I thought all Lossless Was the Same.. NOT!!!! - Blu-ray Forum

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:22 AM

Well we've debated over and over about DTS MA being better than Dolby True HD. Some say the are the same and some prefer DTS MA over Dolby True HD. Well I believe the facts are on the table now. Lord of the Rings was originally scheduled for Dolby True HD 5.1 now it is being Switched to DTS-MA 6.1. LOL i wonder why. They aren't the same, if they were the studio wouldn't of done this right.

CANT DENY THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:27 AM

If they made the switch because they wanted to use the "best" codec, they would've used PCM. I'm sure money has nothing to do with it, though

. But yeah . . . they're the same.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

If they made the switch because they wanted to use the "best" codec, they would've used PCM. I'm sure money has nothing to do with it, though

. But yeah . . . they're the same.

sorry man, you wrong. they wouldnt of switched, It seems like your trying to prove something that isnt valid

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by deeman54

sorry man, you wrong. they wouldnt of switched, It seems like your trying to prove something that isnt valid

Yeah, I hate losing data when I zip and reopen an Excel sheet.

Oh yeah . . . that doesn't happen.

And again, if the companies wanted to use the "best" codec, they would have stuck with PCM.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

Yeah, I hate losing data when I zip and reopen an Excel sheet.

Oh yeah . . . that doesn't happen.

I think you guys are a little mis informed. If they were the same, like you guys love to try to prove. There wouldnt be 2 different formats. They pick from the 2 to reproduced the original sound, and it seems that DTS can handle more the Dolby, thats why its different.

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:34 AM

Ok, so why didn't they switch it from Dolby to PCM? Also, by your rationale, both Wal Mart and Target should not exist, since they are two separate companies that do the same thing.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:35 AM

PCM is uncompressed right. Thats takes up way more space, and sometimes you need compression with some of these movies, they're just too loud for a HT

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:36 AM

LOL, volume has nothing to do with it. Sorry, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:40 AM

ok, im not going to argue, i just wanted to see what kinda excuse you false believers had. Thats all, and you've proven me just right. You guys want them to be the same but they aren't. SIMPLE

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:45 AM

Well . . . if you're going to make a bogus claim, at least try and back it up a little . . . maybe with some facts.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

Well . . . if you're going to make a bogus claim, at least try and back it up a little . . . maybe with some facts.

The facts are on the table, the studio switched it because DTS can handle LOTR's thats it FINAL, POINT BLANK. Go argue with Warner Brothers and tell ask the why did they switch it if its the same LOL.

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 05:48 AM

So . . . what about LOTR is it that Dolby couldn't handle? Since you have the inside scoop.

recS-12 · 03-05-2010, 05:52 AM

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by recS-12

lol

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by deeman54

lol

So nothing, then?

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

So nothing, then?

dude im done with it, Warner changed the codec for a reason, so stop being in denial, thats all im asking. You're trying to prove that the world is flat.

BStecke · 03-05-2010, 06:07 AM

You're attempting to make an argument based on something you know nothing about. I could probably make a better case for the world being flat than you could a case about how DTS can better handle LOTR. Typical fanboy mentality, though. Can't stand behind your claims and unwilling to admit that you make absolutely no sense.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

You're attempting to make an argument based on something you know nothing about. I could probably make a better case for the world being flat than you could a case about how DTS can better handle LOTR. Typical fanboy mentality, though. Can't stand behind your claims and unwilling to admit that you make absolutely no sense.

ok, doesn't change anything tho.

RocShemp · 03-05-2010, 06:09 AM

Although the end result is the same, it's quicker and easier to encode in DTS-HD MA than it is in Dolby TrueHD. And PCM takes far too much space and thus the video would have to take a hit.

lDlisturb3d · 03-05-2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

Although the end result is the same, it's quicker and easier to encode in DTS-HD MA than it is in Dolby TrueHD. And PCM takes far too much space and thus the video would have to take a hit.

Well i agree with the PCM, but DTS-MA is engineered better than True HD

03-05-2010, 05:22 AM	#1
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	I thought all Lossless Was the Same.. NOT!!!! Well we've debated over and over about DTS MA being better than Dolby True HD. Some say the are the same and some prefer DTS MA over Dolby True HD. Well I believe the facts are on the table now. Lord of the Rings was originally scheduled for Dolby True HD 5.1 now it is being Switched to DTS-MA 6.1. LOL i wonder why. They aren't the same, if they were the studio wouldn't of done this right. CANT DENY THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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03-05-2010, 05:27 AM	#2
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	If they made the switch because they wanted to use the "best" codec, they would've used PCM. I'm sure money has nothing to do with it, though . But yeah . . . they're the same.

03-05-2010, 05:34 AM	#6
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Ok, so why didn't they switch it from Dolby to PCM? Also, by your rationale, both Wal Mart and Target should not exist, since they are two separate companies that do the same thing.

03-05-2010, 05:35 AM	#7
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	PCM is uncompressed right. Thats takes up way more space, and sometimes you need compression with some of these movies, they're just too loud for a HT

03-05-2010, 05:36 AM	#8
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	LOL, volume has nothing to do with it. Sorry, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

03-05-2010, 05:40 AM	#9
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	ok, im not going to argue, i just wanted to see what kinda excuse you false believers had. Thats all, and you've proven me just right. You guys want them to be the same but they aren't. SIMPLE

03-05-2010, 05:45 AM	#10
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Well . . . if you're going to make a bogus claim, at least try and back it up a little . . . maybe with some facts.

03-05-2010, 05:48 AM	#12
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	So . . . what about LOTR is it that Dolby couldn't handle? Since you have the inside scoop.

03-05-2010, 05:52 AM	#13
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03-05-2010, 06:07 AM	#17
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	You're attempting to make an argument based on something you know nothing about. I could probably make a better case for the world being flat than you could a case about how DTS can better handle LOTR. Typical fanboy mentality, though. Can't stand behind your claims and unwilling to admit that you make absolutely no sense.

03-05-2010, 06:09 AM	#19
RocShemp Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray reviews:2	Although the end result is the same, it's quicker and easier to encode in DTS-HD MA than it is in Dolby TrueHD. And PCM takes far too much space and thus the video would have to take a hit.

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