Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Chordata

Totally agree. Hayden is paintful in AOTC.

"I can sense everything going on in that room."

"It's worse. He's overly critical..."

"Excuse ME, your highness..."

Yeah the lines suck, but the delivery is just awful. I shouldn't be surprised, though, since he's playing an older Jake Lloyd.

Honestly I think part of it is he's still a slave kid adjusting to being part of a much bigger universe than he was used to as a child and also adjusting to being a teenager and the Chosen One. I remember reading the Episode II novel and getting a much better feel for the characters from that than I did from the movie.

[El_Jay]

Oh by the way, the credit for worst actor/line delivery in the whole Star Wars saga comes not from Hayden Christensen... but from that one pilot in Empire who goes "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

I literally LOL and rewind that scene every time because of just how badly he delivers it. It's funny how much suck can be wrung out of one simple little line.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Chordata

Totally agree. Hayden is paintful in AOTC.

"I can sense everything going on in that room."

"It's worse. He's overly critical..."

"Excuse ME, your highness..."

Yeah the lines suck, but the delivery is just awful. I shouldn't be surprised, though, since he's playing an older Jake Lloyd.

WOW! I'm actually shocked that nobody has said that Hayden was deliberately acting poorly to create continuity with the Jake Lloyd version!

Get on it apologists, there's some free ammunition!

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

I honestly think if Lucas had just kept the basic story arc of the PT (even though TPM to me is kind of unnecessary to the whole saga and could be skipped), but hired a director like, say even JJ Abrams, nobody TOO incredible, had David Mamet or Paul Haggis punch up the script, and hired someone with the talent of like, Ben Foster for the Anakin role, the whole PT could have been much, much better. Oh, and he would need to scrap most of the CG and totally remove the Jar Jar character.

I think you can go one step further - I think if Lucas hadn't even kept the basic story arc of the PT but instead was completely uninvolved in any part of the process the entire thing would've been much better. Honestly, a full third of the arc involved watching Jake Lloyd and a Rasta Alien wander about and spew ridiculous shit. The remaining portion was watching Hayden furrow his brow and occupy space. Short of hiring someone like Bay or Boll to direct all of them, I can't think of how he could've made them any worse, really.

[Agent Cooper]

Regarding Palpatine - he is human, not some shapeshifting race. It's my understanding that 'Palpy' is his cover (including the physical appearance) and 'Sidious' is his true look - dark side powers... When he takes over control of the republic, he has no need for a disguise anymore and as a bonus, he can use his deformed look as proof of the Jedi plot of assasinating him and overtaking control, gaining sympathy and approval from the senate to destroy the Jedi.

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

Maybe you can answer me this inconsistency: In ALIEN a drop of acid-blood eats through several decks of the Nostromo - in the stupid sequel the creatures blood splatters left and right and has little to no effect...

Did you miss the numerous burned holes in the floor panels of the colony? The drops falling next to Biship eating through the floor of the Sulaco? Besides, Drake, Vasquez, Hicks and Hudson are wounded by splattered alien acid. Are you sure you are talking about Aliens?

[octagon]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Oh by the way, the credit for worst actor/line delivery in the whole Star Wars saga comes not from Hayden Christensen... but from that one pilot in Empire who goes "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

I literally LOL and rewind that scene every time because of just how badly he delivers it. It's funny how much suck can be wrung out of one simple little line.

The hand-clap 'To your ships' guy was pretty cringeworthy too.

But I can't see anything anywhere at any time in any way beating 'Boba Fett? Where???'.

That just sucked soooooooo hard on soooooooooo many levels...

edit: yes, Ackbar definitely has a place at this table

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Oh by the way, the credit for worst actor/line delivery in the whole Star Wars saga comes not from Hayden Christensen... but from that one pilot in Empire who goes "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

I literally LOL and rewind that scene every time because of just how badly he delivers it. It's funny how much suck can be wrung out of one simple little line.

I dunno, I still give that award to Admiral Ackbar's "It's a Trap!"

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Oh by the way, the credit for worst actor/line delivery in the whole Star Wars saga comes not from Hayden Christensen... but from that one pilot in Empire who goes "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

I literally LOL and rewind that scene every time because of just how badly he delivers it. It's funny how much suck can be wrung out of one simple little line.

It sounds like he's reading it from a que card, and not sure if he said it right.

I also think this one ranks up there too: "Come on, let's go and play ball. Keep racing, Ani, you're gonna be bug squash."
At least that one comes from a little kid, so he's got some kind of excuse.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Honestly I think part of it is he's still a slave kid adjusting to being part of a much bigger universe than he was used to as a child and also adjusting to being a teenager and the Chosen One. I remember reading the Episode II novel and getting a much better feel for the characters from that than I did from the movie.

That's an excellent way to look at it and much less jaded than my impression.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

WOW! I'm actually shocked that nobody has said that Hayden was deliberately acting poorly to create continuity with the Jake Lloyd version!

It's the only obvious excuse I can think of. lol

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

I think you can go one step further - I think if Lucas hadn't even kept the basic story arc of the PT but instead was completely uninvolved in any part of the process the entire thing would've been much better. Honestly, a full third of the arc involved watching Jake Lloyd and a Rasta Alien wander about and spew ridiculous shit. The remaining portion was watching Hayden furrow his brow and occupy space. Short of hiring someone like Bay or Boll to direct all of them, I can't think of how he could've made them any worse, really.

Wow, you're bashing the prequels again. How many thousands of variations of this post must we suffer through mods? We get it, you HATE them.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Wow, you're bashing the prequels again. How many thousands of variations of this post must we suffer through mods? We get it, you HATE them.

Hahaha, how is someone hating them any different then someone endlessly posting about loving them? It's my honest opinion.

Sorry I didn't they were very good, I'm not going to pretend I thought they were decent for your benefit. I'm not offended by you liking them, I couldn't care less.

I've posted in this thread, what, 70 some odd times in the last year and handful of months? You've posted what, well over 300? Get over yourself.

[Agent Cooper]

Worst line delivery... well, whenever Padme or Jar Jar calls Anakin by saying 'Ani', I can't help thinking to myself 'why the hell do they call him Annie?

[octagon]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Wow, you're bashing the prequels again. How many thousands of variations of this post must we suffer through mods? We get it, you HATE them.

None.

User Control Panel > Edit Ignore List > Enter User Name > Click 'Okay'

Easy-peasy-exqueasy-measy

[Show spoiler](I just made that up!)

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I like the PT, if for no other reason than the eye and ear candy, it's not like listening to a beautiful piece of classical music, it's more like riding a roller coaster. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!, but I still find most of Stinky's posts to be highly hilarious, and entertaining.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

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Ohhhh man, this one takes the cake!!!!

"ROFL" all you want, it's true.

How much bass was there from the sabers in the OT?

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Oh by the way, the credit for worst actor/line delivery in the whole Star Wars saga comes not from Hayden Christensen... but from that one pilot in Empire who goes "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?"

I literally LOL and rewind that scene every time because of just how badly he delivers it. It's funny how much suck can be wrung out of one simple little line.

It does rank right up there with: "Pardon me for asking, sir, but what good are snub fighters going to be against that?"

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Hahaha, how is someone hating them any different then someone endlessly posting about loving them? It's my honest opinion.

Sorry I didn't they were very good, I'm not going to pretend I thought they were decent for your benefit. I'm not offended by you liking them, I couldn't care less.

I've posted in this thread, what, 70 some odd times in the last year and handful of months? You've posted what, well over 300? Get over yourself.

Come on Stinky, you should know by now that loving the prequels unconditionally makes you a "true fan" and makes your opinion weighty and valuable, while disliking them for valid reasons makes you a "hater" who just hates for the sake of hating. I thought that much would be clear by now.

Try and keep up.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

I've posted in this thread, what, 70 some odd times in the last year and handful of months? You've posted what, well over 300? Get over yourself.

Seems my posts have had at least some variety ...

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

I've read many people saying this, but there isn't any continuity error. Every other time we see the door (from the inside), we don't see the whole thing. Watch when Luke shows up. I'm not really a fan of the zooming in from the outside either, though. It doesn't look bad, I just don't think it was needed.

But what the hell is the point in the first place? Why do that completely useless change and then ignore errors such as there already being blaster marks behind the stormtrooper on cloud city?

For this being the 'definitive' Star Wars collection its unforgivable!