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Has anyone else heard of this? I got a friend down in Florida who has bought and used this on two cars now, and he swears by it.
http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com Is the website he used, and he has converted a 98 camry and old Ford F150. I find it interesting that there is a guy in Estes Park advertising via craigs list to perform this for people as well, so I am looking to see if anyone on this board has tried this or know anyone who has? Looks a little too good to be true, but now that I know people who have done it, I am open to the possibility. Hell I know we got people in Colorado on this board, was wondering if any of them would call the Estes park guy to see if it is real, and what he charges. |
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I have looked at their website.
1. I already knew you can catalyze your fuel with hydrogen, so the claim of 40% better economy sounds right. You can do it with hydrogen, LPG, propane, Urea and probably even CNG. 2. yes it's possible to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water. So it makes sense. |
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Ethanol is the worst idea ever...pushing food prices up, causing shortages, so ethanol will go up in price too. It's a lose/lose situation. Compressed Natural Gas makes a much better conversion, we actually have enough of that in the world to fuel our vehicles.
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Would it be better to drop in a Lithium ion battery into the trunk? I think it cost about the same to convert but not sure. I know changing the battery is $10,00 or something like that a year. I know with ethanol you can take used veg oil from BK or MC. D's and filter that and use it. If I cant do any of that then I will forget the mustang I like and go for a hybrid.
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oooh i want smell onion rings from BK or Fries from MCD out of exhaust and make american hungry and FAT! ![]() |
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I worked at BK for 4 months and there food made me sick. We used to drain the oil once a month in the fry vats. I could have used that oil for ethanol. the exaust smell depends on what oil the vats where in. onion rings and fries had there own oil vats.
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I got sick when I saw the drinking water in home depot for $5.00. It was filtered from stagnant ponds. I know there are companies taking saltwater and converting it to fresh.
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There are companies taking sewer water and converting it to fresh.
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not in the US. You know all that water we spend billions to filter? yep that goes into the ocean. its illegal to use processed waste water for drinking in the US. |
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Feb 2008
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Ethanol/E85 has nothing to do with using vegetable oil/biodiesel. You must have a DIESEL engine to use vegetable oil. Most new cars can run on E85 now, but it is a waste of money. E85 is 10-15% cheaper than regular here in michigan, but gets 30% WORSE mileage. Doing the math on a car that averages 24mpg, regular gas costs 16 cents per mile to use, E85 costs 21 cents per mile.
So unless the price of E85 comes down to more than 30% cheaper than regular it is a waste of money. And that is not even counting the fact that all the demand for corn for fuel has jacked up the corn prices for everthing from livestock feed to food. Who the hell decided that corn was a good product to use for fuel anyways. Sugar cane(like used in south america) takes WAY less energy(fuel) to make it, making it a much better choice. Last edited by olds403; 06-06-2008 at 12:51 PM. |
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my brother in Michigan has a a TDI Jetta, and he is also a Chemist, and uses mineral oil and something else, and still gets 46-47 MPG, compared to the 49-51 MPG he gets on normal diesel..... and his Jetta is at 240K miles right now (their second one....) We're getting my wife a new one for her next car.... $4.75/Gallon.... WHO CARES.... at 50 MPG, that's great!
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Yes but it still occupies farmland, which means corn/wheat isn't growing as much, which means price of both skyrockets, and shortages happen. It's already happening with wheat right now. Everyone's growing corn. Farm-grown fuels is a bad idea.
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