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If the notion that that the current Blu-ray isn't definitive irks you so much, then ignore this new German release.
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ETA: I have to admit, I find it very difficult to believe that Hitchcock would be so obsessive as to save that extra footage, but not actually save a print of the uncut film anywhere. Last edited by thatguamguy; 11-13-2018 at 11:53 PM. |
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That is inaccurate. The bloody hands shot where Norman enters the bathroom has been replaced (to avoid Norman suddenly appearing in the bathroom) with footage of Norman entering from a different angle.
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1921 Or compare 2:03 and 2:45 here. It's likely the same take of the same shot, but it's clearly not the same footage. https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1921 |
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Whoops, the second link was supposed to be to that, not a dupe. Again, compare 2:03 to 2:45, there is footage in the "1966" version which is not in the "1960" version. The close-up of Norman's face ends in the "1960" version before the bathroom is even visible behind him. In the 1966 version, the camera stops moving and Norman walks out of the shot, which is nowhere to be found in the 1960 version, because they already had a shot of Norman entering the bathroom.
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If these cuts came post-theatrical release, it seems like the most reasonable guess for when they would occur would be when they switched ratings -- the Hays Code was getting more lax over the course of the 1960s, so why would they force cuts on something they had approved? Whereas the nascent MPAA might have cracked down a bit. So depending on when the re-release to which the trailer refers happened, it might have been pre-cuts. (Mind you, that is assuming that we can take Salesman Hitchcock at his word, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt.) Of course, it would help to know *when* the cuts were supposed to have been made... Last edited by thatguamguy; 11-14-2018 at 03:43 AM. |
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I found some interesting information... according to the American Film Institute:
[Show spoiler] So it seems like the "European" cut was made after the PCA / Hays people made some cuts, but before the three specific cuts which were made for the National Catholic Legion of Decency. If the Legion had given the film a "C", millions of members would have (theoretically) boycotted the film, so cuts were made to get the lighter B rating. As much as I hate to agree with Bates Motel, that seems like pretty good specific evidence that the cuts pre-date the initial US theatrical release. https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/moviedetails/53260 Last edited by thatguamguy; 11-14-2018 at 11:04 AM. |
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#1214 |
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Will the extended cut ever be released on home video in the US?
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I'd be happy with a standalone release in Germany. That box set is too rich for my blood. I'm willing to believe this is Hitchcock's preferred cut, but that's not enough to make me double dip on the sequels I do like and pay for the ones I don't.
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