Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[KRW1]

The biggest lie Obi Wan told was '..only Imperial Stormtroopers are so accurate'.

[The Fallen Deity]

Even though it wasn't the original idea, Obi-Wan telling Luke that stuff makes sense imo.

I mean think about it, at this point, Luke is just a young, innocent and naïve farm boy.

Would you really tell him then and there that Darth Vader i.e. one of the most feared and evil people in galaxy was actually your dad?

No you wouldn't.

He was fabricating that story to emotionally protect him.

It's possible that he may have talked to him about it at a later date when he was more mature.

"Luke, remember what I told you about your father? Well about that..."

[hanshotfirst1138]

“This is your father’s lightsaber!”
“What did he do with it?”
“Well, among other things, kill children and try to murder me.”

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

“This is your father’s lightsaber!”
“What did he do with it?”
“Well, among other things, kill children and try to murder me.”

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by KRW1

The biggest lie Obi Wan told was '..only Imperial Stormtroopers are so accurate'.

Not a lie, it's true.
In A New Hope, they are bad shots up until the escape Death Star. It was all a plan to find the secret hidden rebel base.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Not a lie, it's true.
In A New Hope, they are bad shots up until the escape Death Star. It was all a plan to find the secret hidden rebel base.

Bingo! They were deliberately shooting poorly in those scenes.

I mean look at the opening on the Tantive IV. They were shooting really well there.

As for subsequent films... Yeah they were just bad shots.

[NotDarthSidious77]

Do the reissues from 2019 - 2020 include this version or a new transfer based off the 4K discs? Also has the third bonus disc on the 2011 complete saga been in other releases?

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by NotDarthSidious77

Do the reissues from 2019 - 2020 include this version or a new transfer based off the 4K discs? Also has the third bonus disc on the 2011 complete saga been in other releases?

The 2019 ones use the 2011 discs. The 2020 ones are new BDs that use the transfers on the UHDs.

As for the bonus disc... I think it's also in the 2015 reissue of the box (the one with the Vader cover).

[Narcissus]

Originally Posted by Jay G.

"A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father."

Also, note that Vader not only murdered Luke's father, but "betrayed" him as well. How can one betray themselves?

That's exactly what happened. He turned evil, becoming Darth Vader, which killed the person known as Anakin.
And he did it of his own free will.

You're kidding right?
A great number of people betray themselves daily {raises his hand}. Fortunately, most of the time, it isn't to this level of self destruction.

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Even though it wasn't the original idea, Obi-Wan telling Luke that stuff makes sense imo.
I mean think about it, at this point, Luke is just a young, innocent and naïve farm boy.

Would you really tell him then and there that Darth Vader i.e. one of the most feared and evil people in galaxy was actually your dad?

No you wouldn't.

He was fabricating that story to emotionally protect him.

It's possible that he may have talked to him about it at a later date when he was more mature.

"Luke, remember what I told you about your father? Well about that..."

Mostly This.
HoloForce-Obi sure wasn't going to drop all that on his head right before he went to face Darth in ROTJ.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by KRW1

The biggest lie Obi Wan told was '..only Imperial Stormtroopers are so accurate'.

Precise.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Even though it wasn't the original idea, Obi-Wan telling Luke that stuff makes sense imo.

Yes, Lucas lucked out a bit in that the original backstory for Luke's father, that Obi-Wan tells, also works as a plausible lie to protect Luke from the revised "truth."

Lucas also lucked out in that he had cut out some additional references to Luke's father in the first film. In this video about the "Lost Cut" of Star Wars, a pilot comes up to Luke and says he knew Luke's father, and calls him a great pilot. No reference to any turn to becoming Vader. See the 31:25 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1885...ature=youtu.be

Originally Posted by Narcissus

Exactly This.

You do realize that by saying it's exactly how The Fallen Deity describes it, you're also agreeing with him that Vader being Luke's father wasn't the original idea, and that Obi-Wan fabricated a story, and didn't merely omit details.

[Narcissus]

Originally Posted by Jay G.

You do realize that by saying it's exactly how The Fallen Deity describes it, you're also agreeing with him that Vader being Luke's father wasn't the original idea, and that Obi-Wan fabricated a story, and didn't merely omit details.

Nope, I was agreeing with most of why Obi did what he did, Nth degree boy.
And freely admit i did not read the 1st sentence.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by Narcissus

Nope, I was agreeing with most of why Obi did what he did, Nth degree boy.
And freely admit i did not read the 1st sentence.

So by "exactly this," you meant not exactly what The Fallen Deity wrote, which you didn't even fully read.

[Narcissus]

Originally Posted by Jay G.

So by "exactly this," you meant not exactly what The Fallen Deity wrote, which you didn't even fully read.

Yes and fully admitted it. You'll fit in nicely here, pompous one.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by Narcissus

Yes and fully admitted it...

So you wrote something, realized what you wrote wasn't what you wanted, and then wrote that what you really meant was something else.

And you don't think it's possible Lucas did the same?

[Narcissus]

Only thing that matters is whats on the screen. Luke Is Darths kid, Leia is his sister, Han fires first, General Veers rules.

Oh, and Boba Fett is overrated.

[NotDarthSidious77]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

The 2019 ones use the 2011 discs. The 2020 ones are new BDs that use the transfers on the UHDs.

As for the bonus disc... I think it's also in the 2015 reissue of the box (the one with the Vader cover).

From what I see the new reissues included the deleted scenes on the first two bonus disc for the 2011 complete Blu-ray set. Unless they are not present.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by NotDarthSidious77

From what I see the new reissues included the deleted scenes on the first two bonus disc for the 2011 complete Blu-ray set. Unless they are not present.

Yup. They're included on the bonus discs in the new releases.

[NotDarthSidious77]

Originally Posted by the fallen deity

yup. They're included on the bonus discs in the new releases.

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[Rodney-2187]

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