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madlost1 · 06-28-2011, 01:10 AM

Is it weird that I'm watching The Phantom Menace now and all I can think about is the sound of the light saber hum and how epic it will be uncompressed.

flodsby · 06-28-2011, 01:29 AM

LOL just posted this on the lotr thread

https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4893216

al cos. · 06-28-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Maybe I'm missing something in your point, but if music was composed and recorded in 1982 for this specific scene, and the liner notes were written in 1997 for the 2 disc complete soundtrack release describing the scene for which the music was written, then what other conclusion is there other than the scene existed in 1982?

Perhaps it was shot with Hamil's stand-in (which is done all the time in every movie) and maybe that's why he says he didn't shoot it, but that doesn't mean the scene itself didn't exist in 1982.

It could have been scored to temp shots and storyboards, that happened fairly often.

Dotpattern · 06-28-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by al cos.

It could have been scored to temp shots and storyboards, that happened fairly often.

Only for effects shots, not for live action scenes. And for that to be the case, the score would have to have been recorded while the movie was still being shot. ROTJ wrapped shooting in May 1982. Williams recorded the score in January and February of 1983, just months before opening.

From Michael Matessino's 1997 liner notes:

Quote:

...the music continues with "Tatooine Rendezvous," most of which accompanies a sequence eliminated from the film. In it, Vader uses the Force to contact his son, Luke Skywalker...The sequence begins with the brief telepathic exchange between Luke and Vader, which is broken by the appearance of droids Artoo-Detoo and See-Threepio, accompanied by Luke's theme and a playful bouncing wind melody as Luke places a newly constructed lightsaber inside Artoo's domed head."

The scene existed in 1982/83. Case closed.

Anglik · 06-28-2011, 07:55 AM

http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.ph...wersji-3d.html

New blu-ray Yoda in Phantom Menace :-)

starwarsagent · 06-28-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

I have no idea what Lucas has done. I said it was a hunch and when it came out that there was this really cool scene that Mark Hamill has no recollection of it? I have no idea if it was or was not shot in 82 but I am willing to give the actor in the scene the benefit of the doubt. Much more than I am willing to give George when it comes to honesty. I personally wouldn't put it past George to do or say anything at this point with his track record. And the reason this was even brought up was because Lucas has said it was Hamill then Mark basically said..."Hey that was not me" Might have been something done in post production but it was NOT me.

OMG! you are clueless! I saw mark hammil and george lucas last year in person at the stewart panel. He said, he's seen the scene and he finally remembers...here it is. it's him, his hands and everything confirms it.

go to 12:30 in the tape.

I hope this confirms it for you. the scene should be put back into the movie...as well as the Millenium falcon on tattoine landing.

shelldweller · 06-28-2011, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by starwarsagent

OMG! you are clueless! I saw mark hammil and george lucas last year in person at the stewart panel. He said, he's seen the scene and he finally remembers...here it is. it's him, his hands and everything confirms it.

go to 12:30 in the tape.

YouTube - ‪Star Wars Celebration V: Part 6 of 7‬&rlm;

I hope this confirms it for you. the scene should be put back into the movie...as well as the Millenium falcon on tattoine landing.

Oh my god... I didn´t know the so called "fans" were also so paranoid. I hope the clip clears this matter up and they finally believe the scene was shot in ´82. I still don´t know what led them to believe it wasn´t, but nevermind.

I also hope that this scene is reinserted into the final movie ROTJ. I doubt it though... I guess it will remain a deleted scene.

Breather · 06-28-2011, 09:48 AM

I'd like to see this scene put back in. It doesn't look like it though. Around 11:30 on the video, it sounds like he says it's going in the deleted scenes section. Too bad.

HylianBowcaster · 06-28-2011, 09:57 AM

Yeah, it is too bad they're not doing an extended or director's cut edition. But I'm just happy to get some more deleted scenes. I've always heard of scenes from the OT that were deleted, but I've never seen them.

IndyMLVC · 06-28-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by starwarsagent

OMG! you are clueless! I saw mark hammil and george lucas last year in person at the stewart panel. He said, he's seen the scene and he finally remembers...here it is. it's him, his hands and everything confirms it.

go to 12:30 in the tape.

YouTube - ‪Star Wars Celebration V: Part 6 of 7‬&rlm;

I hope this confirms it for you.

Oh sure. NOW Mark remembers. Uh huh. That clears everything up.

I'm only slightly kidding. I don't really give a shit. Doesn't make me trust Lucas any more or less. The scene still seems cobbled together: could have been done then...or in the last year. Either way...cobbled.
I don't trust anything Lucas does anymore, unfortunately.

shelldweller · 06-28-2011, 10:07 AM

Now that we are finally done discussing the whole OOT topic and we finally know (and Octagon for month) that Lucas has in fact done more enhancing to release the complete Saga for the first time on blu-ray and in cinemas starting Feb 2012... what do you think he fixed or changed now that Star Wars is complete?

Besides, I don´t think the movies will be changed again after this one. Star Wars is out for the first time as a complete Saga with today´s technical possibilities to finish the whole Saga. It´s been said that they won´t be changed for the 3D release. Lucas said he will finally make more own movies (after Red Tails) now that Star Wars is finished.

I think the CGI Yoda in TPM is a given. I´m sure Sabers will be fixed too.

Breather · 06-28-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HylianBowcaster

Yeah, it is too bad they're not doing an extended or director's cut edition. But I'm just happy to get some more deleted scenes. I've always heard of scenes from the OT that were deleted, but I've never seen them.

Take a look here:

here:

and here:

That's just a few of them.

shelldweller · 06-28-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Anglik

http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.ph...wersji-3d.html

New blu-ray Yoda in Phantom Menace :-)

Thanks for the link... finally got it translated ;-)
Can´t wait to see the CGI Yoda in Phantom Menace. It´s a great improvement!

siso · 06-28-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shelldweller

thanks for the link... Finally got it translated ;-)
can´t wait to see the cgi yoda in phantom menace. It´s a great improvement!

+1

starwarsagent · 06-28-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Breather

Take a look here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X__nksxQxys

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkvk...eature=related

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX-wg...eature=related

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQBeI...eature=related

That's just a few of them.

The search for artoo scene should be put back in the DAMN MOVIE for GODSAKE!!! it's AWSOME!!!!!

Just fix the background with some CGI and wham...we got it. I always wanted to see C-3PO driving the landspeeder.

starwarsagent · 06-28-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anglik

http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.ph...wersji-3d.html

New blu-ray Yoda in Phantom Menace :-)

lol. that looks totally fake...looks like the scene from ROTS, I think when he's talking to chewie. The same facial features and such. I bet its a FAKE!

aiman04 · 06-28-2011, 11:00 AM

Come on guys. If it wasn't Mark Hammil in the scene, why would Lucas show it in front of Mark Hammil himself?

shelldweller · 06-28-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by starwarsagent

lol. that looks totally fake...looks like the scene from ROTS, I think when he's talking to chewie. The same facial features and such. I bet its a FAKE!

There are several other clips of the "Phantom Menace" Yoda on youtube. I went to see "Star Wars in Concert" were puppet Yoda was also replaced by the CGI Yoda.

starwarsagent · 06-28-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shelldweller

There are several other clips of the "Phantom Menace" Yoda on youtube. I went to see "Star Wars in Concert" were puppet Yoda was also replaced by the CGI Yoda.

I went to see Star Wars in concert 3 times...Never saw a CGI Yoda...I went to the first run of the concerts.

That looks fake. So, I don't know..cannot guarantee it's authenticity.

starwarsagent · 06-28-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aiman04

come on guys. If it wasn't mark hammil in the scene, why would lucas show it in front of mark hammil himself?

great post!!! Exactly!

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06-28-2011, 10:07 AM	#15571
shelldweller Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:73	Now that we are finally done discussing the whole OOT topic and we finally know (and Octagon for month) that Lucas has in fact done more enhancing to release the complete Saga for the first time on blu-ray and in cinemas starting Feb 2012... what do you think he fixed or changed now that Star Wars is complete? Besides, I don´t think the movies will be changed again after this one. Star Wars is out for the first time as a complete Saga with today´s technical possibilities to finish the whole Saga. It´s been said that they won´t be changed for the 3D release. Lucas said he will finally make more own movies (after Red Tails) now that Star Wars is finished. I think the CGI Yoda in TPM is a given. I´m sure Sabers will be fixed too. Last edited by shelldweller; 06-28-2011 at 10:09 AM.

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06-28-2011, 01:10 AM	#15561
madlost1 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Hazle Township, PA Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1258 DVD collection:341 Trading Score:42	Is it weird that I'm watching The Phantom Menace now and all I can think about is the sound of the light saber hum and how epic it will be uncompressed.

06-28-2011, 01:29 AM	#15562
flodsby Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Waldorf, MD Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:178	LOL just posted this on the lotr thread https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4893216

06-28-2011, 07:55 AM	#15565
Anglik Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:287 Trading Score:1	http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.ph...wersji-3d.html New blu-ray Yoda in Phantom Menace :-)

06-28-2011, 09:48 AM	#15568
Breather Senior Member Member since:May 2011 Location:USA	I'd like to see this scene put back in. It doesn't look like it though. Around 11:30 on the video, it sounds like he says it's going in the deleted scenes section. Too bad.

06-28-2011, 09:57 AM	#15569
HylianBowcaster Active Member Member since:Mar 2011 4K collection:67 Blu-ray collection:386	Yeah, it is too bad they're not doing an extended or director's cut edition. But I'm just happy to get some more deleted scenes. I've always heard of scenes from the OT that were deleted, but I've never seen them.

06-28-2011, 11:00 AM	#15577
aiman04 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Malaysia Home Theater Gallery:9	Come on guys. If it wasn't Mark Hammil in the scene, why would Lucas show it in front of Mark Hammil himself?

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