Samsung Quits 4K Blu-ray Player Market

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by halloween5309

I been considering a samsung bluray player that does 4k upscale, I dont think it's a current model

I wouldn’t bother, unless you get it for a tenner! Seriously there are better players out there. I think it’s bad that Samsung are doing this but to be honest they’ve caused their own downfall. Which is a shame.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by REPLAY

Their players were always junk. Would never buy one.

I bought the first 4k one released in the U.K. aNd it was shite!

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by 1924

DVD’s are like two bucks less than the Blu rays which include the DVD with them

I know, they are $19.99 to $24.99 on average brand new @ Canadian Wall Mart discount chain stores ... family oriented value shopping. ...Almost as good as Costco and about the same as Best Buy. Amazon Canada is in that ball park too, from Jeff Bezos the most greedy guy on the planet.

In the USA, how much is a brand new DVD release title (blockbuster) on average?

Our 4K Blus are $29.99 to $34.99 on average. For lesser 4K titles ... $24.99
Blu-rays in Canada are like our cell phone plans, our TV channel packages, our Internet rates, our car insurances (British Colombia), our legal marijuana stores, our gasoline prices, our credit cards interests, our car repair parts, ...

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

I briefly owned a Samsung UHD player, its HDR looked dimmer than a DVD player. Paid $500, couldn’t even give it away for free to friends/family. It’s in a landfill somewhere. Should be illegal to sell a product like that.

I can’t believe I’m writing this but I agree with you that the HDR was useless. I returned mine to the store I purchased it from aNd got my money back. I was so disappointed with it and it put me off 4k till I got a Panasonic (can’t remember which). Returned that aswell!

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Katatonia

I've never had good luck with Samsung products. Either they had various "issues" or they simply died way too prematurely. I pretty much gave them three tries, and they struck out three times. So needless to say, I probably wouldn't even consider buying another Samsung product.

I’ve had two other Samsung tv’s and they were brilliant. My current 4k Samsung is good and I’m happy with it even though the hdmi socket is frigged. The backlight can be a bit iffy sometimes aswell! I’m going for another make next time.

[Hardback247]

Unfortunately, I just got both a Samsung 4K TV and Samsung 4K Blu-Ray player only a year ago, and I can't afford to get a new one of each from another company, just for the sake of having Dolby Vision.

[halloween5309]

thank goodness magnavox still makes a uhd player for under $100

[LordoftheRings]

Yamaha why they don't make 4K players?
...Marantz, Denon, Lexicon, NAD, McIntosh, Ayre, Integra, Harman Kardon, JVC, Esoteric, Luxman?

It is humor. There is no market, no money there to be made.
Today it's Tidal, Qobuz, MQA, Hulu, Vudu, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, You Tube Movie Channel, HBO, Cineramax, ...all in 4K Dolby Cinema IMAX, picture and sound streaming and downloading.

[Fendergopher]

Originally Posted by halloween5309

thank goodness magnavox still makes a uhd player for under $100

Whenever I hear the name Magnavox I can only think of their Odyssey consoles from the 70's.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

They are stopping production of 1080p players as well.

I have seen no confirmation of this; Samsung still sells blu-ray players on their website. Walmart carries six models and Best Buy carries two.

Their blu-ray players appear to all be junk, anyways, so let them take them all off of the market, too, but I would like to see this speculation confirmed one way or the other.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have seen no confirmation of this; Samsung still sells blu-ray players on their website. Walmart carries six models and Best Buy carries two.

Their blu-ray players appear to all be junk, anyways, so let them take them all off of the market, too, but I would like to see this speculation confirmed one way or the other.

https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-to...s-report-says/

"Samsung has elaborated on an earlier report that it was no longer making 4K players and has confirmed that it will also halt production on new 1080p models."

"Samsung will no longer introduce new Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray player models in the US market," a Samsung spokesperson told CNET.

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

I briefly owned a Samsung UHD player, its HDR looked dimmer than a DVD player. Paid $500, couldn’t even give it away for free to friends/family. It’s in a landfill somewhere. Should be illegal to sell a product like that.

Virtually every report I've seen about this gets debunked if you change the settings between the player and TV.

They are notorious for getting the TV on an auto setting that ruins everything. It is unfortunate, but easily fixed with knowledge and effort.

I did have skip/freeze issues that on the first player they brought to market though. Returned to the store.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by film11

5.3% market share is a little momentum? That's lower than 3D had at its height. (And in an unrelated note: saw Alita in IMAX 3D. A must!)

this varies weekly depending on what's released in 4k that week. if it's there a big movie, it can be in the lower to mid teens.

Originally Posted by Zoland2020

Samsung shot themselves in the foot to begin with when they've said they're not supporting Dolby Vision but instead support a HDR format that will likely be a failure in a couple of years from now. I'm not surprised by a bit Samsung is giving up on 4K Blu-ray players.

Originally Posted by danny24

Their best disc players imo were the 4K UHD K8500 model (it's a classic, 1st UHD player) and the Blu-ray/HD-DVD player the BD-UP5000 (great player, classic format war player, good build quality).

Eh, I've owned the K8500, Panny 820, and Oppo 203. The Samsung was trash Imo. the hdr was supposedly way off and the menus were a pain cause a lot of them couldn't be adjusted during playback (like resolution, etc)

Originally Posted by Zoland2020

Samsung shot themselves in the foot to begin with when they've said they're not supporting Dolby Vision but instead support a HDR format that will likely be a failure in a couple of years from now. I'm not surprised by a bit Samsung is giving up on 4K Blu-ray players.

Originally Posted by David M

Given that they’d be the only UHD BD player brand not supporting Dolby Vision, I’m not too surprised. It would be very hard for Samsung to stay competitive to high end buyers when their competitors support Dolby Vision. Panasonic players support all three formats (on their high end models at least).

Is Samsung BD players lacking DV really the main culprit? im sure it played a role, but think of it like this. Samsung sells the most tv units in the entire world, and probably sells the most 4k tvs worldwide if you include their lower 4k lineups too. So, Samsung 4k tv owners do not require a DV 4k BD player, so they should be buying the Samsung 4k blu ray players (and thus keeping those 4k BD sales afloat), but most of them dont, probably because Samsung BD players are not appealing to them for whatever reason. So the biggest group of 4k tv owners are NOT buying samsung players but instead opt for other brands, whether it be Panasonic, Oppo, LG, Sony.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by ray0414

this varies weekly depending on what's released in 4k that week. if it's there a big movie, it can be in the lower to mid teens.

Eh, I've owned the K8500, Panny 820, and Oppo 203. The Samsung was trash Imo. the hdr was supposedly way off and the menus were a pain cause a lot of them couldn't be adjusted during playback (like resolution, etc)

Is Samsung BD players lacking DV really the main culprit? im sure it played a role, but think of it like this. Samsung sells the most tv units in the entire world, and probably sells the most 4k tvs worldwide if you include their lower 4k lineups too. So, Samsung 4k tv owners do not require a DV 4k BD player, so they should be buying the Samsung 4k blu ray players (and thus keeping those 4k BD sales afloat), but most of them dont, probably because Samsung BD players are not appealing to them for whatever reason. So the biggest group of 4k tv owners are NOT buying samsung players but instead opt for other brands, whether it be Panasonic, Oppo, LG, Sony.

Samsung has the largest global market share, but that market is a crowded one and they only have 20% of it, which means that 80% belongs to the rest.

https://blog.technavio.com/blog/larg...y-market-share

[StingingVelvet]

As one company chooses to prioritize other things it makes for more opportunity for others. One or two companies bowing out doesn't mean they all will anytime soon. Samsung sell the most TVs but don't sell OLEDs, yet no one says OLEDs are dying.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by 78deluxe

Virtually every report I've seen about this gets debunked if you change the settings between the player and TV.

They are notorious for getting the TV on an auto setting that ruins everything. It is unfortunate, but easily fixed with knowledge and effort.

I did have skip/freeze issues that on the first player they brought to market though. Returned to the store.

I’ve been doing this for decades, but I’m sure I messed up a basic setting

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-to...s-report-says/

"Samsung has elaborated on an earlier report that it was no longer making 4K players and has confirmed that it will also halt production on new 1080p models."

"Samsung will no longer introduce new Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray player models in the US market," a Samsung spokesperson told CNET.

Good riddance is all the feeling that I can muster for their departure. I won't miss them a bit.

[VirtuaBranson]

Should I be worried about this? Im getting mixed signals.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by VirtuaBranson

Should I be worried about this? Im getting mixed signals.

Don't worry about anything unless it helps.

[VirtuaBranson]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Yes and no.

Damn you.