300 encode better for BD than HDDVD???

[Papi4baby]

I haven't seen, nor will i the HDDVD version, but is the encoded for it on BD better? I seen the bitrates as high as 26 using VC1 thats the highest i seen with vc1. Any of you neutral guys care to chime in thanks alot.

Reason i ask, is from i what i read is most of HDDVD films dont go past 10! Any true to this.

[patrick99]

One of the ridiculous HT magazines actually gave the HD DVD a better PQ rating than the BD.

[WickyWoo]

It's identical, bit for bit. Exactly the same

[Manco]

It's identical, bit for bit. Exactly the same

Come on Wicky...BD has an aura that just makes movies look better, even with the same encode.

[blujacket]

Originally Posted by patrick99

One of the ridiculous HT magazines actually gave the HD DVD a better PQ rating than the BD.

Yea, saw that it Sound & Vision. What a clown. I believe them & Home Theater mag are drinking the red kool aid.

[alain turgeon]

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

I haven't seen, nor will i the HDDVD version, but is the encoded for it on BD better? I seen the bitrates as high as 26 using VC1 thats the highest i seen with vc1. Any of you neutral guys care to chime in thanks alot.

Reason i ask, is from i what i read is most of HDDVD films dont go past 10! Any true to this.

If you want to see vc1 at high bitrate you should look at Déja vu.

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by blujacket

Yea, saw that it Sound & Vision. What a clown. I believe them & Home Theater mag are drinking the red kool aid.

So do you want the blu pill or the red pill? Take the blu pill and see how far the rabbit hole really goes?

[tron3]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It's identical, bit for bit. Exactly the same

I am shocked to hear that come out of your mouth. But, carrying the wieght that you do, I have to believe it. But what about the sound?

I suppose lots of movies encoded with VC1 on 30gb HD-DVD would look identicle to blu-ray with the same encode. Assuming that the extra space on blu-ray is all extra's, and not used to improve pic quality. But c'mon, that bit rate has to make a difference - even a small one.

[WickyWoo]

I am shocked to hear that come out of your mouth. But, carrying the wieght that you do, I have to believe it. But what about the sound?

Why? It's common knowlege that Warner recycles their HD DVD compression for Blu-Ray. MS even wrote a tool that just goes in and changes the block size to fit Blu.

I suppose lots of movies encoded with VC1 on 30gb HD-DVD would look identicle to blu-ray with the same encode. Assuming that the extra space on blu-ray is all extra's, and not used to improve pic quality. But c'mon, that bit rate has to make a difference - even a small one.

That's not what I said. I said that 300 on Blu's video is identical to HD DVD, not that doing Blu-centric encodes can't improve things

[tron3]

So when I bought 300 on blu-ray, I bought something that was made for HD-DVD? I feel so dirty now.

"Still unclean, still unclean. Stink of failure still on me. Still unlcean." -Homer in the tub / Simpsons

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by tron3

I am shocked to hear that come out of your mouth. But, carrying the wieght that you do, I have to believe it. But what about the sound?

I suppose lots of movies encoded with VC1 on 30gb HD-DVD would look identicle to blu-ray with the same encode. Assuming that the extra space on blu-ray is all extra's, and not used to improve pic quality. But c'mon, that bit rate has to make a difference - even a small one.

I am afraid that you are just wrong on this point. As WW says, it is well known that Warner gives us exactly the same picture they give the red side.

[Curumo]

of course it is better on blu... when i put hddvd version in my ps3, it shows "unable to procede due to a low average bitrate of fbi warning message" )))

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by tron3

So when I bought 300 on blu-ray, I bought something that was made for HD-DVD? I feel so dirty now.

"Still unclean, still unclean. Stink of failure still on me. Still unlcean." -Homer in the tub / Simpsons

Yes, that is why so many of us have such very mixed feelings about Warner. Unfortunately, since August 20, it has been necessary to hold our tongues.

[Homey]

Identical, unfortunately like Alexander

[blujacket]

Originally Posted by wsciv123

So do you want the blu pill or the red pill? Take the blu pill and see how far the rabbit hole really goes?

[Homey]

Originally Posted by wsciv123

So do you want the blu pill or the red pill? Take the blu pill and see how far the rabbit hole really goes?

I thought it was the red pill that was the one in the Matrix for the showing of the rabbit hole...

[tron3]

Originally Posted by patrick99

Yes, that is why so many of us have such very mixed feelings about Warner. Unfortunately, since August 20, it has been necessary to hold our tongues.

I have to agree. If they went blu-ray exclusive, they might not even bother trying to improve the quality. But it would be one more nail in the coffin of HD-DVD. Sacrifices have to be made.

[oneaaron]

Originally Posted by Homey

I thought it was the red pill that was the one in the Matrix for the showing of the rabbit hole...

it is, I think it said " Take the blue pill the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

I think a better quote for blu-ray would be " I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here. Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by tron3

I have to agree. If they went blu-ray exclusive, they might not even bother trying to improve the quality. But it would be one more nail in the coffin of HD-DVD. Sacrifices have to be made.

Warner exclusively blue would be the end we all want so badly.