Blu-Ray, but with older 5.1 Rotel receiver with HDMI 1.1 - Blu-ray Forum

johnnierocco · 01-25-2008, 10:35 PM

Im looking at receivers. I want to get something that is HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 even though I dont NEED it right now. I have and HK receiver that is old and I want to replace it. A friend has a Rotel 1057 in excellent shape that he will sell me for $400 or so. Its older with HDMI 1.1. inputs.

I have heard it run in 5.1 with an optical cable and its LOUD and clear. Its not even half way up and his room is easily twice the size of mine. I cant afford a NEW Rotel with 1.3 HDMI. Im worried if I got with a lesser receiver that is new even with all the goodies, sound quality would be lacking. I use my receivers for a lot of music and movies about 30% of time. The quality of these receivers seems to be very high.

Im looking at the Pioneer Elite 7.1 model thats about $700 at Best Buy and it seems to do everything. HDMI 1.3 etc, but I dont feel the sound or raw power is equal to that of the Rotel.

I guess the Pio beats the Rotel in everything except music to my ears. Is it best to always go with the newest in the world of electronics? Will I be missing out on a lot running 5.1 instead of lossless? I havent been able to actually hear Blu-Ray on true lossless audio. I dont have a receiver that can do it.

Thanks for any help. Im so confused, and I want to buy NOW.

crackinhedz · 01-25-2008, 11:14 PM

well, first id say if youre going to spend $400 on your friends rotel...you may just want an onkyo tx-sr605 hdmi 1.3 ($400) backed by manufacturer warranty.

second...did you listen to the Pioneer in store? do you trust it was even connected and set up correctly for excellent sound? Elite receivers are pretty darn good.

crackinhedz · 01-25-2008, 11:16 PM

to hold you over, give this a try...

Lossless audio from older receiver.

BeardedNinjaGuy · 01-26-2008, 09:16 AM

I have to echo this. If you are gonna spend 400 anyway, you will get a far better Reciever using that 400 on an Onkyo 605.

Clark Kent · 01-28-2008, 02:16 AM

With a HDMI 1.1 receiver you would need a BD player that internally decodes all the advanced audio soundtracks and pass it as PCM to the 1.1 receiver. There is no BD player like that on the market right now until the Denon comes out in a couple of months. But this is only necessary if you want to hear the full glory of lossless DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD soundtracks.

01-25-2008, 10:35 PM	#1
johnnierocco Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	Blu-Ray, but with older 5.1 Rotel receiver with HDMI 1.1 Im looking at receivers. I want to get something that is HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 even though I dont NEED it right now. I have and HK receiver that is old and I want to replace it. A friend has a Rotel 1057 in excellent shape that he will sell me for $400 or so. Its older with HDMI 1.1. inputs. I have heard it run in 5.1 with an optical cable and its LOUD and clear. Its not even half way up and his room is easily twice the size of mine. I cant afford a NEW Rotel with 1.3 HDMI. Im worried if I got with a lesser receiver that is new even with all the goodies, sound quality would be lacking. I use my receivers for a lot of music and movies about 30% of time. The quality of these receivers seems to be very high. Im looking at the Pioneer Elite 7.1 model thats about $700 at Best Buy and it seems to do everything. HDMI 1.3 etc, but I dont feel the sound or raw power is equal to that of the Rotel. I guess the Pio beats the Rotel in everything except music to my ears. Is it best to always go with the newest in the world of electronics? Will I be missing out on a lot running 5.1 instead of lossless? I havent been able to actually hear Blu-Ray on true lossless audio. I dont have a receiver that can do it. Thanks for any help. Im so confused, and I want to buy NOW.

01-28-2008, 02:16 AM	#5
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	With a HDMI 1.1 receiver you would need a BD player that internally decodes all the advanced audio soundtracks and pass it as PCM to the 1.1 receiver. There is no BD player like that on the market right now until the Denon comes out in a couple of months. But this is only necessary if you want to hear the full glory of lossless DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD soundtracks. Last edited by Clark Kent; 01-28-2008 at 02:22 AM.

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01-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#2
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	well, first id say if youre going to spend $400 on your friends rotel...you may just want an onkyo tx-sr605 hdmi 1.3 ($400) backed by manufacturer warranty. second...did you listen to the Pioneer in store? do you trust it was even connected and set up correctly for excellent sound? Elite receivers are pretty darn good.

01-25-2008, 11:16 PM	#3
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	to hold you over, give this a try... Lossless audio from older receiver.

01-26-2008, 09:16 AM	#4
BeardedNinjaGuy Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Columbia, Maryland Blu-ray collection:502	I have to echo this. If you are gonna spend 400 anyway, you will get a far better Reciever using that 400 on an Onkyo 605.

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