Crank 2 playback issues - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

hometheatergeek · 09-08-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fdm

Thanks for the warning, though I already have a card in my player. Wonder if it would behave the same way had you disconnected your ethernet cable first...

Yes because when I first tried to load the movie it was not connected. That is what sent me down the path of trying to figure out what was wrong. It still boils down to a memory card.

Rik1138 · 09-08-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hometheatergeek

On my player it would not get that far. Your PS3 has internal memory and you would see the screen asking you if you want the update. My player would not get to that screen until I allowed BD-Live in the player and then at that point I quess I should have said no.

Eventually my drive to fix things got in my way. It really should not be this aggravating to get a movie to load don't you think?

I still think there should be a default 'play the longest PlayList' option on all players. That way if there's problems like this, you can at least still watch the film (assuming they don't have a bonus feature longer than the film I suppose...

).

My player at home has BD-Live turned off. I don't ever want it connecting to the internet for any reason... So I've never really had a problem with it (Wasn't it Iron Man that caused a whole lot of problems with downloads on release day? I never noticed because I wouldn't let my player connect...)

At the very least, I've learned not to let new releases touch the internet for at least a few days after the release...

But you are definitely correct, it should never be a hassle to get a movie to start playing... You have a happy customer with their new disc, and all they want to do is see the movie... If that doesn't happen in reasonable amount of time, you will quickly have a very unhappy customer... Can't be good for sales, regardless of where the 'fault' lies...

X-Ninja · 09-08-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nycomet

Did you eject your Crank and stick it back in?

lmao. Man, i remember seeing you around here all the time constantly cracking sex jokes about tweeters and mounting TVs. Everyone got pissed at you while i was laughing like some little kid. >.>
Back at it again i see?

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Originally Posted by nycomet

Since it doesn't work on your BD player, I'll give you $10 for Crank 2. Seriously. Send me a PM.

Dick move.

hometheatergeek · 09-08-2009, 10:56 PM

Ok I just went back to the system and took the SD card out and it has the same original problem.

Bottom line should be that Lionsgate and all the other studios should put on the back of the cover that " This movie requires either internal memory or an external SD card in order for the movie to load properly." If they want this format to have a lifespan, then they need to start this procedure now.

Rik1138 · 09-08-2009, 11:23 PM

Hmm, interesting. We have a BD30 and a BD50 here. I tried it on both-
BD30 never showed the update screen at all (which I wouldn't expect, since it's not an internet-enabled player). A white screen with a small black square in the upper left corner appeared for a couple of seconds, and then the menus loaded (never saw this white screen on the PS3).

BD50- Did the 'checking for updates' thing, and then flashed the same white screen/black square for a couple of seconds and started loading the menus... It never asked me to download the update... Not sure why. One thing- no SD card in the player. Maybe the newer players now check the size of the download, and verify that there's room to download it first... Maybe the BD35 doesn't do this verification? Does the problem seem to be that it tries to download the update even without an SD card, and can't store the whole thing (or any of it)? As soon as I find an SD card, I'll try it again and see what it does...

Rik

Snyder-man · 09-08-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nycomet

I'll give you $10 for it. PM me if interested.

lol +1

Blu Myers · 09-08-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nycomet

Did you eject your Crank and stick it back in?

The only BD that I have that had "hang time" was Braveheart. It only happened the first time I loaded it into my PS3 (note: I have BD-Live disabled). Once I reloaded it, the movie played fine.

This doesn't work. I recommend condoms.

hometheatergeek · 09-08-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rik1138

Hmm, interesting. We have a BD30 and a BD50 here. I tried it on both-
BD30 never showed the update screen at all (which I wouldn't expect, since it's not an internet-enabled player). A white screen with a small black square in the upper left corner appeared for a couple of seconds, and then the menus loaded (never saw this white screen on the PS3).

BD50- Did the 'checking for updates' thing, and then flashed the same white screen/black square for a couple of seconds and started loading the menus... It never asked me to download the update... Not sure why. One thing- no SD card in the player. Maybe the newer players now check the size of the download, and verify that there's room to download it first... Maybe the BD35 doesn't do this verification? Does the problem seem to be that it tries to download the update even without an SD card, and can't store the whole thing (or any of it)? As soon as I find an SD card, I'll try it again and see what it does...

Rik

BD 30 is not 2.0. You saw the same white screen with black square that I saw. On the 35 you do not see this " download the update" screen, it never loads unless you have the SD card installed.

I just tried it on my older Sony BDP-s500 (1.0 profile) and it loaded with no problem. ERRRR

Kryptonic · 09-08-2009, 11:49 PM

BD Live is the worst thing to happen to BD players. Ugh.

Blu Titan · 09-08-2009, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycomet

Did you eject your Crank and stick it back in?

The only BD that I have that had "hang time" was Braveheart. It only happened the first time I loaded it into my PS3 (note: I have BD-Live disabled). Once I reloaded it, the movie played fine.

nycomet is back in form.

solarrdadd · 09-09-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by langn08

Won't play on my insignia

which insignia player do you have? if your talking about the NS-BRDVD, a firmware was released for it about a month or so ago, if you haven't installed it then this may help, unless your talking about the N2-BRDVD.

i don't have the movie but i have an Oppo blu player but i still, in the basement have my NS-BRDVD, so once i get it i'll try it on both.

cheezz · 09-09-2009, 08:55 AM

Anyone having problems playing this disc?

EvilshenaniganZ · 09-09-2009, 09:05 AM

Just got done reading this at AVS. Maybe it will help you.
Open letter to Lionsgate's Crank 2

kacihd · 09-09-2009, 09:28 AM

I've only read the first page but I can't believe how rude people were being to the OP.

I didn't have any issue getting it to play on my ps3 but I agreed to their EULA right away not knowing there could be an issue if you don't. It does however play very sluggish! I had to hit fast forward 3 times to get it to go at 10x. Then it takes a few seconds to recognize I've pressed pause or stop. It's a great movie IMO and the PQ is outstanding, but these issues are still disappointing.

lghaze42 · 09-09-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometheatergeek

Ok I just went back to the system and took the SD card out and it has the same original problem.

Bottom line should be that Lionsgate and all the other studios should put on the back of the cover that " This movie requires either internal memory or an external SD card in order for the movie to load properly." If they want this format to have a lifespan, then they need to start this procedure now.

It played perfectly in my BD-30.I have'nt done any updates in like forever either.

hometheatergeek · 09-09-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kacihd

I've only read the first page but I can't believe how rude people were being to the OP.

Thx for that but my original post was alot more offensive to Lionsgate before I edited my post. I should never PWA (Post While Aggravated) again.

It appears that this problem disc will not load on certain 2.0 profile players unless you use an external memory card.

All 1.0 and 1.1 profile players such as the Panasonic BD-30 or Sony's BDP-300 or 500 will not have a problem because they can not use BD-Live.

All players that are 2.0 profile that have built in memory i.e. PS3 or the OPPO 83 will not have this problem.

Hope this helps anyone who wants to watch Crank 2. And maybe you will not do what I did and PWA.

BTW the bass in this movie is its only saving grace.

KilloWertz · 09-09-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilshenaniganZ

Just got done reading this at AVS. Maybe it will help you.
Open letter to Lionsgate's Crank 2

That's his own open letter.

aramis109 · 09-09-2009, 05:12 PM

Worked fine for me. Rented it last night. Too bad I really didn't like the movie much at all. PQ and AQ were great, but the movie was just too far over the top for me. It "jumped the shark" with a certain scene at a pool.

Dwayne · 09-09-2009, 06:07 PM

I own a Sony BD 360 and a Panasonic BD 60 and all I get is it tries to load but after a few minutes and a white screen and then audio starts and a 6" picture starts it stops. I have no Internet connection at all but with the newest players that have only been on the shelves a couple of months you would think that a firmware update is not necessary. Panasonic told me this is definately a disc issue from Lionsgate. I do not know what to do. VERY UPSET AND CONFUSED. Both of these players have never once hesitated on any disc and we use them alot. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

solarrdadd · 09-09-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramis109

Worked fine for me. Rented it last night. Too bad I really didn't like the movie much at all. PQ and AQ were great, but the movie was just too far over the top for me. It "jumped the shark" with a certain scene at a pool.

Yeah, but if you saw the first one and you know the character, it's supposed to be over the top! I can't wait to see it!

09-09-2009, 08:55 AM	#52
cheezz Member Member since:Oct 2008	Crank 2 with Panny DMP-55 Anyone having problems playing this disc?

09-09-2009, 09:05 AM	#53
EvilshenaniganZ Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	Just got done reading this at AVS. Maybe it will help you. Open letter to Lionsgate's Crank 2 Last edited by EvilshenaniganZ; 09-09-2009 at 09:06 AM. Reason: avs not av

09-09-2009, 06:07 PM	#59
Dwayne Expert Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex Blu-ray reviews:1	Crank 2 does nothing on my two new players. I own a Sony BD 360 and a Panasonic BD 60 and all I get is it tries to load but after a few minutes and a white screen and then audio starts and a 6" picture starts it stops. I have no Internet connection at all but with the newest players that have only been on the shelves a couple of months you would think that a firmware update is not necessary. Panasonic told me this is definately a disc issue from Lionsgate. I do not know what to do. VERY UPSET AND CONFUSED. Both of these players have never once hesitated on any disc and we use them alot. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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09-08-2009, 10:56 PM	#44
hometheatergeek Blu-ray Grand Duke Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Near Atlanta GA Home Theater Gallery:48 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:290 DVD collection:40 Trading Score:2	Ok I just went back to the system and took the SD card out and it has the same original problem. Bottom line should be that Lionsgate and all the other studios should put on the back of the cover that " This movie requires either internal memory or an external SD card in order for the movie to load properly." If they want this format to have a lifespan, then they need to start this procedure now.

09-08-2009, 11:23 PM	#45
Rik1138 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:L.A., CA 4K collection:45 Blu-ray collection:314 DVD collection:128 Digital collection:20 iTunes collection:1535 Trading Score:11	Hmm, interesting. We have a BD30 and a BD50 here. I tried it on both- BD30 never showed the update screen at all (which I wouldn't expect, since it's not an internet-enabled player). A white screen with a small black square in the upper left corner appeared for a couple of seconds, and then the menus loaded (never saw this white screen on the PS3). BD50- Did the 'checking for updates' thing, and then flashed the same white screen/black square for a couple of seconds and started loading the menus... It never asked me to download the update... Not sure why. One thing- no SD card in the player. Maybe the newer players now check the size of the download, and verify that there's room to download it first... Maybe the BD35 doesn't do this verification? Does the problem seem to be that it tries to download the update even without an SD card, and can't store the whole thing (or any of it)? As soon as I find an SD card, I'll try it again and see what it does... Rik

09-08-2009, 11:49 PM	#49
Kryptonic Suspended Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:45	BD Live is the worst thing to happen to BD players. Ugh.

09-09-2009, 09:28 AM	#54
kacihd Member Member since:Jun 2009	I've only read the first page but I can't believe how rude people were being to the OP. I didn't have any issue getting it to play on my ps3 but I agreed to their EULA right away not knowing there could be an issue if you don't. It does however play very sluggish! I had to hit fast forward 3 times to get it to go at 10x. Then it takes a few seconds to recognize I've pressed pause or stop. It's a great movie IMO and the PQ is outstanding, but these issues are still disappointing.

09-09-2009, 05:12 PM	#58
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Worked fine for me. Rented it last night. Too bad I really didn't like the movie much at all. PQ and AQ were great, but the movie was just too far over the top for me. It "jumped the shark" with a certain scene at a pool.

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