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Old 02-25-2009, 03:36 PM   #1
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I am going to eventually upgrade my receiver. I was considering the denon 3808, yamaha3800 and the onkyo 875/906, but after reading some threads I'm considering this for example: Yamaha 663 with emo, outlaw,or rotel amp.

I do have a couple questions though. First how is the upconversion on the Yamaha 663, I understand the Yamaha 3800 uses the anchor bay chip. Are they comparable? The Onkyo's Reon H?? upconversion technology is supposed to be a much better than all three. Is there a separate pre/pro that offers the Onkyos upconversion chip?

Second, I would like to stream music from my laptop. This is another reason I chose the AVR's listed above. If I go with separates, will I be able to find a separate non amplifed prepro that would satisfy these requirements?

With this in mind I understand the Yamaha 663 doesn't stream.

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anyone?

Is this not common among those who use separates?

Are separates a musical thing an not used in combination with HT?

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Old 03-01-2009, 04:57 PM   #3
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This A/V proceesor seems to fit the bill(@ $1300.00 to $1500.00), for pre/pro and Emo UPA-7 for the amp. http://emotiva.com/umc1.shtm

I know its not out, but I was curious to know if the internals/build quality are better than lets say the Onkyo 875, or Denon 3808. From the specs, the Emo, has the same video processing as the Denon. Does anyone know about the DACS, bass management feature, and the speaker correction micro phone?

Or would it be better to have an AVR mentioned as the pre/pro above to run 2channels and add a Emotive XPA-5? Is it true that AVR's are the Jack of all trades and Master of none?
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I do have a couple questions though. First how is the upconversion on the Yamaha 663, I understand the Yamaha 3800 uses the anchor bay chip. Are they comparable? The Onkyo's Reon H?? upconversion technology is supposed to be a much better than all three. Is there a separate pre/pro that offers the Onkyos upconversion chip?
I don't know anything about this area but I have a question for you. The upconverting would seem like something you could really evaluate well at a HT test room like a BB Magnolia. Have you tried that or do they not have the kind of equipment you are looking at? If they don't have the exact equipment maybe they have some with the same chipset and that would tell you whether there is a notable difference. I would be curious to know if you end up seeing a difference. Every manufacturer will claim theirs is the latest and greatest but in this area seeing would be believing.
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I don't know anything about this area but I have a question for you. The upconverting would seem like something you could really evaluate well at a HT test room like a BB Magnolia. Have you tried that or do they not have the kind of equipment you are looking at? If they don't have the exact equipment maybe they have some with the same chipset and that would tell you whether there is a notable difference. I would be curious to know if you end up seeing a difference. Every manufacturer will claim theirs is the latest and greatest but in this area seeing would be believing.
Actually I have been in the local magnolia BB. I listen/watched a Denon 3808 on a Samsung LCD with some kind of background lighting, the yamaha rx-v3900 on a Sony LCD XBR. The thing is they were on two different mediums and on bluray which doesn't need upconversion. There wasn't any cable, sattelite or standard DVD to use the upconversion feature. So to answer your question, I did go however, no upconversion medium.
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anyone?

Is this not common among those who use separates?

Are separates a musical thing an not used in combination with HT?
Streaming and upconversion are usually not priorities with people who get separates. If upconversion is important to you, go with the processor that has the Reon chip. That will make a significant visual difference over the other chips, including the Anchor Bay chip mentioned. I cannot help you on the streaming issue.
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Streaming and upconversion are usually not priorities with people who get separates. If upconversion is important to you, go with the processor that has the Reon chip. That will make a significant visual difference over the other chips, including the Anchor Bay chip mentioned. I cannot help you on the streaming issue.
Thanks for the reply. This isn't completely true though, several of the new pre/pro's are including an upconversion feature. Here are acouple for example.
http://emotiva.com/umc1.shtm
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/997.html

I recently found this out after posting this thread. Streaming on the other hand is not being implemented on the intro to midrange pre/pro's.
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