Mirage and Definitive Technology? - Blu-ray Forum

CrazyInBlack · 01-04-2009, 10:30 PM

A local forum had a discussion on these two types of speakers recently. Apparently the DF's are the be-all end-all of Best Buy and Mirage are a lot cheaper but still ok?

I am still learning, but I know nothing about either of these brands.

Johnny Vinyl · 01-04-2009, 11:22 PM

Make no mistake my friend...MIRAGE make very fine speakers! They're just different and you should have a listen to both. For the record, try visiting a few higher-end stores for Def-Tech's and Mirages...they'll have more of a selection and they'll deal!

Blu-Dog · 01-05-2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyInBlack

A local forum had a discussion on these two types of speakers recently. Apparently the DF's are the be-all end-all of Best Buy and Mirage are a lot cheaper but still ok?

I am still learning, but I know nothing about either of these brands.

I like Definitive, but be careful - they have distinct product lines. Check out

http://www.definitivetech.com/

The value is definitely there. I'm not familiar with Mirage, but from personal experience, you can't go wrong with Definitive.

CrazyInBlack · 01-05-2009, 12:39 AM

Thanks guys, I have been reading reviews and they seem good for DTs

I need to find a stereo shop around here, but the only one I know of shut down

Old_Guy · 01-05-2009, 01:01 AM

I have Mirage speakers, powered by a Sony STR-DG820 and I'm very satisfied with their performance. They are precise and handle everything with ease. I have an average size room and feel they could handle a larger room with ease.
The speakers I have are:
Fronts-OMNISAT V2 FS
Center-OMNISAT V2 CC
Sat.-OMNISAT V2
SUB-OMNI-S8
NOTE-The 5.0 sets, such as those at BB, do not include a Center, but instead use a 5th Nanosat or other speaker (Omni, etc).
I have auditioned this setup and feel that the Mirage systems benefits from a dedicated center. However, after listening, you may feel differently.
The Mirage line ascends from Nanosat to Omnisat to Prestige.
I found the Omni's to sound very good to me, HOWEVER-as has already been mentioned, be sure to take the time to audition these speakers and I would suggest a couple of times in different locations, if possible.
If you decide on Mirage, I feel you will be very happy with your purchase.

ozzman · 01-05-2009, 01:41 AM

I was told Definitive Technology was the closest your going to get to Mirage .
I love the older Mirages When Mirage owned there Name.But thats just me

If iam not mistaken Klipsch owns Mirage now

Colglizity · 01-05-2009, 01:55 AM

I can't say enough good things about my DefTechs. I've heard one (smaller) set of Mirage speakers, but they can't touch the DefTechs.

prerich · 01-05-2009, 03:45 AM

The original M Class Mirage speakers where in direct competition with the Def Tech BP series. The M-Class actually bested the DT's in some areas. When Mirage went omni-polar, they became a different speaker all together. Still a good speaker, but a different one.

Gremal · 01-05-2009, 04:36 AM

I probably shouldn't comment since I haven't compared the two in years. But when I was last speaker shopping Mirage was much better than Def Tech. I think DT has made strides since then and Mirage has probably lost ground.

Dust · 01-06-2009, 04:56 AM

I love my Mirage speakers (check out my HT Gallery and sig for pics/info). However, Mirage speakers do give you a different sound due to their design. I prefer the sound of the Mirage speakers. Listen to both sets and decide for yourself which sound you prefer.

gtmorgan23 · 01-06-2009, 07:47 PM

gotta be def techs all the way. They produce crisp perfect sound. You just need to go listen to an audio setup like mine. You wont be disapointed.

Waiterguy · 03-25-2009, 08:15 AM

Hey there! I am in the market for some new speakers and just auditioned the same DT's you have. After having them for a bit, have you had any issues? Do you regret your choice at all? How is the sound in the smaller center speaker? The guy at the store was trying to get me on the larger center. I appreciate any help and feedback. Thanks! Great set up by the way!

aramis109 · 03-25-2009, 03:25 PM

If you mean the BP line and the CLR centers, I have the CLR2002. I think it's a great speaker. Meshes perfectly with my BP6b's. If you're going for the larger supertowers, I would take a hard look at the CLR2300.

drago3451 · 03-25-2009, 05:10 PM

When I bought my def techs I also looked into mirage. At the time I listened to the same scene from gladiator and with all equipment being equal there was definately a large jump in quality between the two. The def techs had much more sound coming from them. I could pick up little sound effects that were not even audible on the Mirage speakers. But as others have mentioned you should demo several speakers/brands and decide for yourself.

Lanfear · 03-25-2009, 05:23 PM

I'm definitely in the Def Tech camp. Great speakers! As always, you'll have to decide which is best for you. *cough* Def Tech *cough*

kingofgrills · 03-25-2009, 05:42 PM

I like the Def Tech Mythos series towers, but I haven't really listened to anything else of theirs. I haven't heard Mirage speakers for years, and I haven't listened to any with the new tweeter setup.

rded · 03-25-2009, 11:21 PM

I have auditioned both extensively. Both speaker lines do very well for HT. Honestly, I actually owned a Def Tech pro cinema 1000 5.1 set up prior to my current rig. They were so good that they prompted me to get better speakers. The higher you get in their lines(DT and Mirage) the better they perform with music/2 channel. But IMHO the Def tech Super Towers is where the magic really is. I strongly considered the STs when I upgraded before I went with dynaudios.

aramis109 · 03-26-2009, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rded

I have auditioned both extensively. Both speaker lines do very well for HT. Honestly, I actually owned a Def Tech pro cinema 1000 5.1 set up prior to my current rig. They were so good that they prompted me to get better speakers. The higher you get in their lines(DT and Mirage) the better they perform with music/2 channel. But IMHO the Def tech Super Towers is where the magic really is. I strongly considered the STs when I upgraded before I went with dynaudios.

Someday I'll upgrade to the Supertowers. I love my BP6b's, and they're the bottom of the lineup for the BP's.

ozzman · 03-26-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prerich

The original M Class Mirage speakers where in direct competition with the Def Tech BP series. The M-Class actually bested the DT's in some areas. When Mirage went omni-polar, they became a different speaker all together. Still a good speaker, but a different one.

You boys don't know this but i send Prerich a check every month for saying That LOL

Honestly i never heard a Def Tech speaker but if there like Mirage (higher end models)then there's no doubt in my mind that they put out some amazing speakers.I just wish i could say i knew that first had

Waiterguy · 03-30-2009, 01:40 AM

I have the Pro800's, Pro1000's, Pro800 Sub and the Pro1000 center. What gauge wire do you guys suggest for that set up? I was thinking 16 gauge, just dont want to make a mistake. Thanks for the feedback

01-04-2009, 10:30 PM	#1
CrazyInBlack Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Middle, AL Blu-ray collection:13	Mirage and Definitive Technology? A local forum had a discussion on these two types of speakers recently. Apparently the DF's are the be-all end-all of Best Buy and Mirage are a lot cheaper but still ok? I am still learning, but I know nothing about either of these brands.

01-05-2009, 01:41 AM	#6
ozzman Power Member Member since:May 2008 Location:St. Catharines ONT Home Theater Gallery:37	I was told Definitive Technology was the closest your going to get to Mirage . I love the older Mirages When Mirage owned there Name.But thats just me If iam not mistaken Klipsch owns Mirage now Last edited by ozzman; 01-05-2009 at 01:44 AM.

03-25-2009, 11:21 PM	#17
rded Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Location:555 Naim Street Blu-ray collection:254 Trading Score:1	I have auditioned both extensively. Both speaker lines do very well for HT. Honestly, I actually owned a Def Tech pro cinema 1000 5.1 set up prior to my current rig. They were so good that they prompted me to get better speakers. The higher you get in their lines(DT and Mirage) the better they perform with music/2 channel. But IMHO the Def tech Super Towers is where the magic really is. I strongly considered the STs when I upgraded before I went with dynaudios. Last edited by rded; 03-25-2009 at 11:23 PM.

03-30-2009, 01:40 AM	#20
Waiterguy Banned Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:78	Best Wiring For Definitive Tech Speakers I have the Pro800's, Pro1000's, Pro800 Sub and the Pro1000 center. What gauge wire do you guys suggest for that set up? I was thinking 16 gauge, just dont want to make a mistake. Thanks for the feedback

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01-04-2009, 11:22 PM	#2
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	Make no mistake my friend...MIRAGE make very fine speakers! They're just different and you should have a listen to both. For the record, try visiting a few higher-end stores for Def-Tech's and Mirages...they'll have more of a selection and they'll deal!

01-05-2009, 12:39 AM	#4
CrazyInBlack Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Middle, AL Blu-ray collection:13	Thanks guys, I have been reading reviews and they seem good for DTs I need to find a stereo shop around here, but the only one I know of shut down

01-05-2009, 01:01 AM	#5
Old_Guy Member Member since:Jul 2008	I have Mirage speakers, powered by a Sony STR-DG820 and I'm very satisfied with their performance. They are precise and handle everything with ease. I have an average size room and feel they could handle a larger room with ease. The speakers I have are: Fronts-OMNISAT V2 FS Center-OMNISAT V2 CC Sat.-OMNISAT V2 SUB-OMNI-S8 NOTE-The 5.0 sets, such as those at BB, do not include a Center, but instead use a 5th Nanosat or other speaker (Omni, etc). I have auditioned this setup and feel that the Mirage systems benefits from a dedicated center. However, after listening, you may feel differently. The Mirage line ascends from Nanosat to Omnisat to Prestige. I found the Omni's to sound very good to me, HOWEVER-as has already been mentioned, be sure to take the time to audition these speakers and I would suggest a couple of times in different locations, if possible. If you decide on Mirage, I feel you will be very happy with your purchase.

01-05-2009, 01:55 AM	#7
Colglizity Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Washington (360) Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3	I can't say enough good things about my DefTechs. I've heard one (smaller) set of Mirage speakers, but they can't touch the DefTechs.

01-05-2009, 03:45 AM	#8
prerich Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Home Theater Gallery:50 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	The original M Class Mirage speakers where in direct competition with the Def Tech BP series. The M-Class actually bested the DT's in some areas. When Mirage went omni-polar, they became a different speaker all together. Still a good speaker, but a different one.

01-05-2009, 04:36 AM	#9
Gremal Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Daddyland Home Theater Gallery:49 Blu-ray collection:184	I probably shouldn't comment since I haven't compared the two in years. But when I was last speaker shopping Mirage was much better than Def Tech. I think DT has made strides since then and Mirage has probably lost ground.

01-06-2009, 04:56 AM	#10
Dust Member Member since:Dec 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:213	I love my Mirage speakers (check out my HT Gallery and sig for pics/info). However, Mirage speakers do give you a different sound due to their design. I prefer the sound of the Mirage speakers. Listen to both sets and decide for yourself which sound you prefer.

01-06-2009, 07:47 PM	#11
gtmorgan23 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Austin Texas Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:98	gotta be def techs all the way. They produce crisp perfect sound. You just need to go listen to an audio setup like mine. You wont be disapointed.

03-25-2009, 08:15 AM	#12
Waiterguy Banned Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:78	Hey there! I am in the market for some new speakers and just auditioned the same DT's you have. After having them for a bit, have you had any issues? Do you regret your choice at all? How is the sound in the smaller center speaker? The guy at the store was trying to get me on the larger center. I appreciate any help and feedback. Thanks! Great set up by the way!

03-25-2009, 03:25 PM	#13
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	If you mean the BP line and the CLR centers, I have the CLR2002. I think it's a great speaker. Meshes perfectly with my BP6b's. If you're going for the larger supertowers, I would take a hard look at the CLR2300.

03-25-2009, 05:10 PM	#14
drago3451 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:12 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:426 Blu-ray reviews:1	When I bought my def techs I also looked into mirage. At the time I listened to the same scene from gladiator and with all equipment being equal there was definately a large jump in quality between the two. The def techs had much more sound coming from them. I could pick up little sound effects that were not even audible on the Mirage speakers. But as others have mentioned you should demo several speakers/brands and decide for yourself.

03-25-2009, 05:23 PM	#15
Lanfear Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Long Island, NY Blu-ray collection:96	I'm definitely in the Def Tech camp. Great speakers! As always, you'll have to decide which is best for you. cough Def Tech cough

03-25-2009, 05:42 PM	#16
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	I like the Def Tech Mythos series towers, but I haven't really listened to anything else of theirs. I haven't heard Mirage speakers for years, and I haven't listened to any with the new tweeter setup.

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