Convert your car into a water hybrid? - Blu-ray Forum

olds403 · 06-06-2008, 12:48 PM

Ethanol/E85 has nothing to do with using vegetable oil/biodiesel. You must have a DIESEL engine to use vegetable oil. Most new cars can run on E85 now, but it is a waste of money. E85 is 10-15% cheaper than regular here in michigan, but gets 30% WORSE mileage. Doing the math on a car that averages 24mpg, regular gas costs 16 cents per mile to use, E85 costs 21 cents per mile.

So unless the price of E85 comes down to more than 30% cheaper than regular it is a waste of money. And that is not even counting the fact that all the demand for corn for fuel has jacked up the corn prices for everthing from livestock feed to food. Who the hell decided that corn was a good product to use for fuel anyways. Sugar cane(like used in south america) takes WAY less energy(fuel) to make it, making it a much better choice.

Beta Man · 06-06-2008, 12:54 PM

my brother in Michigan has a a TDI Jetta, and he is also a Chemist, and uses mineral oil and something else, and still gets 46-47 MPG, compared to the 49-51 MPG he gets on normal diesel..... and his Jetta is at 240K miles right now (their second one....) We're getting my wife a new one for her next car.... $4.75/Gallon.... WHO CARES.... at 50 MPG, that's great!

Chevypower · 06-06-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by olds403

Sugar cane(like used in south america) takes WAY less energy(fuel) to make it, making it a much better choice.

Yes but it still occupies farmland, which means corn/wheat isn't growing as much, which means price of both skyrockets, and shortages happen. It's already happening with wheat right now. Everyone's growing corn. Farm-grown fuels is a bad idea.

inuyashalover21 · 06-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Guess I am better off buying a hybrid. Gas is almost $4.00 here in NJ. I am going to florida to visit my g/f's parents. Gas there is $4.00 and up.

Beta Man · 06-06-2008, 03:53 PM

I rent a car for long road-trips.... price of the rental pays for itself in the gas mileage I save, I don't put added miles on my jeep, plus I get the dirt cheap insurance so I can beat the hell out of it.

SeahawxBlu · 06-06-2008, 11:36 PM

If there's anyone REALLY interested in this technology, check out this website: http://www.hytechapps.com/ Dennis Klein, who is the brains of the outfit, has been featured on CNN and Fox News.

Sometime in 2009, this this water hybrid technology will be available. Hopefully, it won't be necessary to travel to Tampa to have it installed.

Check out the videos on the site. They are quite interesting.

06-06-2008, 12:48 PM	#1
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	Ethanol/E85 has nothing to do with using vegetable oil/biodiesel. You must have a DIESEL engine to use vegetable oil. Most new cars can run on E85 now, but it is a waste of money. E85 is 10-15% cheaper than regular here in michigan, but gets 30% WORSE mileage. Doing the math on a car that averages 24mpg, regular gas costs 16 cents per mile to use, E85 costs 21 cents per mile. So unless the price of E85 comes down to more than 30% cheaper than regular it is a waste of money. And that is not even counting the fact that all the demand for corn for fuel has jacked up the corn prices for everthing from livestock feed to food. Who the hell decided that corn was a good product to use for fuel anyways. Sugar cane(like used in south america) takes WAY less energy(fuel) to make it, making it a much better choice. Last edited by olds403; 06-06-2008 at 12:51 PM.

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06-06-2008, 12:54 PM	#2
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	my brother in Michigan has a a TDI Jetta, and he is also a Chemist, and uses mineral oil and something else, and still gets 46-47 MPG, compared to the 49-51 MPG he gets on normal diesel..... and his Jetta is at 240K miles right now (their second one....) We're getting my wife a new one for her next car.... $4.75/Gallon.... WHO CARES.... at 50 MPG, that's great!

06-06-2008, 03:38 PM	#4
inuyashalover21 Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	Guess I am better off buying a hybrid. Gas is almost $4.00 here in NJ. I am going to florida to visit my g/f's parents. Gas there is $4.00 and up.

06-06-2008, 03:53 PM	#5
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I rent a car for long road-trips.... price of the rental pays for itself in the gas mileage I save, I don't put added miles on my jeep, plus I get the dirt cheap insurance so I can beat the hell out of it.

06-06-2008, 11:36 PM	#6
SeahawxBlu Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Redmond, WA	If there's anyone REALLY interested in this technology, check out this website: http://www.hytechapps.com/ Dennis Klein, who is the brains of the outfit, has been featured on CNN and Fox News. Sometime in 2009, this this water hybrid technology will be available. Hopefully, it won't be necessary to travel to Tampa to have it installed. Check out the videos on the site. They are quite interesting.

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