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View Poll Results: What do you think about the new "Viva Eco-Friendly" cases?
I love them! Going green is important. 39 16.25%
I hate them! Give me a full case that will protect my investment. 129 53.75%
I like the idea, but I think the implementation is poor. 62 25.83%
... I have no idea what you're talking about. 10 4.17%
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:13 PM   #61
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22.4 mpg according to the federal govt (DOT and EPA study..as of 2006)

edit... this is for cars.. they separate passenger cars out from trucks... I'm not going there..

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Old 04-01-2009, 09:44 PM   #62
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I get upwards of 34 mpg highway driving in my Nissan 350z, if I keep it around 55-60 m.p.h. That is 8 mpg's more than what my car is rated. And she is a heavy car for a 2-seater, coming in around 3,300 lbs.

There are so many different factors that can affect your mpg's though, so don't believe everything you read.

It's funny the car companies are being demonized all over the place for producing "gas guzzling vehicles", yet it's us American consumers who are to blame for buying them in the first place.

Enjoy your gas guzzling cars while they last. With the route this country is taking.....sooner or later we'll all be forced to drive SmartCars.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 09:54 PM   #63
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Don't like it but do we have any say in the matter? I guess I'll just order a bunch of regular cases to replace these. Like the OP mentions, it's way too easy to puncture/damage the cover in its current form.
 
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Those that don't want them I will be happy to take them Let me know!
 
Old 04-01-2009, 10:55 PM   #65
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Slightly OT but has anyone used either of these sites for replacement cases:

http://www.tapeandmedia.com/detail.a...uct_id=BLU-RAY

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http://www.sleevetown.com/blu-ray-hd-dvd-case.shtml
 
Old 04-01-2009, 11:41 PM   #66
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Don't like it but do we have any say in the matter? I guess I'll just order a bunch of regular cases to replace these. Like the OP mentions, it's way too easy to puncture/damage the cover in its current form.
Sadly I think the cover is most likely to be damaged before anybody gets a chance to transfer it to a better case.
 
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Since you're for them and want all of yours to be like that, want to trade me two normal cases for the two I have so far?
I'll trade you two normal cases for those eco ones.
 
Old 04-02-2009, 12:25 AM   #68
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Slightly OT but has anyone used either of these sites for replacement cases:

http://www.tapeandmedia.com/detail.a...uct_id=BLU-RAY

or

http://www.sleevetown.com/blu-ray-hd-dvd-case.shtml
Hmm, from the tapeandmedia website... This seems to be the REAL reason behind the new packaging.

Recent Price Increase: With the recent increase in the price of petroleum, the cost of manufacturing CD and DVD cases has increased markedly. The CD/DVD case manufacturers have raised their prices and unfortunately, we are having to pass these increases on to our customers. (8/1/2008)
 
Old 04-02-2009, 12:28 AM   #69
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They feel flimsy and weak. Please get rid of them ASAP!
 
Old 04-02-2009, 12:49 AM   #70
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I am all for them. I drive a hybrid. I recycle (at home and work).

The best numbers I can find is there were 248 million dvd's sold in 2007. So lets say that 200 million were in standard amray cases. If you could save 30%, that would cut down on 60 million dvd cases. That doesn't include software cases or game cases by the way.

If you stacked those cases up it would reach 1732 miles into space.

If you laid them on their side, end to end, they would almost reach around the earth (23611 miles).

30% is a lot...... if you put in in perspective. Every little bit helps and you have to start somewhere.
I agree with this. I wonder though - could these be redesigned to save as much plastic, but do it with a lot more tiny holes instead of these large ones?
 
Old 04-02-2009, 12:52 AM   #71
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I certainly like the idea and I've never met a case that bothered me all that much. I used to care far more but it's fallen to wayside for me.
 
Old 04-02-2009, 02:34 AM   #72
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I agree with this. I wonder though - could these be redesigned to save as much plastic, but do it with a lot more tiny holes instead of these large ones?

That is exactly what I was thinking. Good idea. Bad implementation.
 
Old 04-02-2009, 07:12 AM   #73
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You know I was thinking they already shrunk the cases from DVD cases...why couldn't they shrink them again down to the size of a slightly bigger jewel case? And if they want to save on plastic, would putting a few pin head sized holes throughout the case coupled with the smaller case save as much if not more plastic than these crap-cases? Done properly you could save plastic while preserving the integrity of the case/artwork and the safety of the disc.
 
Old 04-02-2009, 09:05 AM   #74
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To me this is a bs way of recycling, if they want to really make an impact, I say go cardboard. I think that wall E the DVD did that and the there will be blood DVD. I would like to move over in that direction, the cardboard that is. This is just a way for them to make people feel better about the plastic case while at the same time removing the plastic where it needs to be to protect the disk. Other solutions; The shape of the cases themselves are too large for how big the disk is, you could remove a lot of plastic by making the case smaller and keep it just as safe! To me this screams no thought marketing ploy.
 
Old 04-02-2009, 03:08 PM   #75
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To me this is a bs way of recycling, if they want to really make an impact, I say go cardboard. I think that wall E the DVD did that and the there will be blood DVD. I would like to move over in that direction, the cardboard that is. This is just a way for them to make people feel better about the plastic case while at the same time removing the plastic where it needs to be to protect the disk. Other solutions; The shape of the cases themselves are too large for how big the disk is, you could remove a lot of plastic by making the case smaller and keep it just as safe! To me this screams no thought marketing ploy.
you hit the nail on the head, anyone that thinks that this is being done to be eco friendly and save the environment is being extremely naive, the companies producing these cases are doing this to save money on production and to try and sell a few more copies to people that are really big on the whole "going green" thing
 
Old 04-02-2009, 03:37 PM   #76
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Other solutions; The shape of the cases themselves are too large for how big the disk is, you could remove a lot of plastic by making the case smaller and keep it just as safe! To me this screams no thought marketing ploy.
DVD cases are taller than they are wide because of the format of movie poster art. Home video has always sought to maintain the AR of the movie poster, even if they create alternate art for the VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray. I don't see this shape going away any time soon.
 
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DVD cases are taller than they are wide because of the format of movie poster art. Home video has always sought to maintain the AR of the movie poster, even if they create alternate art for the VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray. I don't see this shape going away any time soon.
Not true. The only reason they are this shape and size is because of VHS tapes. Originally studios could have used a CD sized jewel case ,but decided against it because people would confuse it with a CD and not realize it is a movie, VHS tapes and to the same extent BETA tapes were pretty much the same shape, if not the same size. People were used to getting their movies in a rectangular case. Also the format of the art on almost all laserdisc releases was square, not the same shape as a movie poster.
 
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Well, I've never seen those type of cases, physically. My copy of Quantum of Solace, like all the other copies in the store and all the other 007 titles there too, all seemed to come in the same casing - which is the usual BD casing. But, if I start noticing these type of cases, luckily the store I buy most of my Blu-rays sells empty cases (usually the better type - with the locking tab on the side and the embossed logo at the top) for like a buck, so I'm safe.
 
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omg my silence of the lambs BD got destroyed! i don't know HOW it's been on my shelf the WHOLE TIME but because of the flimsy case i guess IT IS DESTROYED omg...
 
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Law of unintended consequences: Since I won't use these Eco-friendly cases I will order standards and swap out the case. Since I can't trade a movie not originally in an Eco-friendly case to someone in one, I will be throwing all Eco-friendly cases away.
 
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