Will 3D Blu make your 2D Blu feel obsolete ?

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

If you're doing all that stuff while you're watching a movie, then you're not really getting into it and paying attention anyway, so 3D wouldn't enhance your experience much at all, and there wouldn't be any point in you spending your money on it.

LOL

Surely you didn't take me literally...I don't do all of those things; but they're all possibilities.

I'm sure 3D would enhance my viewing experience, I'm just not sure I want to wear what look to be nerdy glasses to get that experience. I can see that getting old really quick.

Now if some genius figures out a way to do it that doesn't involve me donning a pair of glasses? I'm in.

Until then, I'll pee in 2D.

[in2video2]

Although I'd like to think of myself as one of the quick adopters, 3D is not very appealing considering the quality of recent movies unleashed upon us all. I even saw Avatar twice, first time on a regular screen in 3D, then in an IMAX 3D presentation. I was more impressed with the non-IMAX presentation. I am waiting for more Catalogue Blu-Ray releases to start being released - this will help preserve our film legacy. I am more easily impressed by quality than all the gimmicks 3D has offered so far. Although I am in the market to upgrade to a Flat Panel Plasma, I'd rather buy a high quality 2D HDTV than be bothered with glasses. Historically the problem with 3D has always been the glasses - 3D WITHOUT glasses - now that might get my attention.

Short answer: My 2D Blus have nothing to fear...

[-shadow-]

It all depends on what the director(s) have intended for that specific movie. Sure i really don't see myself sitting in the living room with glasses on, but for a movie that was made in 3D and ment to be seen in 3D (Avatar though the movie was averge or Alice in Wonderland) i am willing to put them on... And ofcourse my "old" discs dont have to be afraid for any replacement, i just keep them as they are... There good enough now, and will be when this 3D craze takes very weird proportions

[Blove23]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Just like 2D Blu makes me want to not watch DVD anymore.

Will 3D Blu make you not want to not watch 2D Blu anymore ?

No! One reason is you would have to buy all new equipment to get to full effect of 3D. It may be to price if you dropped good money on a large screen with in 2009!

[that1guystudios]

I just set up the 3-D Panasonic TV(50vt20) and 3-D Blu-ray player in Magnolia/Best Buy, where I work. The 3D on this TV has to be seen to be believed. It blows every other 3D experience I've had out of the water, and in my opinion was better than the 3D at the movie theater. And I've seen a LOT of movies in 3D...probably nearly 20 now. I also set up the Samsung 3D LED, it however, was quite a letdown...it can't even display full 1080p in 3D, it's actually more like Standard Def. It also had a lot of flicker, and looked downright awful in my opinion when compared to the Panasonic.

[little flower]

I will still enjoy my 2D Blu-ray player and 2D Blu-ray movies even though this new way of watching movies in Blu-ray 3D is coming out. I also like the way my 3D Blu-ray movies look on my 2D Blu-ray player and 2D HDTV.

Another thing is I still like standard Dvds. I still watch movies on standard Dvd. Some of my movies that I like have not come out on Blu-ray yet. Also some shows that I like such as "The Andy Griffith Show" have not come out on Blu-ray yet.

[Mark L.]

I think 3D Blue-ray will become a nitch market. Unless we are left with no other choice. As long as the movies will be released in 2D I'll buy them instead. Did anyone get a chance to see if the latest 3D TVs are all there cracked up to be?

[Q?]

Originally Posted by Mark L.

I think 3D Blue-ray will become a nitch market. Unless we are left with no other choice. As long as the movies will be released in 2D I'll buy them instead. Did anyone get a chance to see if the latest 3D TVs are all there cracked up to be?

you've been a member for over a year, it's Blu-ray, it's ok... I won't tell anybody

[Anthony P]

lol

[KS76]

Iwent to Best Buy today and got to see both the Panasonic and the Samsung setups, and they were both incredible and blew me away. The 3D image on both was much better than I expected, they were better than what I've seen at the theater. I can already tell that this is the future of television and movies. In 5 years all new TV's will be 3d capable and eventually we won't need glasses anymore.

The Panasonic demo had scenes from nature videos and documentaries of world locations.

The Samsung demo had Monsters vs. Aliens.

I wasn't expecting this tech to look better than what I've seen at the theater (Avatar, Final Destination and Alice in Wonderland,) but the home tech does look better.

In my opinion, 3d tv's will be to current tv's what color tv's were to black and white, it is that dramatic an effect and experience. When I can afford one, I'll be getting a 3dtv 55 inches or up, no less.

[lamont360]

I recently took a trip to Best Buy and watched Monsters and Aliens on the Samsung they had up for viewing. I was pessimistic due to all the negative feed back the Samsung had received with its 3D tv. honestly, it was pretty awesome. It was clear, the picture was sharp, the 3D element wasn't Bam in your face, simply immersive, which is what I think it should be. If the Panasonic is supposed to kick the Samsung's butt, then I'm very excited to see it on display. Color me impressed and wishing I had about $4000 to spend on a new tv and a few pairs of those outrageously overpriced glasses.

Also an interesting feature of the Samsung was that it can turn any source into a "3D" image. The sales person at BB said that it worked well sometimes... and then not well at all at other times. But it should be more incentive for people choosing a tv if they are wanting to watch a whole lot of 2D movies in 3D.

I'm more of a Panny/Plasma guy myself... but just passing the info along

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

lol

At what?

(I know you're a cheerful fellow, but I'd hate to see you doing that if somebody dropped a piano on a little baby kitty or something)

[jobrro]

For the most part no. I'll buy 3D Blu-rays for new movies, since it can go back to 2D anyway(provided Video Quality/Supplements are the same), but I won't be replacing titles unless I see them for a reasonable price and they were rendered in properly 3D(like Bolt, Toy Storys).

I don't see the sense in re-releasing catalogue titles shot in 2D in 3D, especially when articles I've seen on 3DTVs say that the TVs can 'upconvert' 2D to 3D in real time anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'll most likely leave that feature off regardless, as Blu-ray has brought the purist out in me, and now I know and love OAR, a bit of grain and other film niceties that I didn't even think of back in the days of DVD/VHS.

[Blove23]

Also an interesting feature of the Samsung was that it can turn any source into a "3D" image. The sales person at BB said that it worked well sometimes... and then not well at all at other times. But it should be more incentive for people choosing a tv if they are wanting to watch a whole lot of 2D movies in 3D.

[/QUOTE]

That Best Buy Consult missed informed you with information about Samsung tv's turning any source into a 3D image. For a 3D tv to reproduce a 3D source the source has to be 3D as well. That's the crazy thing about 3d if you get one 3d television every other source has to be 3D as well. If you buy a 3d television then you need a 3d blu-ray and 3d AVR. 3D becomes expensive when you think about the money you have to spend on multiple 3d glass.

[FIREitUP913]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

LOL

Surely you didn't take me literally...I don't do all of those things; but they're all possibilities.

I'm sure 3D would enhance my viewing experience, I'm just not sure I want to wear what look to be nerdy glasses to get that experience. I can see that getting old really quick.

Now if some genius figures out a way to do it that doesn't involve me donning a pair of glasses? I'm in.

Until then, I'll pee in 2D.

Does this guy seriously not want to experience 3D because he has to wear "nerdy" glasses? Wow, so now not only do people care what another people think, they seem to have a problem with self image when they are in the comfort of their own house?
Feel sorry for ya, and its people like this that give 3D a bad name. I saw the panasonic 3D demo at best buy, and its amazing! If you don't want to wear glasses and experience 3D because you look "nerdy" in your own home than there seems to be self image problems, no an issue with 3D.

[Briscogun]

I can not see a scenario right now that will ever make me buy anything in 3-D. My life is in 3-D, why the heck do I need movies that way? It's a gimmick: always has been, always will be. If we start to need to wear "accessories" in order to watch TV or movies, that has to be one of the seven signs of the impending apocolypse.

3-D only works on movie screens where your entire field of vision is taken up by the screen. When you have 3-D and "normal" eyesight in the same FOV, then it seriously compromises any "benefit" from the additional dimension.

If all the Avatards want to run out and purchase the new sets and players so they can get their Pandora swerve on, then go for it. But don't tell the rest of us that it's the "wave of the future" and we have to get on the bandwagon or get left behind. Trust me, of all the people I know in this world, not one of them is even remotely interested or intrigued by this. That's just me and my world, though. My little 2-D, blu-ray filled world...

[FIREitUP913]

Originally Posted by Briscogun

I can not see a scenario right now that will ever make me buy anything in 3-D. My life is in 3-D, why the heck do I need movies that way? It's a gimmick: always has been, always will be. If we start to need to wear "accessories" in order to watch TV or movies, that has to be one of the seven signs of the impending apocolypse.

3-D only works on movie screens where your entire field of vision is taken up by the screen. When you have 3-D and "normal" eyesight in the same FOV, then it seriously compromises any "benefit" from the additional dimension.

If all the Avatards want to run out and purchase the new sets and players so they can get their Pandora swerve on, then go for it. But don't tell the rest of us that it's the "wave of the future" and we have to get on the bandwagon or get left behind. Trust me, of all the people I know in this world, not one of them is even remotely interested or intrigued by this. That's just me and my world, though. My little 2-D, blu-ray filled world...

You need to calm down a bit. I saw the Panasonic 3D demoed at best buy and I would say the 3D image quality was better than the theatres. Do you visit the HDGuru website? He reviewed the panny 3D tv and ALSO states the 3d quality is better than what he saw at the theatres. Here is the link to the review: http://hdguru.com/panasonic-tc-p50vt...t-review/1391/
Let me quote "Overall, I find the 3D image outstanding with considerably more brightness and pop than the motion picture theater 3D movie experience."

So no, you do not need a movie theatre sized screen to enjoy the 3D as this tv is only 50 inches. Do some research before spouting out nonsense.
And yes some movies have 3D added later which can be gimmicky, but I saw saw How To Train Your Dragon in 3D and the 3D was absolutely amazing and added to the experience in a big way, especially the 3D flying scenes.
As 3D becomes more popular (it already has, I saw Avatar, Alice in Wonderland and HTTYD all within a month) there will be more competition to create better and better 3D effects.
Also, I know sony plans on doing 3D gaming with the ps3 which can add to gaming in a big way.

It seems a lot of people are mad about 3D and I dont understand why. If you like 2D, watch 2D and be quiet. All 3D blurays will play the 2D version on a regular 2d screen, so why all the hate? If you want it buy it, if not you can enjoy everything in 2D and don't have to be bothered with 3D so why bother hating?
I think some people are just really mad because they recently bought new equipment and now 3D is out and they don't have the money to buy another new tv. Once someone buys a 2000-3000$ tv they most likely will not be buying one for another few years, which makes sense why people are so mad. They just bought a 2-3K TV before 3d was out and they know they will not be able to get a new tv for another few years, so they hate on 3D.
Why else would you hate on it? If you were happy with your 2D TV purchase and you dont like and don't want anything to do with 3D, why would you even care enough to write why you hate and dislike 3D on a forum? It makes no sense. 3D blu ray are BC with 2d players, so there is no reason for hate unless you're jealous.
Some people are frustrated, they got a new tv, 3d came out, and now they know they can't upgrade for a few yrs because most people are not gonna buy another 2-3K tv for a few yrs, so they hate. Sorry, but if you really were satsified with your 2D setup and considering 3D blu ray is completely backwards compatible and will play in your 2D setup there would be NO reason to even care about 3D, yet alone take the time to comment your hatred for it in an online forum.

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by Briscogun

I can not see a scenario right now that will ever make me buy anything in 3-D. My life is in 3-D, why the heck do I need movies that way? It's a gimmick: always has been, always will be. If we start to need to wear "accessories" in order to watch TV or movies, that has to be one of the seven signs of the impending apocolypse.

3-D only works on movie screens where your entire field of vision is taken up by the screen. When you have 3-D and "normal" eyesight in the same FOV, then it seriously compromises any "benefit" from the additional dimension.

If all the Avatards want to run out and purchase the new sets and players so they can get their Pandora swerve on, then go for it. But don't tell the rest of us that it's the "wave of the future" and we have to get on the bandwagon or get left behind. Trust me, of all the people I know in this world, not one of them is even remotely interested or intrigued by this. That's just me and my world, though. My little 2-D, blu-ray filled world...

Well, considering you bought into blu-ray.

Have you even seen the Panasonic 3D setup at Best Buy? I mean, gone in and given it a test run?

If not, you're talking out the side of your mouth.

[Briscogun]

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

You need to calm down a bit.

Didn't realize I was excited. Sorry...

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

Do some research before spouting out nonsense.

I just gave my opinion on what I thought of the whole 3-D thing. I never said anyone else's opinion of it was invalid or otherwise. I just asked those that do support it to stop acting like it's the only way to go or else. I mentioned Avatar fans, not to put them down, but as a reference since that is what started this whole craze in the first place.

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

It seems a lot of people are mad about 3D and I dont understand why. If you like 2D, watch 2D and be quiet.

Why would I be mad at technology? All I'm asking for from the 3-D supporters is the same courtesy you are requesting from me. Buy it, enjoy it, but don't ram it down my throat as if everyone who does not go get one of these is somehow missing the boat. I like the boat I'm in, thank-you-very-much. So if I like 2-D I have to sit here and be quiet about it, but the 3-D guy gets to say whatever he wants? Okay...

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

Some people are frustrated, they got a new tv, 3d came out, and now they know they can't upgrade for a few yrs because most people are not gonna buy another 2-3K tv for a few yrs, so they hate. Sorry, but if you really were satsified with your 2D setup and considering 3D blu ray is completely backwards compatible and will play in your 2D setup there would be NO reason to even care about 3D, yet alone take the time to comment your hatred for it in an online forum.

Uh, I took the time to comment because someone asked the question to start the thread. I didn't create a 3-D Bashing thread, just gave my 2 cents because someone else asked. I can assure you, I am not jealous of others that have this, I do not "hate" on the technology, I'm not frustrated, but the fact that you read all that as hatred might say more about you than me... But then again, that's just my opinion.

I think it's a silly gimmick. Maybe it will stay, maybe it won't. I'm old enough to remember 3-D fads that have come and gone over the years. Maybe this time it will stick. And for those that like it, or even love it, I'm very happy for them. But don't come after people who state an opinion, make references that I'm somehow less intelligent than you because I haven't done my "research", and that I must be a "hater", all because my opinion diffes from yours. I never said anything that begrudged others the ability to enjoy this new fad, I merely asked that others not do, well... kind of what you just did, to be honest.

And yes, I've seen the demos. They are neat, but I'm just not interested. Seals that bounce balls on their noses are neat, too. Doesn't mean I want one in my home, though.

[Briscogun]

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

You need to calm down a bit. I saw the Panasonic 3D demoed at best buy and I would say the 3D image quality was better than the theatres. Do you visit the HDGuru website? He reviewed the panny 3D tv and ALSO states the 3d quality is better than what he saw at the theatres. Here is the link to the review: http://hdguru.com/panasonic-tc-p50vt...t-review/1391/
Let me quote "Overall, I find the 3D image outstanding with considerably more brightness and pop than the motion picture theater 3D movie experience."

So no, you do not need a movie theatre sized screen to enjoy the 3D as this tv is only 50 inches. Do some research before spouting out nonsense.
And yes some movies have 3D added later which can be gimmicky, but I saw saw How To Train Your Dragon in 3D and the 3D was absolutely amazing and added to the experience in a big way, especially the 3D flying scenes.
As 3D becomes more popular (it already has, I saw Avatar, Alice in Wonderland and HTTYD all within a month) there will be more competition to create better and better 3D effects.
Also, I know sony plans on doing 3D gaming with the ps3 which can add to gaming in a big way.

It seems a lot of people are mad about 3D and I dont understand why. If you like 2D, watch 2D and be quiet. All 3D blurays will play the 2D version on a regular 2d screen, so why all the hate? If you want it buy it, if not you can enjoy everything in 2D and don't have to be bothered with 3D so why bother hating?
I think some people are just really mad because they recently bought new equipment and now 3D is out and they don't have the money to buy another new tv. Once someone buys a 2000-3000$ tv they most likely will not be buying one for another few years, which makes sense why people are so mad. They just bought a 2-3K TV before 3d was out and they know they will not be able to get a new tv for another few years, so they hate on 3D.
Why else would you hate on it? If you were happy with your 2D TV purchase and you dont like and don't want anything to do with 3D, why would you even care enough to write why you hate and dislike 3D on a forum? It makes no sense. 3D blu ray are BC with 2d players, so there is no reason for hate unless you're jealous.
Some people are frustrated, they got a new tv, 3d came out, and now they know they can't upgrade for a few yrs because most people are not gonna buy another 2-3K tv for a few yrs, so they hate. Sorry, but if you really were satsified with your 2D setup and considering 3D blu ray is completely backwards compatible and will play in your 2D setup there would be NO reason to even care about 3D, yet alone take the time to comment your hatred for it in an online forum.

Originally Posted by Vicon

Well, considering you bought into blu-ray.

Have you even seen the Panasonic 3D setup at Best Buy? I mean, gone in and given it a test run?

If not, you're talking out the side of your mouth.

Best Buy is the only place I've seen one (it's one of the only places I shop for blu, or most other tech-related things, to be honest). Have I sat there for an hour and gone over every detail? No. Have I been there for 10 or 15 minutes with the sales guy while he showed me what some of the capabilities are? Yes. It's neat, just not our cup of tea. My kids aren't even interested in it. My 12 year old doesn't even like 3-D movies because he doesn't like the glasses. I had to drag someone just to see Avatar! Go figure...

You know, blu was something different. I really sort of waited for the combination of titles available and pricing for the units to reach a point where it became feasible. That tipping point came for me late last year. But the technology was always superior, the picture and audio quality superb. I just don't feel that way about 3-D. None of my friends or co-workers are into the idea yet, either, but like i said, that's just my world.