Per CNET: HD DVD Promotional Group's response to today

[radagast]

Originally Posted by blu-backer

Damn, that's one serious trump card that they're holding on to.

When Toshiba comes out with TL-51, boy they'll make all those other companies sorry. You just wait. It'll happen any day now. Really.

(what's the smiley for sarcasm?).

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Delta_FX

"at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

What a huge relief for them...

I wonder if BB is going to start a trade in policy for hd-dvd users to trade up to Blu-ray.

[darkpoet25]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

And how f**king dare anyone make fun of HD DVD after everything its been through! It lost WB, it went through player returns; It has two f**king studios, its company turned out to be a loser, a cheater (i.e. Paramount deal) and now it's going through a losing battle, all you people care about is movies and buying a non profile 2.0 player, it's INHUMAN!

What you don't realise is that HD DVD is making you all these cheap players and all you do is write a bunch of c*ap about it. It hasen't done well in two years, It has more players bought because all you people want is MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!! LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!

You're lucky Toshy made them for you b***ereds! LEAVE HD DVD ALONE!!!!! Please!

Microsoft talked about professionalism and if Toshiba were professionals, they would've pulled it off no matter what. Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly BASH something whos going through a bad time!? LEAVE HD DVD ALONE!!!!! Please!

[sounds of crying]

Leave HD DVD alone right, now! I mean it. Anyone who has a problem with it, you deal with me. Because It's not well right now [more sounds of crying].

Leave it alone.


Heres the link to anyone who wants to compare the CC vid with what I just typed.

Seeing this just made my morning. Thanks.

[Xerious]

i don't think i hate HD DVD because of it's crappiness... i think i hate HD DVD because it's incredibly stupid press releases that say the same old bullshit:

"the best value and quality for the consumer"
"the customer has chosen, it is a wonder why has the retail and entertainment sector ignored this"
"we have more studio support (overseas) than the BDA"
"HD DVD is a completed spec"
"only on HD DVD do we offer choices for the customer" (uh, what, between the A3, A30, A35, or xbox add on??)
"HD DVD will enlarge your penis by 2 inches"

it's embarassing... no wonder they're so quiet these days... too embarassed to show their faces.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by Xerious

"HD DVD will enlarge your penis by 2 inches"

Wow! For some reason now I want a HD DVD player (I kid, I kid).

[Slapper]

Whoever typed this response up should be fired.

"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

The "at least" in this paragraph makes HD DVDs position sound really weak. It leads the reader into thinking "at least we're not totally screwed"

It should have read:

"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

Including "at least" reveals that they know (and are admitting) that they are in a very bad position. Not good PR to reveal weakness.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

Wow! For some reason now I want a HD DVD player (I kid, I kid).

if anyone believes anything the hd dvd promo group has to say, you might as well believe that one too... i know for a fact that hot chicks dig guys who buy blu.

[ikbradley]

Originally Posted by cartman781

Man Toshiba has to have the worst PR department in history. Their fans can spin better than this.

It must have been nails on a chalkboard to put in the words "at least".

Seriously, when you are forced to say the phrase that is synonymous with sloppy seconds, you know you have a problem.

[The Don]

Toshiba

"If we just ignore the fact that we have lost, maybe we can just stick around and slowly TAKE OVERR!"..


BDA

[Flea77]

Originally Posted by Xerious

"HD DVD will enlarge your penis by 2 inches"

This might be the only way they can survive!

Allan

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by Flea77

This might be the only way they can survive!

Allan

remember, porn is hd dud exclusive (or so they say)... perfect pr for the demographic

[PeteS]

Originally Posted by Slapper

Including "at least" reveals that they know (and are admitting) that they are in a very bad position. Not good PR to reveal weakness.

Which makes me think 'at least' their PR person has either given up or is experiencing despair; 'at most' the whole company has really given up. If Toshiba really are just liquidating stock prior to announcing combo-players, that's a pretty nasty thing to do to their customers; but I tend to think that's where they're headed.

If Toshiba are in a deal with M$ to prolong the war as long as possible for the sake of the download market, that's an even nastier thing to do to their customers.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by Xerious

if anyone believes anything the hd dvd promo group has to say, you might as well believe that one too... i know for a fact that hot chicks dig guys who buy blu.

I know. I remember being in this thread posted by the blu suicide girl, Mysticsuicide saying that dorks buy HD DVD while cool pros. bought BD when she was at her local BB. Oh, and heres a picture to describe them:

"What are you talking about Mystic? We love HD DVD and we're not nerds!"

[bhampton]

Attention Toshiba HD DVD Press Group...

You still need to respond to Hi-Fi Klubben and Tripictures. I've made this template for you..

We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see *Insert latest company to dump HD DVD here* make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail.

Note,.. That last sentence may need to be updated soon,.. I'll keep you posted.

-Brian

[PA_Kid]

Originally Posted by Slapper

Whoever typed this response up should be fired.

Including "at least" reveals that they know (and are admitting) that they are in a very bad position. Not good PR to reveal weakness.

Nah, it should have read:

"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, their decision to continue to carry both formats is further indication that there is a continued consumer demand for HD-DVD and that consumers are still in the process of deciding which format will become the dominant force in high definition media."

Even that is kinda weak, but at this point even playing towards a tie is a win for HD-DVD.

[bangy38]

Here's a new quote that they sent to Video Business. This one's a bit more interesting...

"It’s unfortunate to see a valued partner like Best Buy make the decision to push consumers toward Blu-ray," Jodi Sally, marketing VP for HD DVD camp leader Toshiba, said in an email. "We’re also aware of the NetFlix decision to only stock Blu-ray movies for rental going forward. Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players."

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6531274.html

[mattym]

Originally Posted by Jodi Whatsherface

Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players

what the hell does that mean?? They gonna knock another 50 off the damned things??

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by bangy38

Here's a new quote that they sent to Video Business. This one's a bit more interesting...

"It’s unfortunate to see a valued partner like Best Buy make the decision to push consumers toward Blu-ray," Jodi Sally, marketing VP for HD DVD camp leader Toshiba, said in an email. "We’re also aware of the NetFlix decision to only stock Blu-ray movies for rental going forward. Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players."

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6531274.html

what next, $50 players? give. it. up.

[PaulGo]

From EngadgetHD:

HD DVD camp issues sad little response to Netflix, Best Buy snubs

Out of the many jobs in today's multi-billion dollar consumer electronics industry, the one we'd probably want least right now is writer of press releases for the HD DVD Promotional Group. After each major defection, these poor folks have to whip up a positive-sounding response to what everyone knows is very bad news -- but after yesterday's one-two punches by Netflix and Best Buy, even these paid cheerleaders are having trouble finding the right spin. Here's what they had to say, as reported by CNET:

"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

Doesn't sound like there's too much fight left there, does it? If the best you can do to support your dying format is to rehash the same canned argument and celebrate your remaining shelf space, well, there would seem to be a bigger problem than you're willing to admit. At this point, we're just curious to see how it will all end: after investing so much time, energy, money, and vitriol on this bitter format war, how does Toshiba move forward in a world almost completely dominated by its rival in blue?

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/12...best-buy-snub/

[SBrooks1]

HD DVD just keeps gettin' beat down....