doesn't really matter what Lucas`s intentions were. It was what he delivered back in 77 that matters.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Because Adywan's Revisited versions don't have any of the more controversial changes made to the official versions, like Greedo shooting first, Hayden Christensen's Force ghost, Vader shouting "nooooo," etc, they automatically make them my preferred versions.

Because the unaltered OT doesn’t have ANY of the changes made to the official versions, they’re automatically my preferred versions.

[broly965]

OK since there is no threads on these and no reviews either, i can just assume these are the butchered " lucas editions " ? I was really hoping someday that disney or whoever would somehow get access to the originals prints/scans and put SW on official blu ray the way they were theatrically. Guess not. I mean they shouldn't need his permission for anything since he sold it. Thanks god for my Harmy SW. Guess they will never be topped.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by broly965

OK since there is no threads on these and no reviews either, i can just assume these are the butchered " lucas editions " ? I was really hoping someday that disney or whoever would somehow get access to the originals prints/scans and put SW on official blu ray the way they were theatrically. Guess not. I mean they shouldn't need his permission for anything since he sold it. Thanks god for my Harmy SW. Guess they will never be topped.

4K77 and 4K83 top them.

[broly965]

^ 4k?

[Blu-21]

The 2004 masters for the DVD set and the 2011 Blu-Rays were made with DVD in mind, thats why the colour and contrast is so pumped up, they look eye catching on DVD for sure.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Blu-21

The 2004 masters for the DVD set and the 2011 Blu-Rays were made with DVD in mind, thats why the colour and contrast is so pumped up, they look eye catching on DVD for sure.

They did? They always looked like shit

[Superjim]

Originally Posted by Allgood

Correct. The Star Wars codes are MoviesAnywhere, it will work with iTunes, GooglePlay, VUDU, Microsoft, Verizon, etc.

Thanks, I've been thinking about buying the movies off iTunes directly, but if the included digital codes give me the same thing, getting the actual new Blu-ray releases might be the better way to go - the iTunes version plus the discs! Works out to being the same cost, give or take.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by broly965

^ 4k?

4K77 and 4K83 are the 4K versions of scanned film prints of Star Wars and Return of the Jedi. There are also 1080p versions, which I have since I don’t have a 4K setup.

[broly965]

No Empire? Yeah i do have a 4k setup but don't have any 4k SW. That would indeed be superior if Disney could just use Harmy's version and put those on 4k. I could die happy.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

But we don’t even know what Greedo says because it isn’t subtitled. Maybe there’s some official translation but the average movie-goer isn’t gonna know that. For all we know Greedo hurled an insult at Han and that’s what made Han fire. It’s definitely not return fire since they shoot at the same exact time. And for someone watching it for the first time they might even think Han fired slightly before Greedo because it’s hard to know exactly when the the two shots were fired. Lucas should’ve just added a subtitle if the line translates as a threat.

I think the scene looks better than the previous specialized versions, but it’s lost all or most of the “John Wayne never shoots first” theme that Lucas “originally” intended. That idea he had was much clearer in the ‘97 version, as (mac)clunky as it was.

Another sacrilegious idea would be to remove the line “Yes, I’ll bet you have.” Just have it end on Greedo saying “I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time” and then have the shots fired. That way Greedo gets in the last word before shooting and it implies he was looking forward to killing Han.

Here's a handy reply that I made earlier:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Well, dare I say that a bit of imagination might need to be involved - shocking I know, having to actually think about things instead of just writing them off in a knee-jerk response - but I think it's more that it's such a quick insert between him saying it and the fireworks happening that there's no time for people to actually read a subtitle, were it present.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Didn't even say that them being 'alternative cuts' is a problem in itself for Disnee. But we all know why the UOT won't be coming and there are no technical reasons to do with it at all, it's still down to one man. And I know they've done a few Criterions over the years but most labels are just getting rebuffed by the Mouse now. Or maybe Criterion's first UHD discs will be the original Original Trilogy!??!

I'd love to see them included as 'special features' on the big-bastard 4K boxset along with the original theatrical versions of the prequels and the 3D versions of the prequels too, but that's all pretty much a pipedream.

The thought that Lucas’ contract upon selling it to Disney stipulated that they can never release the originals still keeps me up at night.

[Geoff D]

It doesn't really matter whether there's a legal clause or not, whether he physically owns them or not (how many directors do "own" their work but are allowed to tinker with them all the same?) etc. Lucas is the author of the work - or the de facto author in the case of the directors of Empire and Jedi being dead - and as long as he doesn't want the originals released then they won't be released.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Granted, but if there’s no legal recourse, then we might get them after he passes. Maybe.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

4K77 and 4K83 are the 4K versions of scanned film prints of Star Wars and Return of the Jedi. There are also 1080p versions, which I have since I don’t have a 4K setup.

Originally Posted by broly965

No Empire?

The team doing these versions are limited by what 35mm elements they can get their hands on. They did 4K83 first because they had a "pristine" film print. They're working on a 4K80 project, but the quality of the prints they have isn't as good, so it'll take a while as they mix and match to get the best possible version of each scene, and try and restore the scans.

TN1 on 4K80:

Unlike the pristine Return of the Jedi print which needed very little work, this project is expected to take at least two years – many of the sources are faded, and have at least as much damage (perhaps even more) as the Star Wars prints we were working with.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Granted, but if there’s no legal recourse, then we might get them after he passes. Maybe.

Which is why I keep saying we won't get them until he passes, if ever (or he might have the most Damascene of conversions in the meantime, lol).

[klauswhereareyou]

Man, that new Han/Greedo edit sure is McClunky.

[Kinard717]

I really hope they release these Disney+ versions of 1-6 on standard 1080p blu rays.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Neon Rabbit

TN1 on 4K80:

It says two years, but how long ago was that said?

All this talk about 4K77, 4K83, and Song of the South makes me wish I still knew how to get a hold of these things. I was across it a decade or so ago before I got into collecting, but I gave that up when I started paying for things and most places are gone now.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by broly965

No Empire? Yeah i do have a 4k setup but don't have any 4k SW. That would indeed be superior if Disney could just use Harmy's version and put those on 4k. I could die happy.

The additions and fixes in Empire are hardly as drastic as the other two movies.